Post game: time to hit the panic button?

[CrunchGriz]

I want to amend my earlier post above about KAY's numbers in the game. He didn't have 4 incompletions that were his fault, he had at most 3. I forgot about the play where the protection broke down and his throwing arm was hit. It was originally called a fumble, but then changed to an incompletion after review.

So missing your intended target on 3 of 30 passes (because of throwing inaccuracy) is hardly a bad game.

The insistence on running into the middle of the line on first down in the second half was the biggest culprit in the second-half doldrums. Receivers not running routes beyond the sticks on third down was another contributing factor.

 

[Namib]

And after some point, averaged 1.3 yards on 3d down, I read.

Yep, pretty depressing.

 

[HikeGlacier]

Question: If every QB threw 63 times in every game they played, how many yards do you think they’d get?

Question #2: Do you think the # of passes had anything to do with their complete inability to run the ball?

I think it had everything to do with our inability to defend the pass, which is why we have one of the worst defenses in the FSC.

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

I think it had everything to do with our inability to defend the pass, which is why we have one of the worst defenses in the FSC.

Impressive that you actually didn't answer either question.

1) Ah Yat averages 9 yards per attempt on the season. If he threw 63 times, that is 569.45 yards passing. If you took just his passing stats vs EWU, he would have thrown for 525 yards even. That's what happens when you throw that much, QBs put up yardage numbers.

2) They had 28 rushing yards. Even if you take out their failed rushes and the sacks, they still only averaged 3.7 yards per carry, which is right up there with the MSU defense you say is so great. The Eagles couldn't get ANYTHING going, so they gave up on it and just started throwing the ball. Same thing the Griz did to Sac State, and they have been running the ball at will on other teams. At some point, if you are only going to rely on statistics and not see the bigger picture, you have to admit that our rush defense is pretty dang good.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Just rewatched the game.

That debacle is on the offense, not the defense. They were on the field almost the entire 2nd half and were bringing it every single play. Offensive play calling was SOOOOOO bad in the 2nd half. 100% Gillman up the middle on first, shitty play call on 2nd, then a pass behind the LOS or well short of the sticks and looking for miracle YAC. To think we had a 12 point lead with 3 minutes to play and almost lost that game…wow. We couldn’t have had 100 yards of offense in the 2nd half.

Yes. The 3d down problem was noted in its own thread during the game and some astute poster said this right after the game. Ha.

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I think it had everything to do with our inability to defend the pass, which is why we have one of the worst defenses in the FSC.

Our D is pretty good. Too bad you don’t know anything about football.

 

[GriznMN]

I re-watched the game today and as stated before, it was usually one person missing an assignment or read that lead to almost all of the ineffectiveness on offense, defense, and special teams. If not for the missed assignments/reads, the Griz would have won by 28+ points. This team is much, much better than last Saturday's final score showed.

 

[Mavman]

Hoops, I respect your faith in the team and concede the sacks, INTs, etc. But the fact of the matter is that the pass D is in the bottom 10% in the FCS and dead last in conference. I don’t know how you can say that’s not a problem. If giving up 451 pass yards is not considered “porous” then you need to redefine the term.

Don’t you have to factor in that with all those yards they still didn’t score a lot? GRIZ kept everything in front didn’t get beat deep and won a game when the offense had a bad day.

 

[billingsgriz]

Don’t you have to factor in that with all those yards they still didn’t score a lot? GRIZ kept everything in front didn’t get beat deep and won a game when the offense had a bad day.

Yes, Eastern only scored 24 points, not 50 or 60, but if you read the posts of the Danny Downers on egriz, you would think Eastern put up 60-70 points on the WA-GRIZ scoreboard. And the Danny Downers love to focus on Eastern's total passing yards, 3rd down conversions, but not the 8 sacks, the 12 TFL's, the two picks, ooints allowed --the fact that Eastern only scored 24 points, the lppsided TOP favoring Eastern by 15 minutes, and who won the game !!!

While our D could have played better--there is always room for improvement, I would give them a B for the game considering this was their 10th consecutive game, they were on the field most of the game, and we're down 4 or 5 DB's.

The time to hit the panic button is in Reno currently where Choate's toothless and lame Wolfpack is 1-8 overall, 0-5 in The Mountain West and not in Missoula, where our tenacious but understandably tired and a little beat up GRIZ are 10-0, and 6-0:Big Sky Conference !!!

 

[mthoopsfan]

Hoops, I respect your faith in the team and concede the sacks, INTs, etc. But the fact of the matter is that the pass D is in the bottom 10% in the FCS and dead last in conference. I don’t know how you can say that’s not a problem. If giving up 451 pass yards is not considered “porous” then you need to redefine the term.

