QB transfer?

[CDAGRIZ]

Quick thought on the one-year transfer: Does Bobby have time to wait for a QB to “develop”, or does he know that 2023 had better be a good one?

And therein lies the crux of the situation, are they trying to develop a good QB or just putting a band-aid on the problem?

Band Aid for 2023. My point was the staff might know it can’t afford to spend a season developing a QB in games at this stage. If we were coming off a conference championship and a final four, maybe.

Metaphorically speaking, you don’t try out a brand new play from your own 2-yd line. You run the known entity to get some breathing room even if you know you have intentions to open up the playbook later in the drive.

 

[SoldierGriz]

And therein lies the crux of the situation, are they trying to develop a good QB or just putting a band-aid on the problem?

Band Aid for 2023. My point was the staff might know it can’t afford to spend a season developing a QB in games at this stage. If we were coming off a conference championship and a final four, maybe.

Metaphorically speaking, you don’t try out a brand new play from your own 2-yd line. You run the known entity to get some breathing room even if you know you have intentions to open up the playbook later in the drive.

If the staff doesn't have some sense of urgency to elevate the Program next season...something is very, very wrong.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Band Aid for 2023. My point was the staff might know it can’t afford to spend a season developing a QB in games at this stage. If we were coming off a conference championship and a final four, maybe.

Metaphorically speaking, you don’t try out a brand new play from your own 2-yd line. You run the known entity to get some breathing room even if you know you have intentions to open up the playbook later in the drive.

If the staff doesn't have some sense of urgency to elevate the Program next season...something is very, very wrong.

Agreed. So do you take a P5 transfer with game experience so the FCS seems much slower for him, or a Montana AA QB for whom the FCS seems like the NFL on Bobcat OTC supplements?

 

[Fahque]

I hope not. If you're going after a transfer, go get a younger guy, not another one hit wonder. If this is true I can see Britt leaving for sure.

Maybe he’ll leave, but I don’t understand this logic. A one year guy is probably the best situation for Britt, long term. He still needs to develop, as evidenced by the NDSU game.

Any transfer with 2 or more years likely means he doesn’t get to be the guy unless the transfer gets hurt during that entire time. We’ve seen the importance of having a capable backup, so there’s a high likelihood the 2nd string guy will have to play at some point. Sitting one more year with the opportunity to prove he’s the guy in 2024 sounds better to me than having to battle another guy for 2-3 more years.

But I dunno, I’m not Daniel Britt, so who knows?

Edit: not sure why everyone is saying he has 2 years left. Tuttle has one year remaining. He retweeted a teammate’s transfer announcement that said 2 years, but that’s not Jack’s tweet.

And he, or any other QB for that matter, will never get to develop if Bobby keeps bringing in one year wonders to play over him

 

[Griz2k]

Maybe he’ll leave, but I don’t understand this logic. A one year guy is probably the best situation for Britt, long term. He still needs to develop, as evidenced by the NDSU game.

Any transfer with 2 or more years likely means he doesn’t get to be the guy unless the transfer gets hurt during that entire time. We’ve seen the importance of having a capable backup, so there’s a high likelihood the 2nd string guy will have to play at some point. Sitting one more year with the opportunity to prove he’s the guy in 2024 sounds better to me than having to battle another guy for 2-3 more years.

But I dunno, I’m not Daniel Britt, so who knows?

Edit: not sure why everyone is saying he has 2 years left. Tuttle has one year remaining. He retweeted a teammate’s transfer announcement that said 2 years, but that’s not Jack’s tweet.

And he, or any other QB for that matter, will never get to develop if Bobby keeps bringing in one year wonders to play over him

Maybe that's the solution. Stop wasting time recruiting QB's out of high school and focus on other needs like, oh...I don't know, offensive linemen!

 

[Griz til I die]

Maybe he’ll leave, but I don’t understand this logic. A one year guy is probably the best situation for Britt, long term. He still needs to develop, as evidenced by the NDSU game.

Any transfer with 2 or more years likely means he doesn’t get to be the guy unless the transfer gets hurt during that entire time. We’ve seen the importance of having a capable backup, so there’s a high likelihood the 2nd string guy will have to play at some point. Sitting one more year with the opportunity to prove he’s the guy in 2024 sounds better to me than having to battle another guy for 2-3 more years.

