Post game: Stop me if you've heard this before

[grizeyes]

Same S*iT , different day - same s*iT different year. Guys, it's the same thing, year after year......... Very disheartening. I want to believe, but it's getting hard to do.

Backs against the wall now.

Go Griz!

Imagine next year after losing Johnson, Roberts, Flowers, Walker, O'Connell, Welnel, Robby (ok maybe not a big loss in reality), Ford, Alford, Dawson....and if the word is true some good underclassmen fed up and planning on leaving too. This was the year for Bobby to make noise in the playoffs.....and after reality set in they might back in if at all. 5 years and RTD is dead in the water

Agree. A truly wasted opportunity and do believe with the right coaching staff, our record would be at least a couple wins better. I could also see lots of transfers out of this program, I hope not, but I could see it. If things don't get straightened out over the next few games, it could get ugly the next few years.

Go Griz!

 

[mthoopsfan]

Not knocking the kid, he is a Griz after all. But he has not demonstrated that he has the talent to compete at this level. No excuse but is that because of his ability or a product of the offense they let him run. It seems they do not set him up to succeed.

Brown already is completing at this level. Has not had an interception or fumble in two games. That's a huge positive.

 

[Fahque]

Hauck brought in a transfer QB to start, he knew Brown wasn’t the answer because he doesn’t fit the offense. Then he fails to develop the kid or kids who are, and leaves Brown to struggle. I don’t blame Brown. Freshmen don’t play unless you’re down to your fifth or sixth sub, doesn’t matter how talented they are. How many years has it been since they got through the season without needing significant contributions from the backup? Three of the five starters in the o-line are transfers. See a pattern forming? Phen shows up and tells Bobby what he wants to hear, but not what he isn’t doing well. There isn’t a chance in hell this group of receivers is better than one with Akem & Toure in the room, but that’s the crap they’re peddling. Hauck is the problem. Been schooled three games in a row.

It's not Bobby's job to develop the qb, that's the qb coach and the oc. It's his job to make sure they're doing their job. And they're not... we need new oc, qb coach, o Line coach. If we hire good ones that fixes all of our problems

Bobbie is the head coach, it is his job

 

[bobcatOninetails]

The Montana defense played valiantly but had a handful of errors that lead to some big pivotal plays for the opponent. Meanwhile, the Montana offense was unable to find a shred of consistency and put forth a product on the field that couldn’t score points, sustain drives, and leave the defense out to dry and they get worn down and outscored in the 2nd half.

This is 3 weeks in a row that Montana has lost and honestly there’s plenty of spots to discuss.

1. This offense lacks any sort of consistency, identity, and ability to regularly move the ball. Interestingly each of the three losses had different individual “issues”. Idaho, the offense was dead flat and full of errors. Sac, LJ gets knocked out. Weber, Brown looks like a deer in headlights and the wildcat stuff just didn’t really do much. I know there’s going to be the mass “putt in Britt!” calls – I’ve seen them on twitter, in text, and on here. I hear it on the pod. It could be what is needed, sure. But the OL giving up fast pressure on 3 and 4 man rushes and continual 3rd and longs isn’t going to work for any QB. An offense that either doesn’t design or trust Brown to throw the ball further than 10 yards isn’t going to work. An offense with less than 2 yards per carry also is a recipe for disaster. Is there a reason why we don’t send Fontes / Flowers in vertical routes? Or do we and am I just missing it? I’m not a coach, never have been, but I echo the thoughts of many on here. This staff and these players have to want solutions too.
The single biggest issue with this team is the offense is not producing like they should. This was a problem for a while last season that got corrected after a bit. Can that happen this year again? I’m not sure, where do they go from here?
The offense didn’t score in the 2nd half. That is unacceptable. It does feel like more issues are arising each week and damnit that makes this really concerning as a fan.

2. The defense again falls victim one too many times to their over-aggressive nature leading to big blown coverages. I really find myself having a hard time calling this as to “fault” here… but… two big TD plays in the game and… damn… that’s just killer in such a tight game. Last two drives of the game – Weber’s QB is saying it as I type, everyone knew they were running, but couldn’t stop them. I kind of chalk that up to the defense being gassed…

A few things I’ll add:

- Can we please keep in mind that Kris Brown has put in years of dedication into this program please? I recognize that many/most fans want a broad discussion about if it should have been him or Britt today – but please show some class to a guy that’s on our team Griz Nation.

- Malik Flowers is the best kick returner the Griz have ever had and it’s honestly hard to imagine we’ll ever see someone of his specific talent and skill again .

