Really happy the Griz did not get the Thomas's

[PlayerRep]

Yeah, but the goverment is also f***[*] stupid. Clearly you are too.

Yaya, the government and everyone in the world is stupid, except for you. Pretty funny. You are not going to get far in life, me thinks.

 

[PlayerRep]

What are you dense in the head? Do yo not remember Jimmy Wilson or did you accidently forget about that. Pretty sure killing a guy and fleeing the state is a felony. Phlugrad has certainly dealt with the same things Ash has. So yeah you can compare his disciplinary philosophies or lack there of, it goes both ways bud.

Jimmy Wilson? You mean the kid acquitted of all charges in July of 2009, six months before Phlugrad became Griz coach? The scared kid who used a gun to defend his family and lost three years of his life because of a racist prosecutor?

Yeah, he's not a felon.

Wilson was dropped from the team, when felony charged occurred. From what I've read, Wilson just defended himself when they other guy came after him with a gun of the other guy, and it went off in the struggle. That's why he was acquitted on the basis of self-defense.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

If Connor was acquitted from these charges, I'm sure he'd be reinstated much like JW was.

As far as the which is worse argument between DUI and dealing pot goes, it doesn't matter. The kid had to of known that if he had gotten caught dealing he would lose his scholly. He decided that dealing was important enough to quantify the risk of losing it all. That's all that really matters. It was handled well by Ash. I'm sure Phlu would have handled it very similar.

 

[Cats2506]

What should a D1 coach do with a High School Recruit that Gets caught stealing beer from a Convenience store, plays in the 1st games of the season less his scholarship gets a DUI and then flunks out after one year of college.

Coach Ash and the kittens chant................





Bring him back, bring him back, his brother was all conference!

Brad didn't flunk out, he left with passing grades so will be academically eligible when he re enrolls, He left because he didn't think he wanted to play football any more, and has since decided that he does.

 

[tourist]

Yeah, but the goverment is also f***[*] stupid. Clearly you are too.

A MSU recruit makes and sells THC laced brownies at his high school graduation party, gets caught and loses his scholarship(and makes the Associated Press wire).
How did this thread get highjacked to a idiotic debate about marijuana? JCU27(Jeff Spicoli, "High Times At Ridgemont High" 1982), please put this thread out of its misery, and stop posting to it. You are suffering death by a thousand cuts. Your blood is all over the place. You have been cut up by nearly every poster on eGriz. Please, pick another topic.

 

[jcu27]

Yeah, but the goverment is also f***[*] stupid. Clearly you are too.

A MSU recruit makes and sells THC laced brownies at his high school graduation party, gets caught and loses his scholarship(and makes the Associated Press wire).
How did this thread get highjacked to a idiotic debate about marijuana? JCU27(Jeff Spicoli, "High Times At Ridgemont High" 1982), please put this thread out of its misery, and stop posting to it. You are suffering death by a thousand cuts. Your blood is all over the place. You have been cut up by nearly every poster on eGriz. Please, pick another topic.

First off this convo has to do with marijuana considering that's what he got busted for, so no it didn't get hijacked. I have been cut up by other posters? All they do is post incorrect information and make themselves look like more dumbasses. It's funny because only like 2 or 3 people on here know what the fuck they are talking about when it comes to this subject.

 

[Paytonlives]

JCU

I see both sides of this issue...

The Question is not wether pot should be legal or not, but rather did Conner Thomas break the law as it currently stands. And by all accounts so far he did...

If you feel as strongly as you do then we live in America and go out and get the law changed. If enough people believe as you do then that should not be hard to accomplish.

But your arguement that he should be not guilty because you dont like the law doesn't hold water....

 

[jcu27]

JCU

I see both sides of this issue...

The Question is not wether pot should be legal or not, but rather did Conner Thomas break the law as it currently stands. And by all accounts so far he did...

If you feel as strongly as you do then we live in America and go out and get the law changed. If enough people believe as you do then that should not be hard to accomplish.

But your arguement that he should be not guilty because you dont like the law doesn't hold water....

