Post Game: Too Little Too Late

[ALPHAGRIZISANUT]

I can find no quote from Lombardi that reads, "You cannot teach winning" please give me a source on that.

"Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all of the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." - Lombardi

We used to have habitually winners and now we have habitually losers.

Don't tell me Tripp doesn't have the will to win. And I'd be curious to get an actual answer from you - do you think he shouldn't be a Griz because he came from a high school team that wasn't a winning program?

I think Tripp is a good player on defensive, but lacks the leadership necessary to lead a championship defense. The proof is in the pudding with this: under his watch at UM, the defense has had its worst years in program history.

 

[1972]

I'm proud of this team, the last two games showed me they have a tremendous will to win. In my opinion that's what it takes at the end of the season and the playoffs. We all know that the game comes down to a few big plays, today most all of those plays went to Eastern, a few of those jump balls could have went either way, penalty here or there and its a different game. Eastern is a very very talented team, and very well coached. Hold your head up ,lots of football left to be played. I'm excited!!!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

The proof is in the pudding with this: under his watch at UM, the defense has had its worst years in program history.

:shock: Really?

 

[jodcon]

The proof is in the pudding with this: under his watch at UM, the defense has had its worst years in program history.

:shock: Really?

Strange, I thought we were #1 in Scoring Defense and Total Defense coming in...

 

[PhxGriz]

Good post as always Brint. The players of the game for EWU were definitely the wide receivers. They are play makers and I am not saying Vernon Adams is not a great QB but his receivers go get the ball and some of Adams passes were not on target but the wr go get the ball. There were several passes where the defense had good coverage and even could have made a play on the ball but the wr went up and did their thing.

I agree with the play calling and how the Griz are not suited for power running. The kicking game is what it is. I wonder if Worst could have had more reps in prior games rather than having the coaches go for it all the time if the experience could have helped him and boosted his confidence. On the other hand, maybe the Griz just don't have a quality kicker that can step up when needed. Time will tell but i like what I see from Worst more than the other.

This loss hurts but it could have been much worse. I am honestly more upset with the fan support than the play of the Griz. The crowd bailing out was about as disappointing as the predictable play calling. The formations and players in for different packages sort of tips the hat at what play is coming. The biggest surprise of the coaching staff that I was happy about was how they pretended that Van wasn't going to play yet he did.

Are you f***[*] kidding ME? We now need the crowd to win? Jesoos Marimba, we need a coach to pull his head out of his ass and actually call a winner of a game.

f*** dude.

:lol: I had to laugh when I read your response. I never said the Griz need the crowd to win. I agree with you 110% about the coach :thumb:

All I am saying is a large number of the crowd that even bothered to show up for the second half left when the score was 42-17. The players feed of the energy of the crowd so it does help them at times along with giving the defense an edge at times. EWU only had one false start that I can remember and that was late in the game so obviously they have experience playing in front of big crowds. The home field advantage of UM is second to none in FCS but no the Griz do not need the crowd to win. They need better play calling and/or preparation along with better execution in all three phases of the game.

My apologies. I am just bitter like many on this board and very willing to jump on anything I don't like, even if I haven't been thorough in reading through.

Thanks for cutting me some slack brother. :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

Why do you think the players call for the crowd made noise before many of the plays, especially big plays? Do you think they're just playing with the crowd? Or just killing time before the play?

Has it really never occurred to you that they think the crowd noise will impact the opponent and fire up the Griz?

It is astounding how little some of you understand about the game.

 

[PhxGriz]

Why do you think the players call for the crowd made noise before many of the plays, especially big plays? Do you think they're just playing with the crowd? Or just killing time before the play?

Has it really never occurred to you that they think the crowd noise will impact the opponent and fire up the Griz?

It is astounding how little some of you understand about the game.

Are you kidding me? You don't think the Montana crowd doesn't understand the necessity of being loud?

Just answer my question in the other thread dude.