- The wild stuff is that in all 3 of these losses it really does feel like the Griz have beat themselves more than the other team has beat them.

Montana has to win out for the playoffs now. That starts with Cal Poly. They’ve got to stop the bleeding and get things working again asap. This team’s back is to the wall. How will they respond? I know what I can do – show up and support these guys. That’s what I plan to do, I’ll be at Wa Griz this weekend ready to cheer these guys on. Come on Griz, lets get it back in gear! Go Griz!

You are a fabulous poster BW. I love read your post game take always. Win or lose, you always bring great perspective.

What you said about Brown is nothing but class. These kids give their all for both programs. Thanks for sticking up for him.

 

[oldrunner]

Two closely matched teams. The two best Ds in the BSC. A hard fought game all the way.

One team's D was just a little bit better and one team's O was just a little bit better in this game. Results were a 3 point game.

It isn't time yet to make any big declarations. Still three weeks to go in the regular season. Hopefully, we all do well in the playoffs. :clap:

We still have to play them pesky bugs and you still have the bobs on your schedule. :thumb:

 

[RayWill]

8-3 we're in hands down, 7-4 I feel we have a chance but would need some help with other Conferences devouring each other. Also we need a new OC, went to the game and holy shit let's keep running up the Middle when it clearly isn't working.

Don't think so. At 8-3 they are a maybe but still no where near a lock. At 7-4 with losses to every ranked team they played no way are they in. Honestly even at 8-3 someone is gonna have to screw up.

 

[bobcatOninetails]

8-3 we're in hands down, 7-4 I feel we have a chance but would need some help with other Conferences devouring each other. Also we need a new OC, went to the game and holy shit let's keep running up the Middle when it clearly isn't working.

Don't think so. At 8-3 they are a maybe but still no where near a lock. At 7-4 with losses to every ranked team they played no way are they in. Honestly even at 8-3 someone is gonna have to screw up.

The committee can say whatever they want that it isn’t about the money. If the Griz go 7-4, they are in with a first round home game. How things go after is up in the air. Doesn’t matter if UCD is 7-4 as well. Griz still get in. And they should. And they’ll be scary. If they go 8-3 even scarier. I’m one of the few Cat fans who never count you out. And that was so painful to say. So painful.

 

[bobcatOninetails]

8-3 we're in hands down, 7-4 I feel we have a chance but would need some help with other Conferences devouring each other. Also we need a new OC, went to the game and holy shit let's keep running up the Middle when it clearly isn't working.

Don't think so. At 8-3 they are a maybe but still no where near a lock. At 7-4 with losses to every ranked team they played no way are they in. Honestly even at 8-3 someone is gonna have to screw up.

The committee can say whatever they want that it isn’t about the money. If the Griz go 7-4, they are in with a first round home game. How things go after is up in the air. Doesn’t matter if UCD is 7-4 as well. Griz still get in. And they should. And they’ll be scary. If they go 8-3 even scarier. I’m one of the few Cat fans who never count you out. And that was so painful to say. So painful.

 

[Ut-Grizfan]

8-3 we're in hands down, 7-4 I feel we have a chance but would need some help with other Conferences devouring each other. Also we need a new OC, went to the game and holy shit let's keep running up the Middle when it clearly isn't working.

Don't think so. At 8-3 they are a maybe but still no where near a lock. At 7-4 with losses to every ranked team they played no way are they in. Honestly even at 8-3 someone is gonna have to screw up.

8-3 we're in hands down, especially because we'd beat the highly ranked Cats in their house. FCS is watered down outside of the MVFC, CAA and Big Sky. We go 7-4 we will need help from other leagues beating up on each other but even then I see us getting in. Also IC Davis losing 2 games would help.

 

[brewskis]

We’ve made Kris Brown the scapegoat here and perhaps justify so. But the blame goes further. And while on the subject of Kris Brown the coaching staff needs to treat him right. Kris needs to enter the transfer portal. He could probably be a good QB in the Frontier Conference. He has two of the three qualities that make his potential better suited for that level.
We’ve touted the fact that we have one of if not the most tenured and talented coaching staffs in FCS football. So where lies the problem? I was under the impression at the beginning of the year we had 5 quarterbacks? So if Britt is behind Brown and the coaches have no confidence in Britt where does that put the 2 behind Britt? First of all the responsibility goes to the top and that lays at the feet of Bobby Hauck. If I’m Kent I have Bobby in my office tomorrow morning and let him know if he doesn’t fix his problem then he’s on a short string. If the problem is Rosie then fix Rosie.
Which brings us to the bigger question. As a fan base are we so enamored with our past successes that our egos will not allow us to accept the fact that we’re just another good but not great football team? The fact that we have the best football stadium, the best training facility and soon to have an indoor practice facility does not translate to wins on the field. Bobby may think he has a job for life but our fans demand better than he has performed to date. Truth is Bobby needs to get his shit together. And his snide and condescending attitude towards the press needs to take a holiday.
I’m sure I could on longer but my frustrations with our inability to measure up to expectations is a hard pill to swallow.
I think I’ll dial over to the Idaho Sac St, game and witness some creative play calling.

