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Really happy the Griz did not get the Thomas's
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I don't think weed has any long term side effects.
I only smoked weed for about twenty-five years and I don't think anyone would think it permanently harmed me much? Right! Temporarily maybe, but I'm hopeful that in 10-20 more years I'll get a little closer to normal again.
I only smoked weed for about twenty-five years and I don't think anyone would think it permanently harmed me much? Right! Temporarily maybe, but I'm hopeful that in 10-20 more years I'll get a little closer to normal again.
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getgrizzy said:
It may be true that there is no recorded medical evidence that MJ has ever caused an overdose, it doesn't mean it is harmless. The results of a study attempting to gauge drug "harm" is posted about 2/3 the way down the following page:
http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/1003" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I can say I have personally seen some pretty stupid behavior by people intoxicated on cannibis and it is impossible for me to believe that smoking pot has never caused any fatalities, at least indirectly. The publishers of the study don't seem to think it is harmless either. All that said, we would be better off legalizing it and let the stoners do their thing. Save all of the money we spend prosecuting people mostly doing damage to themselves.
...getgrizzy said:
Dr. Robert L. DuPont
Partner, Bensinger DuPont and Associates
Ex-President, Institute for Behavior and Health
Ex-Director, National Institute on Drug Abuse
Marijuana is already a significant causal factor in highway crashes, injuries and deaths. In a recent national roadside survey of weekend nighttime drivers, 8.6 percent tested positive for marijuana or its metabolites, nearly four times the percentage of drivers with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of .08 g/dL (2.2 percent).
In another study of seriously injured drivers admitted to a Level-1 shock trauma center, more than a quarter of all drivers (26.9 percent) tested positive for marijuana. In a study of fatally injured drivers in Washington State, 12.7 percent tested positive for marijuana. These studies demonstrate the high prevalence of drugged driving as a result of marijuana use.
getgrizzy said:
Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous.
Nope, GG. Other studies, inlcuding ones after the 2006 study you cited, say otherwise:
"In 2006, many of us in medicine were shocked when a review of research to date did not show an increase in lung cancer related to marijuana use. There was even a suggestion that marijuana had a protective effect against lung cancer. Recent studies, in contrast, do appear to link smoking marijuana with lung cancer.
One study demonstrated a doubling in lung cancer for male marijuana smokers who also used tobacco. Another study found that long-term use of marijuana increased the risk of lung cancer in young adults (55 and under), with the risk increasing in proportion to the amount of marijuana smoked.
Bottom line: Though marijuana most likely pales in cancer risk when compared to cigarette smoking, it's better to play it safe. There are reasons in addition to lung cancer risk (and the fact that it is illegal) to avoid marijuana. Marijuana likely increases the risk of testicular cancer, prostate cancer, cervical cancer, a type of brain tumor, and the risk of leukemia in the offspring of women who use it during pregnancy."
http://lungcancer.about.com/od/causesoflungcance1/f/marijuana.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"In 2006, many of us in medicine were shocked when a review of research to date did not show an increase in lung cancer related to marijuana use. There was even a suggestion that marijuana had a protective effect against lung cancer. Recent studies, in contrast, do appear to link smoking marijuana with lung cancer.
One study demonstrated a doubling in lung cancer for male marijuana smokers who also used tobacco. Another study found that long-term use of marijuana increased the risk of lung cancer in young adults (55 and under), with the risk increasing in proportion to the amount of marijuana smoked.
Bottom line: Though marijuana most likely pales in cancer risk when compared to cigarette smoking, it's better to play it safe. There are reasons in addition to lung cancer risk (and the fact that it is illegal) to avoid marijuana. Marijuana likely increases the risk of testicular cancer, prostate cancer, cervical cancer, a type of brain tumor, and the risk of leukemia in the offspring of women who use it during pregnancy."
http://lungcancer.about.com/od/causesoflungcance1/f/marijuana.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Both Thomas and the prosecutors are stuck with some tough MT laws on drugs, including marijuana. Penalty is one year to life in prison. See below, including the relatively recent Missoulian article on the subject (which discusses some quasi-similar issues to Thomas'). Unless the charges can be reduced from felonies (and I don't see an obvious place to reduce to), then Thomas is probably stuck with a deferred sentence or deferred prosecution and probation, at best. See below article on that subject.
1. "Sale of marijuana
Any amount felony 1 year - life $50,000
To a minor felony additional 2 years - life $50,000
Within 1,000 feet of school** felony additional 3 years - life $50,000
** That the person did not know the distance to a school may not be brought as a defense in court.
An affirmative defense may be raised if the conduct took place entirely within a private residence, and that no person under 17 years of age was present in the private residence at any time during the commission of the offense."
2. "Brant Light, who heads the Montana Department of Justice's Prosecution Services Bureau, said that "while Montana's laws - which are crafted by the Legislature - do not differentiate between substances or amounts, the reality is judges by and large are not sentencing young, first-time offenders to prison for selling small amounts of marijuana."
The Montana Supreme Court ruled in 1983, in State v. Arbgast, that state law allows for deferred or suspended sentences in cases involving marijuana sales.
"While the judge exercises his or her best discretion," Light said, "those first-time offenders are likely to face a deferred or suspended sentence."
3. Read more: http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_e3b0df6e-6e2c-11e0-bb1b-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1Q7BTbh5z" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_e3b0df6e-6e2c-11e0-bb1b-001cc4c002e0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; [similar situations and harsh sentences]
1. "Sale of marijuana
Any amount felony 1 year - life $50,000
To a minor felony additional 2 years - life $50,000
Within 1,000 feet of school** felony additional 3 years - life $50,000
** That the person did not know the distance to a school may not be brought as a defense in court.
An affirmative defense may be raised if the conduct took place entirely within a private residence, and that no person under 17 years of age was present in the private residence at any time during the commission of the offense."
2. "Brant Light, who heads the Montana Department of Justice's Prosecution Services Bureau, said that "while Montana's laws - which are crafted by the Legislature - do not differentiate between substances or amounts, the reality is judges by and large are not sentencing young, first-time offenders to prison for selling small amounts of marijuana."
The Montana Supreme Court ruled in 1983, in State v. Arbgast, that state law allows for deferred or suspended sentences in cases involving marijuana sales.
"While the judge exercises his or her best discretion," Light said, "those first-time offenders are likely to face a deferred or suspended sentence."
3. Read more: http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_e3b0df6e-6e2c-11e0-bb1b-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1Q7BTbh5z" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_e3b0df6e-6e2c-11e0-bb1b-001cc4c002e0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; [similar situations and harsh sentences]