You need to look at the big picture and all factors and stats. Not just a few stats. Not just one game.

Also, giving up a bunch of passing yards on 63 passes, a long of only 33, only 2 passing TD's, getting little help from O in 2d half, keeping the opponent 4-7 in red zone, 2 picks, 8 sacks, modest yards per catch, and winning the game, has to be put into perspective. Neither the season nor that game equate to porous, in my view. Bottom 10% in giving up passing yards doesn't mean the pass D is bottom 10%. You need to look at passing TD's, red zone, yards per catch, sacks, picks, etc.

I have never said it wasn't a problem. You need to look at the other stats. They don't indicate porous. You need to look at the injuries. They aren't all out for the season.

Had the O gotten more first downs in 2d half, the passing yardage would have been much less.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Having the #86 ranked defense might get a win or two in the playoffs but not a semifinal or title game. appearance IMO.

UM beat UND with the 86th ranked D. And UM will beat the Cats.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Agreed, back when I coached I'd tell my guys the best part about ugly wins are yall know how you're gonna get your ass kicked in practice next week (jokingly).

We have things to clean up, with the injuries in the secondary we're going to have to depend on our offense not stalling out and better coaching and play calling to achieve that.

Did your teams ever win a game?

 

[BrownBear9501]

Yes, Eastern only scored 24 points, not 50 or 60, but if you read the posts of the Danny Downers on egriz, you would think Eastern put up 60-70 points on the WA-GRIZ scoreboard. And the Danny Downers love to focus on Eastern's total passing yards, 3rd down conversions, but not the 8 sacks, the 12 TFL's, the two picks, ooints allowed --the fact that Eastern only scored 24 points, the lppsided TOP favoring Eastern by 15 minutes, and who won the game !!!

While our D could have played better--there is always room for improvement, I would give them a B for the game considering this was their 10th consecutive game, they were on the field most of the game, and we're down 4 or 5 DB's.

The time to hit the panic button is in Reno currently where Choate's toothless and lame Wolfpack is 1-8 overall, 0-5 in The Mountain West and not in Missoula, where our tenacious but understandably tired and a little beat up GRIZ are 10-0, and 6-0:Big Sky Conference !!!

Love it…..can’t stand Choate

 

[Ut-Grizfan]

Did your teams ever win a game?

Coached for 3 years before getting deployed, first year had some bumps due to a new system being installed but we still won a few games and then had back to back winning seasons the following 2 years.

Considering we didn't run any Single Wing and I think the forward pass was invented after you played ball I won't bore you with the details.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Coached for 3 years before getting deployed, first year had some bumps due to a new system being installed but we still won a few games and then had back to back winning seasons the following 2 years.

Considering we didn't run any Single Wing and I think the forward pass was invented after you played ball I won't bore you with the details.

Do you think you are funny? Just curious. I suppose you are too young to know that football itself and many of the big advancements and innovations came from the Ivies and its storied coaches. And you probably don’t know that single wing influenced the Wildcat and Spread offenses. And that the first football stadiums were in the Ivies. Nor have you ever played in any of those storied stadiums.

 

[Bison fan in NW MN]

UM beat UND with the 86th ranked D. And UM will beat the Cats.

Should have lost. Cats win the Brawl and Montana will lose in the quarterfinals IMO

 

[EverettGriz]

Should have lost. Cats win the Brawl and Montana will lose in the quarterfinals IMO

You are correct that the beezon should have lost to ND.

 

[Copper Griz]

Should have lost. Cats win the Brawl and Montana will lose in the quarterfinals IMO

An interesting take given Wa Griz is a place the Bison can’t seem to get it done lately. Cats either. Playing in the Mecca of FCS is no picnic.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Some Griz posters hit the panic button in the first quarter today.

 

[AnotherGrizFan]

Do you think you are funny? Just curious. I suppose you are too young to know that football itself and many of the big advancements and innovations came from the Ivies and its storied coaches. And you probably don’t know that single wing influenced the Wildcat and Spread offenses. And that the first football stadiums were in the Ivies. Nor have you ever played in any of those storied stadiums.

Other than in your old, addled mind the ivie's haven't been a significant part of college football in more than half a century and no, this isn't an invitation for you to post your "storied" resume for the 143rd time.
You just can't seem to help yourself and I can't help but feel sorry for you.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Other than in your old, addled mind the ivie's haven't been a significant part of college football in more than half a decade. and no, this isn't an invitation for you to post your "storied" resume for the 143rd time.
You just can't seem to help yourself and I can't help but feel sorry for you.

Half a decade, so 5 years? You're probably right. How dumb are you?