 

[Grizzoola]

If the Griz would play quarters 1-3 like they play quarter 4, they wouldn't nearly have lost to CalPoly or lost to EWU. This idea of "balance" in the Griz O isn't working. I think that's where the idea of "stubbornness" comes in, this set mentality that the Griz have to be "balanced," regardless of circumstances.

Instead of trying to establish the run to open up the passing game, maybe it should be the reverse. Seems the Griz do far better with more passing and opening up the D. Instead of 50% run & 50% passing, it should be 25% run & 75% passing. Go w/ what's working, not w/ what's not working.

 

[1972]

One thing I took from the game, need to work the short passing game, quick strikes will open up the run and the longer pass. Almost all of Eastern passes were short (high completion %) and the receivers turned them into longer runs.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

If the Griz would play quarters 1-3 like they play quarter 4, they wouldn't nearly have lost to CalPoly or lost to EWU. This idea of "balance" in the Griz O isn't working. I think that's where the idea of "stubbornness" comes in, this set mentality that the Griz have to be "balanced," regardless of circumstances.

Instead of trying to establish the run to open up the passing game, maybe it should be the reverse. Seems the Griz do far better with more passing and opening up the D. Instead of 50% run & 50% passing, it should be 25% run & 75% passing. Go w/ what's working, not w/ what's not working.

Remember in the last two games the offense looked better late when the other teams softened up thinking they have the game in hand. Once you left off the gas it is hard to get back on.


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[get'em_griz]

If the Griz would play quarters 1-3 like they play quarter 4, they wouldn't nearly have lost to CalPoly or lost to EWU. This idea of "balance" in the Griz O isn't working. I think that's where the idea of "stubbornness" comes in, this set mentality that the Griz have to be "balanced," regardless of circumstances.

Instead of trying to establish the run to open up the passing game, maybe it should be the reverse. Seems the Griz do far better with more passing and opening up the D. Instead of 50% run & 50% passing, it should be 25% run & 75% passing. Go w/ what's working, not w/ what's not working.

Remember in the last two games the offense looked better late when the other teams softened up thinking they have the game in hand. Once you left off the gas it is hard to get back on.


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I'm pretty sure in no way Cal Poly thought they had the game in hand with a 7-point lead going into our final drive... I do believe we need to pass more. The defenses know we're going to run and they have had great game plans in stopping our run for the most part. But when we open up our quick passes, we become a different offense. I agree with Grizzoola that maybe if we were to add more passes in our game plan instead of relying on our run game to open up our pass game, we will see more improvement in our offense. :twocents:

 

[tenyardpass]

Great write-up, as usual, BW. I'm glad you mentioned the Griz missing Goodwin. I also mentioned it in another thread, but no one else has said anything about his absence -- Adams was throwing over (and beating) Dennard all game long. Also really liked your comments about the coaches wanting this to be a "power-run team"; that simply is never going to happen with RBs the size of ours and an OL that can't open up a hole for a little mouse.

+1000!

As stupid as this sounds, someone needs to get the offensive coordinators to read egriz. It seems everyone in Griz nation knows that this is one of our biggest problems... trying to be a power-run team up the gut with great but small backs when the o-line simply cannot open any holes at all.

Despite this huge glaring problem, they keep calling the same failed plays OVER AND OVER AND OVER OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

Cmon staff, for the sake of the rest of the season and the remaining games, wake the F up... pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!

 

[mcg]

I was thinking someone could print out ten copies of Brints write up and slide 'em under the doors of the coaches offices tonight. It's pretty right-on.

 

[tnt]

If the Griz would play quarters 1-3 like they play quarter 4, they wouldn't nearly have lost to CalPoly or lost to EWU. This idea of "balance" in the Griz O isn't working. I think that's where the idea of "stubbornness" comes in, this set mentality that the Griz have to be "balanced," regardless of circumstances.

Instead of trying to establish the run to open up the passing game, maybe it should be the reverse. Seems the Griz do far better with more passing and opening up the D. Instead of 50% run & 50% passing, it should be 25% run & 75% passing. Go w/ what's working, not w/ what's not working.