Problem is that Kent is Bobby's little bitch. You wouldn't see Bobby get to treat press conferences, the #37 thing etc the way he has if Ken had any balls because it is an embarrassment to the university. He was pushed to hire Hauck and now is stuck being his little puppy.

Maybe if Bobby cared about our offensive depth and development as much as he cared about the politics of #37 we wouldn’t be staring at a 3 game losing streak.

But what the hell. It’s just tax dollars.

 

[griznative24]

Who was the last really good qb you've had that wasn't a transfer? JJ? Before that?

Brian Ah Yat

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Selle was pretty good

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Man I hate that pass to sideline that goes 1-2 yards forward and what seems like 15-20 yards laterally. It takes forever for it to get there and the defense can just watch it go out there with plenty of time to react. I think we threw it at least twice today. I am guessing there should be blockers out there to protect the guy catching it and give him a chance to advance it? We must have forgot that part or is the receiver expected to make the first guy miss and then advance on his own.

Seems like a poor play to me. Obviously I am not an X’s and O’s guy but seems like short screens and anything over the middle is not in our repertoire.

 

[bigtyme]

gris are the best team with a winning record vs cupcakes. :thumb:

Cats know all about that.

 

[mule]

It is always interesting to come here after a game. Excuses, excuses for not winning. We have good talent but not great talent and just not good enough and the quality teams win games with bad calls, missing starters etc. etc... Great teams can come over adversity, griz just are missing parts to bring home a championship.

Needs to be burned down and start over!!

 

[41>37]

The wild stuff is that in all 3 of these losses it really does feel like the Griz have beat themselves more than the other team has beat them.


This is the most delusional quote ever, get a clue Brint! When you rush for 32 yards or put up 114 yards of total offense you got dominated.

 

[Wolf777]

Great post Brint. I am looking forward to a night game this week, and having fun with friends and family at WGS. The same crew on here that is tearing apart every element of this team is the same group that would be crowing if we catch the right breaks in the last three games.

 

[hubcap]

Not knocking the kid, he is a Griz after all. But he has not demonstrated that he has the talent to compete at this level. No excuse but is that because of his ability or a product of the offense they let him run. It seems they do not set him up to succeed.

Brown already is completing at this level. Has not had an interception or fumble in two games. That's a huge positive.

Are you serious?? He was the QB that produced 114 yards of offense and you say he's competing?? You have reached a level of irrelevance that can only be imagined. For somebody who "played the game" you are an absolute idiot. Wish I had a stat for that for you to chew on. Huge positive.....Seriously, I can't quit laughing at your stupid post. I'll bet you can't wait for QB Club tomorrow so you can report to Bobby how good you were on those Message Boards.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Brown already is completing at this level. Has not had an interception or fumble in two games. That's a huge positive.

Are you serious?? He was the QB that produced 114 yards of offense and you say he's competing?? You have reached a level of irrelevance that can only be imagined. For somebody who "played the game" you are an absolute idiot. Wish I had a stat for that for you to chew on. Huge positive.....Seriously, I can't quit laughing at your stupid post. I'll bet you can't wait for QB Club tomorrow so you can report to Bobby how good you were on those Message Boards.

Brown played and has played at the FCS level. How can you say he hasn't. It was the O that produced so few yards. You are so biased that you can't post or evaluate. All you can say is put in Britt. If he's like you, I hope he goes to the Portal.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Are you serious?? He was the QB that produced 114 yards of offense and you say he's competing?? You have reached a level of irrelevance that can only be imagined. For somebody who "played the game" you are an absolute idiot. Wish I had a stat for that for you to chew on. Huge positive.....Seriously, I can't quit laughing at your stupid post. I'll bet you can't wait for QB Club tomorrow so you can report to Bobby how good you were on those Message Boards.

Brown played and has played at the FCS level. How can you say he hasn't. It was the O that produced so few yards. You are so biased that you can't post or evaluate. All you can say is put in Britt. If he's like you, I hope he goes to the Portal.

Playing at the FCS level and competing at the FCS level are two entirely different things.