I never said that he should not be guilty, clearly he admitted to doing it. I don't think it was right for him to do that. I'm just saying it's not even close to being as bad as drunk driving and people shouldn't be flippin out so much on him. There is a lot of people in the US that want marijuana legalized, but with how many people the government has brainwashed it's going to be hard to do. Btw I wasn't debating whether it should be legal or not either. You guys do know there is a petition to end the war on drugs? There is already about 700,000 people who have signed it. Marijuana is also trying to be decriminalized in many of the states, some have already done so. So whether people like it or not marijuana is going to become legal within the next 10 years(atleast in some states).

 

[jcu27]

Yeah, but the goverment is also f***[*] stupid. Clearly you are too.

Yaya, the government and everyone in the world is stupid, except for you. Pretty funny. You are not going to get far in life, me thinks.

I never said everyone in the world is stupid. Just brainwashed idiots that can't seem to do their own thinking so they result to the dumb government aka you. How do you figure i'm not going to go far in life? You don't know me and you sure in the hell don't know what I have done. You think i'm not going to go far in life because I think the government is stupid or well actually they are pretty smart they seem to lie good and easily manipulate people. Anyways the government is just basically a cult of ignorant jackasses that only care if they are getting payed.

 

[stubbins]

Exactly. Pretty much night and day discipline between FLU and ASH. Thomas booted from Cats w/o even waiting for his day in court. That will carry over to each others team. There was a reason the Griz teams were so sloppy and undisciplined last year.

Easy there, Glasshouse. It's pretty hard to see any D1 football coach keeping an admitted drug dealer on the team, particularly one who blew his second chance after nine months.

Coach Phlugrad has not yet had a player or recruit accused of a felony, so it's difficult to compare his disciplinary philosophy to Ash. What we do know from the Ash tenure is this: if you get drunk and break into a stranger's home, you are welcome to play bobcat football.

What are you dense in the head? Do yo not remember Jimmy Wilson or did you accidently forget about that. Pretty sure killing a guy and fleeing the state is a felony. Phlugrad has certainly dealt with the same things Ash has. So yeah you can compare his disciplinary philosophies or lack there of, it goes both ways bud.

I am curious as to what felony JW committed? I'm betting his record doesnt' show one...unlike Thomas.

If anything, Pflu and Ash have been confronted with the same decision once, whether to let a kid have a second chance. Pflu let JW have a second chance and it worked out, Ash let Thomas have a second chance, and it didn't work out.

Ash had to save face, as would any coach put in that position. I am sure that Ash had a talk with Thomas about staying out of trouble...not really his fault the kid is a fuck up.

 

[jcu27]

Exactly. Pretty much night and day discipline between FLU and ASH. Thomas booted from Cats w/o even waiting for his day in court. That will carry over to each others team. There was a reason the Griz teams were so sloppy and undisciplined last year.

Easy there, Glasshouse. It's pretty hard to see any D1 football coach keeping an admitted drug dealer on the team, particularly one who blew his second chance after nine months.

Coach Phlugrad has not yet had a player or recruit accused of a felony, so it's difficult to compare his disciplinary philosophy to Ash. What we do know from the Ash tenure is this: if you get drunk and break into a stranger's home, you are welcome to play bobcat football.

What are you dense in the head? Do yo not remember Jimmy Wilson or did you accidently forget about that. Pretty sure killing a guy and fleeing the state is a felony. Phlugrad has certainly dealt with the same things Ash has. So yeah you can compare his disciplinary philosophies or lack there of, it goes both ways bud.

I am curious as to what felony JW committed? I'm betting his record doesnt' show one...unlike Thomas.

If anything, Pflu and Ash have been confronted with the same decision once, whether to let a kid have a second chance. Pflu let JW have a second chance and it worked out, Ash let Thomas have a second chance, and it didn't work out.

Ash had to save face, as would any coach put in that position. I am sure that Ash had a talk with Thomas about staying out of trouble...not really his fault the kid is a f*** up.

