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Proof is in the Pudding

alabamagrizzly said:
AZGrizFan said:
This was an issue and discussed here LONG before said RS Frosh made his comments on the way out the door. it’s obvious to the most casual observer. And were he the only data point I might agree with you. Alas, he is not…the list is long and illustrious.

Ok but that still does not respond to my main point and that is maybe the coaches have got these guys as good as they can get givin their abilities. Were Sneed, Cam, and LJ not better QB’s when the left then when they first arrived?

Well pick your poison, I guess. Is it player development (for you CDA) that’s the issue? Or is it talent identification? Or why not both?
 
AZGrizFan said:
alabamagrizzly said:
Ok but that still does not respond to my main point and that is maybe the coaches have got these guys as good as they can get givin their abilities. Were Sneed, Cam, and LJ not better QB’s when the left then when they first arrived?

Well pick your poison, I guess. Is it player development (for you CDA) that’s the issue? Or is it talent identification? Or why not both?

I know you weren’t asking me, but I think the best way to coach up any backup QB room is to get better players in the room. Hold a couple pressers to announce the additions to the room.
 
AZGrizFan said:
alabamagrizzly said:
I would counter that with a coach can only “coach up” as much as a players ability can allow. You can teach technique and knowledge but you can’t teach the tangibles like playing under pressure where making the correct reads in the heat of the moment, or rather second is a gift that not every QB has. Much like speed which separated Dalton from the pack, you can’t coach that. You can teach them what to look for presnap and for a split second after the snap but once the play starts to unfold, those QB’s that excel there have a natural ability that is very hard to coach up. It’s possible that the coaches have done the best they could do with the talent they’ve recruited. Remember, the only reason this is now in question is because a promising redshirt freshman who wasn’t given hardly any playing time said he felt he wasn’t growing in the QB room. That very well could mean more then just coaching abilities although that’s what we all think he was implying.

This was an issue and discussed here LONG before said RS Frosh made his comments on the way out the door. it’s obvious to the most casual observer. And were he the only data point I might agree with you. Alas, he is not…the list is long and illustrious.
All the former players I know that went 51-5 under Hauck with two QBs recruited out of HS strongly disagree.
 
WaGriz4life said:
AZGrizFan said:
This was an issue and discussed here LONG before said RS Frosh made his comments on the way out the door. it’s obvious to the most casual observer. And were he the only data point I might agree with you. Alas, he is not…the list is long and illustrious.
All the former players I know that went 51-5 under Hauck with two QBs recruited out of HS strongly disagree.

The good ole days indeed...
 
WaGriz4life said:
AZGrizFan said:
This was an issue and discussed here LONG before said RS Frosh made his comments on the way out the door. it’s obvious to the most casual observer. And were he the only data point I might agree with you. Alas, he is not…the list is long and illustrious.
All the former players I know that went 51-5 under Hauck with two QBs recruited out of HS strongly disagree.

How very 2008 of you.
 
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