But I dunno, I’m not Daniel Britt, so who knows?

Edit: not sure why everyone is saying he has 2 years left. Tuttle has one year remaining. He retweeted a teammate’s transfer announcement that said 2 years, but that’s not Jack’s tweet.

And he, or any other QB for that matter, will never get to develop if Bobby keeps bringing in one year wonders to play over him

Why not? What if Britt's the more impressive QB this Spring? Both guys will get the same amount of reps in Spring ball, that's what the Spring is for. What if Britt out works Tuttle and earns the starting job? Maybe this is good motivation for Britt to develop and learn the play book better. I would think Britt knows he's knocking on the door step of the starting job, but also knows he's not quite there yet. This could be good for him!

 

[Fahque]

And he, or any other QB for that matter, will never get to develop if Bobby keeps bringing in one year wonders to play over him

Why not? What if Britt's the more impressive QB this Spring? Both guys will get the same amount of reps in Spring ball, that's what the Spring is for. What if Britt out works Tuttle and earns the starting job? Maybe this is good motivation for Britt to develop and learn the play book better. I would think Britt knows he's knocking on the door step of the starting job, but also knows he's not quite there yet. This could be good for him!

That would be one thing, and I do think competition is a healthy thing. I just don't trust this coaching staff to actually give the QB's on the roster a legitimate chance. After all, they brought in their guy for a reason

 

[uofmman1122]

And he, or any other QB for that matter, will never get to develop if Bobby keeps bringing in one year wonders to play over him

Maybe that's the solution. Stop wasting time recruiting QB's out of high school and focus on other needs like, oh...I don't know, offensive linemen!

There are programs that do exactly this. At the highest levels of college football. This is not some crazy thing, it's just how it is now.

 

[tgreseth]

Since we can only speak in hypotheticals, maybe the plan is a two qb system like sac used. Maybe this dude is Britt’s backup ala the katz model

 

[mthoopsfan]

Why not? What if Britt's the more impressive QB this Spring? Both guys will get the same amount of reps in Spring ball, that's what the Spring is for. What if Britt out works Tuttle and earns the starting job? Maybe this is good motivation for Britt to develop and learn the play book better. I would think Britt knows he's knocking on the door step of the starting job, but also knows he's not quite there yet. This could be good for him!

That would be one thing, and I do think competition is a healthy thing. I just don't trust this coaching staff to actually give the QB's on the roster a legitimate chance. After all, they brought in their guy for a reason

Take a look at how the backups played late this season compared to the Indiana guy. Who is the better and more advanced qb?

 

[uofmman1122]

Why not? What if Britt's the more impressive QB this Spring? Both guys will get the same amount of reps in Spring ball, that's what the Spring is for. What if Britt out works Tuttle and earns the starting job? Maybe this is good motivation for Britt to develop and learn the play book better. I would think Britt knows he's knocking on the door step of the starting job, but also knows he's not quite there yet. This could be good for him!

That would be one thing, and I do think competition is a healthy thing. I just don't trust this coaching staff to actually give the QB's on the roster a legitimate chance. After all, they brought in their guy for a reason

If he sticks around, I think he'll get a shot to be the guy in spring ball, but based on what I saw against NDSU, I think he's gonna have to make big strides in the offseason in order to beat out this kid (if he is indeed here).

But if he's the #2 guy and plays well in relief, then the job should be very attainable in 2024 and 2025 for him.

 

[UncleRico]

Quick thought on the one-year transfer: Does Bobby have time to wait for a QB to “develop”, or does he know that 2023 had better be a good one?

And therein lies the crux of the situation, are they trying to develop a good QB or just putting a band-aid on the problem? I'm picturing the QB recruiting guide for this staff looks something like this...

Step 1: Recruit QB
Step 2: Move him to defense
Step 3: If he can't play defense, bury him on the depth chart and make sure he gets no first team reps
Step 4: Let people know he is not ready and/or doesn't grasp the offense
Step 5: Recruit transfer QB and hope another staff was better at developing said transfer
Step 6: Repeat

The Montana kids that we recruit are usually the best athlete on their high school team. So i think many get recruited with the thought they can play other places. For example I think Graves has become a very solid defensive player and I think Carson Rostad will end being a very good LB.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Quick thought on the one-year transfer: Does Bobby have time to wait for a QB to “develop”, or does he know that 2023 had better be a good one?