He's a fuck up because he ate and sold brownies? Yet Nate Montana drives drunk and possibly could of endangered peoples lives. Yeah that's so much better and less of a fuck up. Man Nate Montana is just so awesome and smart. That Thomas kid man watch out! He might sell ya a brownie! Nate Montana on the other hand might run over your child while intoxicated. No biggie..

 

['68griz]

JCU, how you feel about marijuana laws is absolutely and totally irrelevant to this discussion. What Connor Thomas did was illegal under current legislation, and nothing else much matters.

 

[WILD_CAT]

JCU, how you feel about marijuana laws is absolutely and totally irrelevant to this discussion. What Connor Thomas did was illegal under current legislation, and nothing else much matters.

Yeah, I mean Thomas could have given them hits of chew and had them puking inside the party as well under the current law.

 

[coyote]

JCU, how you feel about marijuana laws is absolutely and totally irrelevant to this discussion. What Connor Thomas did was illegal under current legislation, and nothing else much matters.

Yeah, I mean Thomas could have given them hits of chew and had them puking inside the party as well under the current law.

I don't believe Montana was found guilty. Thomas on the other hand admitted his. Montana was arrested, not convicted.

 

[PlayerRep]

JCU, how you feel about marijuana laws is absolutely and totally irrelevant to this discussion. What Connor Thomas did was illegal under current legislation, and nothing else much matters.

Yeah, I mean Thomas could have given them hits of chew and had them puking inside the party as well under the current law.

From a newspaper article. Parse is apparently a policeman who attended the graduation party. Is causing someone to have a medical emergency not some indication of endangerment?

"Parse said the marijuana brownie issue came to light when a 17-year-old Glacier High graduate approached him on June 4.

He "was in distress and his face was pale," Parse said. The boy told Parse about another 17-year-old who appeared to be having a medical emergency. Several students told the officer that the youth had consumed marijuana brownies in the parking lot. Parse called paramedics.

Six 17-year-olds, along with Thomas, were sent home from the party with their parents after showing symptoms that included confusion, hallucinations, increased heart rates, perspiration and garbled speech, police said."

 

[jcu27]

JCU, how you feel about marijuana laws is absolutely and totally irrelevant to this discussion. What Connor Thomas did was illegal under current legislation, and nothing else much matters.

Yeah, I mean Thomas could have given them hits of chew and had them puking inside the party as well under the current law.

From a newspaper article. Parse is apparently a policeman who attended the graduation party. Is causing someone to have a medical emergency not some indication of endangerment?

"Parse said the marijuana brownie issue came to light when a 17-year-old Glacier High graduate approached him on June 4.

He "was in distress and his face was pale," Parse said. The boy told Parse about another 17-year-old who appeared to be having a medical emergency. Several students told the officer that the youth had consumed marijuana brownies in the parking lot. Parse called paramedics.

Six 17-year-olds, along with Thomas, were sent home from the party with their parents after showing symptoms that included confusion, hallucinations, increased heart rates, perspiration and garbled speech, police said."

Marijuana does not cause hallucinations and he wouldn't be in distress or pale(unless because he was having a panic attack, still wouldn't cause hallucinations)...Isn't possible that something else was mixed in? Dealers often do lace marijuana so that the person will get hooked and keep coming back. I'm sure nothing was even wrong with the kid though...Most likely a first timer and was just scared..There is no way that marijuana can endanger someones life unless laced..And a kid freaking out isn't a medical emergency especially if it is just from marijuana.

 

[jcu27]

JCU, how you feel about marijuana laws is absolutely and totally irrelevant to this discussion. What Connor Thomas did was illegal under current legislation, and nothing else much matters.

It's not how I feel about marijuana laws....It's about how ridiculous people are acting towards this kid over some damn mj brownies. So what if Nate Montana hasn't been convicted yet, obviously he was drinking and driving and you can be fined for the cops smelling alcohol on you, it's what happened to me and i've gotten m.i.ps from that too and I know a lot of other people that have aswell. Also the cops and judge told me they could. Nate Montana will lose this case unless he has daddy bribe them. So just saying Nate hasn't been convicted doesn't justify that he'd been drinking when driving and could of put those passangers and whoever was out that night in danger. How is it that just because of that what Thomas did was a felony make it worse than what Nate did? Nate obviously did something way worse. If you can't see that you are delusional and have a weird obsession with hating marijuana for no reason.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Just a bit of unsolicited advice to jcu27:

First, a disclaimer. I think alcohol causes more societal problems than weed. I don't necessarily want my dentist to get high before he drills my tooth, but you get my viewpoint.

