I haven't worked through the numbers because I really don't care, but Eastern had Oregon and Northern Iowa as its first two opponents, whereas the Wombats chose to play two high school teams. If both of those sets of games were taken out, EWU would have better defensive stats than the Wombats, not that its a real controversy battling between 11th and 12th place.doc3kgt said:EWU's defense is rated worse than the Cats. Nice try though. Cat's D looked good today. Held pokey scoreless for over 2 quarters.
FCSwatcher said:grizaremoregooder said:EWU played a hell of a lot tougher non-conference schedule than MSU. As far as "ratings" go the Cat defense is putrid. Pointing to "looking good" against a 2-8 Idaho St. team is a joke. Idaho St. had over 400 yards of offense and averaged over 6 yards a carry on your defense. The Griz are going to score 40 or 50 next week in Blowzman the cats haven't scored 40 against the Griz since 1985. They have won 3 times there in thirty years! All things point to a blow out win for the Griz next week that stadium will be maroon and silver only in the 4th quarter.doc3kgt said:rocklobster said:But with a MSU has a worse defense.
EWU's defense is rated worse than the Cats. Nice try though. Cat's D looked good today. Held pokey scoreless for over 2 quarters.
Look at both sides Compare ISU games between MSU and Um only a week apart. One barely wins and the other destroys the team, giving up less points.
Now look at the downward trend of Eastern.
Won by 2 over UNC
Won by 1 over Weber, only scoring 14
Lost by 22 to NAU-4turnovers
Crushed by Montana 6 turnovers
10 turnovers total the last two games
Big win, but not over the same team as the beginning of the year. Looking at the game stats pretty close, except for TO
The question is what happened to Eastern? What caused this downward spiral?
UMGriz75 said:I haven't worked through the numbers because I really don't care, but Eastern had Oregon and Northern Iowa as its first two opponents, whereas the Wombats chose to play two high school teams. If both of those sets of games were taken out, EWU would have better defensive stats than the Wombats, not that its a real controversy battling between 11th and 12th place.doc3kgt said:EWU's defense is rated worse than the Cats. Nice try though. Cat's D looked good today. Held pokey scoreless for over 2 quarters.
AZGrizFan said:FCSwatcher said:grizaremoregooder said:EWU played a hell of a lot tougher non-conference schedule than MSU. As far as "ratings" go the Cat defense is putrid. Pointing to "looking good" against a 2-8 Idaho St. team is a joke. Idaho St. had over 400 yards of offense and averaged over 6 yards a carry on your defense. The Griz are going to score 40 or 50 next week in Blowzman the cats haven't scored 40 against the Griz since 1985. They have won 3 times there in thirty years! All things point to a blow out win for the Griz next week that stadium will be maroon and silver only in the 4th quarter.doc3kgt said:EWU's defense is rated worse than the Cats. Nice try though. Cat's D looked good today. Held pokey scoreless for over 2 quarters.
Look at both sides Compare ISU games between MSU and Um only a week apart. One barely wins and the other destroys the team, giving up less points.
Now look at the downward trend of Eastern.
Won by 2 over UNC
Won by 1 over Weber, only scoring 14
Lost by 22 to NAU-4turnovers
Crushed by Montana 6 turnovers
10 turnovers total the last two games
Big win, but not over the same team as the beginning of the year. Looking at the game stats pretty close, except for TO
The question is what happened to Eastern? What caused this downward spiral?
What about the UND team that destroyed MSU the week after we destroyed THEM?
Let's keep going, this is fun....
[/quote]jodcon said:UMGriz75 said:Starts during recruiting season, when the Wombats have these lists of "must have" in-state recruits, talk among themselves about how they always "beat" Montana for the best recruits and then as they lose their "must-haves" one-by-one, every kid they do manage to hoodwink becomes another one that Montana "lost" to the Bats, all-the-while pretending they didn't just lose most of the "must haves." It isn't a fan base over there, it's a fully delusional community of people for whom reality is something, adjusted every day, in relation to the Griz.Umista said:Funny how all the chest thumping starts every summer and the tempo continues to rise into early fall and then it becomes time to face the facts. Of course they need to get rolled by Montana Griz to figure it all out.
Here's the routine...
Jan-Feb - Greatest recruiting class ever, next big thing, yada yada yada
March-April - Best looking spring ball ever, loaded everywhere, yada yada yada
May-August - Can't wait for fall, Griz won't make the playoffs, talent to get to Frisco, yada yada yada
Sept-Oct - Told you we were good, we're kicking everyone's ass, Big Sky is ours now, yada yada yada
Early Nov - WTF happened, we're barely beating shit teams and losing a couple, still going to beat the Griz and be ok though, no more yada
Late Nov - f*** we suck, this is embarrassing, Ash is an idiot, I hate football.
Dec - Did you hear about the new recruits, I think next year is going to be awesome?!
Again and again.
[/quote]jodcon said:UMGriz75 said:Starts during recruiting season, when the Wombats have these lists of "must have" in-state recruits, talk among themselves about how they always "beat" Montana for the best recruits and then as they lose their "must-haves" one-by-one, every kid they do manage to hoodwink becomes another one that Montana "lost" to the Bats, all-the-while pretending they didn't just lose most of the "must haves." It isn't a fan base over there, it's a fully delusional community of people for whom reality is something, adjusted every day, in relation to the Griz.Umista said:Funny how all the chest thumping starts every summer and the tempo continues to rise into early fall and then it becomes time to face the facts. Of course they need to get rolled by Montana Griz to figure it all out.