I definitely think you are on to something. Bobby has said in a couple different interviews now that you recruit to put the best team on the field for that football season that year and that is it. He said the transfer portal has really changed the way you bring in players and develop them from high school. Now it’s more of a plug and play to put your best team together for that season.

 

[Griz2k]

And therein lies the crux of the situation, are they trying to develop a good QB or just putting a band-aid on the problem? I'm picturing the QB recruiting guide for this staff looks something like this...

Step 1: Recruit QB
Step 2: Move him to defense
Step 3: If he can't play defense, bury him on the depth chart and make sure he gets no first team reps
Step 4: Let people know he is not ready and/or doesn't grasp the offense
Step 5: Recruit transfer QB and hope another staff was better at developing said transfer
Step 6: Repeat

The Montana kids that we recruit are usually the best athlete on their high school team. So i think many get recruited with the thought they can play other places. For example I think Graves has become a very solid defensive player and I think Carson Rostad will end being a very good LB.

Agreed. Though I suppose I don't know much about Rostad yet, but I sure hope he will be.

 

[Griz2k]

That would be one thing, and I do think competition is a healthy thing. I just don't trust this coaching staff to actually give the QB's on the roster a legitimate chance. After all, they brought in their guy for a reason

Take a look at how the backups played late this season compared to the Indiana guy. Who is the better and more advanced qb?

Hard to answer that. Haven't seen Tuttle play. Stats are not overly impressive in 4 years at Indiana. 57% completion rate. Averaged 5 yards per attempt. 5 TD's to 6 INT's. 50 rush attempts for 79 yards, long of 15. He may very well be better and more advanced. I guess we'll see if he signs. For the Griz offense, I'd like to see someone a bit more mobile, but that's just my opinion.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

This. ^^^

However it seems our coaches are either inept at doing this or just lazy. Seems like this staff would rather take the easy path and try to get a QB that someone else has already developed.

Same thought here. We keep kicking this can down the road hoping we can land a one-year wonder. Tough to know we have QBs on our roster that were very successful in HS and are sitting there knowing that new grad transfers are coming in every year.

No shit. If Idaho can get a kid like they have to come to Idaho and play. What the hell is our staff even doing??

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Quick thought on the one-year transfer: Does Bobby have time to wait for a QB to “develop”, or does he know that 2023 had better be a good one?

I definitely think you are on to something. Bobby has said in a couple different interviews now that you recruit to put the best team on the field for that football season that year and that is it. He said the transfer portal has really changed the way you bring in players and develop them from high school. Now it’s more of a plug and play to put your best team together for that season.

It’s also never been easier to get high end recruits out of high school because of the portal. So much talent is getting passed up for the win now portal kids.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I definitely think you are on to something. Bobby has said in a couple different interviews now that you recruit to put the best team on the field for that football season that year and that is it. He said the transfer portal has really changed the way you bring in players and develop them from high school. Now it’s more of a plug and play to put your best team together for that season.

It’s also never been easier to get high end recruits out of high school because of the portal. So much talent is getting passed up for the win now portal kids.

Good point. That Spokane HS coach complaining about the lack of college coaches contacting him needs to think just a bit harder about why that might be. The talent has to go somewhere.

Further, I’ve heard people complain that a great HS recruit would just transfer out/up after a couple good years anyway. So? We get the benefit for those two years. Besides, it’s not like we play the long game with QBs anyway. I say go get some HS dudes who fell through the FBS cracks and embrace our role as a farm team that wins all the time.

 

[CatGrad-UMGradStu]

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/montana-state-university/montana-state-receiver-jaden-smith-enters-transfer-portal/article_93eacabb-99c5-53bd-95c8-ce8c86d9770e.html

Remember all these kids who played significant minutes over the hill last year? Two kids who transferred in to replace them got worked over by the "compliance" rules and had to sit a couple games. Both problems were with the registrar.

All things considered, the portal is the best thing to have happened to a college athlete in over 50 years, second only to letting freshman play.

 

[Spanky2]

Why are people concerned about the portal and a new method of recruiting? As we know, there are many unknowns in high school recruiting starting with the actual talent of the young man. The portal removes much of the mystery. It appears that many schools will recruit mostly from the portal .