Now, here's my advice. A pithy one-liner is way more effective than endless posts that all basically say the same thing, over and over and over. Especially when those posts include insults to people whom you perceive to have insulted you. Dude, you're not going to convince anybody who's not already on your side, and nobody on the other side of the issue is going to convince you. So really, it's probably best to just stop. It's boring.

So, torch up a spliff and let's operate some heavy machinery.

 

[PlayerRep]

JCU, how you feel about marijuana laws is absolutely and totally irrelevant to this discussion. What Connor Thomas did was illegal under current legislation, and nothing else much matters.

Yeah, I mean Thomas could have given them hits of chew and had them puking inside the party as well under the current law.

From a newspaper article. Parse is apparently a policeman who attended the graduation party. Is causing someone to have a medical emergency not some indication of endangerment?

"Parse said the marijuana brownie issue came to light when a 17-year-old Glacier High graduate approached him on June 4.

He "was in distress and his face was pale," Parse said. The boy told Parse about another 17-year-old who appeared to be having a medical emergency. Several students told the officer that the youth had consumed marijuana brownies in the parking lot. Parse called paramedics.

Six 17-year-olds, along with Thomas, were sent home from the party with their parents after showing symptoms that included confusion, hallucinations, increased heart rates, perspiration and garbled speech, police said."

Marijuana does not cause hallucinations and he wouldn't be in distress or pale(unless because he was having a panic attack, still wouldn't cause hallucinations)...Isn't possible that something else was mixed in? Dealers often do lace marijuana so that the person will get hooked and keep coming back. I'm sure nothing was even wrong with the kid though...Most likely a first timer and was just scared..There is no way that marijuana can endanger someones life unless laced..And a kid freaking out isn't a medical emergency especially if it is just from marijuana.

You really are a fountain of misinformation. If you Google whether marijuana can cause hallucinations, dozens of sites will come up, saying yes to that question. An example.

"In high doses, marijuana can cause:

hallucinations
delusions
impaired memory
disorientation."

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:E0cozPNJ8rMJ:faculty.washington.edu/chudler/mari.html+can+marijuana+cause+halluciinations&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Grizbeer]

Just a bit of unsolicited advice to jcu27:

First, a disclaimer. I think alcohol causes more societal problems than weed. I don't necessarily want my dentist to get high before he drills my tooth, but you get my viewpoint.

Now, here's my advice. A pithy one-liner is way more effective than endless posts that all basically say the same thing, over and over and over. Especially when those posts include insults to people whom you perceive to have insulted you. Dude, you're not going to convince anybody who's not already on your side, and nobody on the other side of the issue is going to convince you. So really, it's probably best to just stop. It's boring.

So, torch up a spliff and let's operate some heavy machinery.

FWIW, I used to firmly believe marijuana should be legal, is less harmful than alcohol, etc. However after the debacle of the MMJ industry over the last few years, and the ranting and paranoia from advocates especially this last legislative session, I am starting to question my belief and wonder if the government is right about it being illegal. We have all known stoner dudes who were incapable of putting sentences together, but I have always assumed they were brain dead before smoking pot. Now I have to wonder, did they get stupid from smoking pot, or did they smoke pot and were stupid? Sadly it appears some people just can't handle the weed and become a menace to society. Too bad some have to ruin it for everyone.

JCU as AWF says, probably the best thing you could do for your cause is to stop. Or maybe you are a secret government double agent, reinforcing all the stereotypes about people who smoke weed so people on the fence agree to keep it illegal so big multinational corporations can keep making huge profits and keep the people under control. maybe you are part of a giant pharma-corporate-government conspiracy. I'm so confused now.