Here's the routine...
Jan-Feb - Greatest recruiting class ever, next big thing, yada yada yada
March-April - Best looking spring ball ever, loaded everywhere, yada yada yada
May-August - Can't wait for fall, Griz won't make the playoffs, talent to get to Frisco, yada yada yada
Sept-Oct - Told you we were good, we're kicking everyone's ass, Big Sky is ours now, yada yada yada
Early Nov - WTF happened, we're barely beating shit teams and losing a couple, still going to beat the Griz and be ok though, no more yada
Late Nov - f*** we suck, this is embarrassing, Ash is an idiot, I hate football.
Dec - Did you hear about the new recruits, I think next year is going to be awesome?!
Again and again.
FCSwatcher said:grizaremoregooder said:EWU played a hell of a lot tougher non-conference schedule than MSU. As far as "ratings" go the Cat defense is putrid. Pointing to "looking good" against a 2-8 Idaho St. team is a joke. Idaho St. had over 400 yards of offense and averaged over 6 yards a carry on your defense. The Griz are going to score 40 or 50 next week in Blowzman the cats haven't scored 40 against the Griz since 1985. They have won 3 times there in thirty years! All things point to a blow out win for the Griz next week that stadium will be maroon and silver only in the 4th quarter.doc3kgt said:rocklobster said:But with a MSU has a worse defense.
EWU's defense is rated worse than the Cats. Nice try though. Cat's D looked good today. Held pokey scoreless for over 2 quarters.
Look at both sides Compare ISU games between MSU and Um only a week apart. One barely wins and the other destroys the team, giving up less points.
Now look at the downward trend of Eastern.
Won by 2 over UNC
Won by 1 over Weber, only scoring 14
Lost by 22 to NAU-4turnovers
Crushed by Montana 6 turnovers
10 turnovers total the last two games
Big win, but not over the same team as the beginning of the year. Looking at the game stats pretty close, except for TO
The question is what happened to Eastern? What caused this downward spiral?
get'em_griz said:FCSwatcher said:doc3kgt said:grizaremoregooder said:EWU played a hell of a lot tougher non-conference schedule than MSU. As far as "ratings" go the Cat defense is putrid. Pointing to "looking good" against a 2-8 Idaho St. team is a joke. Idaho St. had over 400 yards of offense and averaged over 6 yards a carry on your defense. The Griz are going to score 40 or 50 next week in Blowzman the cats haven't scored 40 against the Griz since 1985. They have won 3 times there in thirty years! All things point to a blow out win for the Griz next week that stadium will be maroon and silver only in the 4th quarter.
They are still not a good defense, no doubt. I'm just saying that they played consistently better, and on the road...which hasn't happened yet. You boys are touchy over here.
Compare the ISU games, and they look pretty damn equal
Also if you compare the ISU games, you'll see Montana played their 3rd-string QB and MSU played their 1st-string QB.
doc3kgt said:rocklobster said:AZGrizFan said:statler & waldorf said:Stubbins, ever heard the adage about the chickens and the eggs. Wait, no I guess you didn't. Hauck, Pflugrad, and Delaney all lost their first Brawl. To update you, DON'T COUNT YOUR CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HATCH. Seven more days before we know whether its two in a row or four in a row. Spent too much time at the tailgates?
These are two football teams going in completely opposite directions.
I believe it's possible next week looks a LOT like today, with MSU playing the part of EWU.
But with a MSU has a worse defense.
EWU's defense is rated worse than the Cats. Nice try though. Cat's D looked good today. Held pokey scoreless for over 2 quarters.
BWahlberg said:Typing this from McP's in San Diego. I'll be quick as its time to celebrate. This was such a solid win for the Griz.
- the defense bent but didn't break. Great effort and forced turnovers, scored points, and punched EWU in the mouth. That had to feel good for so many of our seniors on defense that have felt the pain of so many recent losses to EWU. Holmes was a beast today. Sanders had an incredible rebound game. Nelson gets better every week.
- Welcome back Brady Gustafson. Did you notice how complex the offense became again? Suddenly third downs were converted, we're scoring TDs in the redone... And on the ground since EWU had to respect the pass! Great plays by Gus and our WRs and an awesome game from our O line.
- it wasn't all perfect. Too many lost fumbles and too often the WRs and Gus weren't on page. Got to improve that for the cat game.
Bob Stitt out coached Beau Baldwin, the Griz out played Eastern and we're a win away from the post season.
Go Griz!
kemajic said:MSU does not have a quality win this year and in spite of scheduling two cupcakes can go to 5-6.
doc3kgt said:kemajic said:MSU does not have a quality win this year and in spite of scheduling two cupcakes can go to 5-6.
Absolutely, I completely agree with you about going 5-6. Cal Poly was a quality win, they are better than their record indicates. You can look at the record and say that MSU is a shitty team, but they have been in every game they have played. The defense is the weakness of MSU obviously. All I was saying in my previous posts is that the defense actually played well last week. I'm not saying that will continue, or that MSU will win the brawl, it's just a facts based observation.