Remember in the last two games the offense looked better late when the other teams softened up thinking they have the game in hand. Once you left off the gas it is hard to get back on.


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Dead on.

 

[Moosehead]

I think we need to go "Air Read" for the rest of the year. We have a really good QB...release the hounds!

 

[Mr. Greenjeans]

Call me crazy, I have a gut feeling that this team wins the next 4 games. Even with all of these question marks and possible injuries. I saw a team that refused to give up the game and fight to the end of this game. We saw the talent that this Griz team has as they came darn close to pulling off the upset. There's a lot of willpower in this group and I think they're going to be looking to vent some frustrations in the week ahead.

You are crazy :thumb: This team is limited by the two worst safeties in the program's history who have not progressed during the years they have started, sub-par coaching, and loss of the winning attitude. Winners win and losers lose... this team's leaders are all from losing programs and this has spread into the Grizzly tradition (see Jordan Tripp at Missoula Big Sky).

Piss off troll

 

[grizbro]

BW touched on it. I think we actually did a pretty good job putting pressure on Shoota. I was actually surprised that he didn't seem as elusive as Johnson.

What game did you watch?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

BW touched on it. I think we actually did a pretty good job putting pressure on Shoota. I was actually surprised that he didn't seem as elusive as Johnson.

What game did you watch?

EWU @ Montana.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

If the Griz would play quarters 1-3 like they play quarter 4, they wouldn't nearly have lost to CalPoly or lost to EWU. This idea of "balance" in the Griz O isn't working. I think that's where the idea of "stubbornness" comes in, this set mentality that the Griz have to be "balanced," regardless of circumstances.

Instead of trying to establish the run to open up the passing game, maybe it should be the reverse. Seems the Griz do far better with more passing and opening up the D. Instead of 50% run & 50% passing, it should be 25% run & 75% passing. Go w/ what's working, not w/ what's not working.

Remember in the last two games the offense looked better late when the other teams softened up thinking they have the game in hand. Once you left off the gas it is hard to get back on.


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I'm pretty sure in no way Cal Poly thought they had the game in hand with a 7-point lead going into our final drive... I do believe we need to pass more. The defenses know we're going to run and they have had great game plans in stopping our run for the most part. But when we open up our quick passes, we become a different offense. I agree with Grizzoola that maybe if we were to add more passes in our game plan instead of relying on our run game to open up our pass game, we will see more improvement in our offense. :twocents:

Obvious Cal Poly went into prevent defense, they really blew it. I agree the Griz need to pass more. Quit worrying about TOP and worry about scoring. JJ seems to play better with a little hurry up offense. NAU defeating Cal Poly makes the BSC even more interesting. Hard to figure out


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[stubbins]

If the Griz would play quarters 1-3 like they play quarter 4, they wouldn't nearly have lost to CalPoly or lost to EWU. This idea of "balance" in the Griz O isn't working. I think that's where the idea of "stubbornness" comes in, this set mentality that the Griz have to be "balanced," regardless of circumstances.

Instead of trying to establish the run to open up the passing game, maybe it should be the reverse. Seems the Griz do far better with more passing and opening up the D. Instead of 50% run & 50% passing, it should be 25% run & 75% passing. Go w/ what's working, not w/ what's not working.

Remember in the last two games the offense looked better late when the other teams softened up thinking they have the game in hand. Once you left off the gas it is hard to get back on.


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I'm pretty sure in no way Cal Poly thought they had the game in hand with a 7-point lead going into our final drive... I do believe we need to pass more. The defenses know we're going to run and they have had great game plans in stopping our run for the most part. But when we open up our quick passes, we become a different offense. I agree with Grizzoola that maybe if we were to add more passes in our game plan instead of relying on our run game to open up our pass game, we will see more improvement in our offense. :twocents:

I agree the Griz need to pass more. Quit worrying about TOP and worry about scoring. JJ seems to play better with a little hurry up offense.

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Dead on