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Post game: 9-3

kemajic said:
RobGriz said:
One of Bobby’s biggest knocks has been that he can’t get the team ready for big games. His teams that went to natty’s his first stint here would come out fired up during the playoffs and steamroll the opposition. They did it to most of the cat teams then as well. Than we’d hit the Natty and he would treat it like “just another game”, but the other team came out ready to rip off our heads and shit down our throats, grab momentum early and beat us soundly. I got that same exact feeling today. The cats came out fired up, grabbed momentum early and stomped the shit out of the Griz. There’s no such thing as “just another game”. I understand trying to keep emotions in check but today’s game was a prime example of what happens when it’s “just another game” to one team and the single most important thing in the world to the other. Just my $.02
On to the playoffs
BS; not worth $0.02. The teams that beat us in the NC games were better teams. MSU today was a better team. That simple without all the blame game.

Not blaming and don’t misunderstand, I’m a bigtime Hauck fan and I actually totally understand the psychology behind what he did. I just don’t necessarily agree with it
 
Cuervohola said:
People were whining at me for complaining about the refs, but MSU was holding all game, and the epic tackle of Toure... Then they were whining when I pointed out how Bobby is coaching horribly this year.

I have NEVER seen a team pull the Safeties up to the line constantly like that. They have all year, and MSU saw that on film, for their speedy RB to take advantage of.

How many times did they throw at Nash? You don't if you can throw at Calhoun, who is timid because he will get flagged all day if he tries to play by the BSC refs.

Everybody knows the Pac 12 refs call shit plays against the Griz, but the BSC refs are great? They are blind as bats, while the Pac 12 refs are just biased.

Then you have Bobby, who has as much passion and emotion as Mr. Rogers. The Griz need a LEADER, an on Field Drill Sergeant that will get in the refs faces, get in his coaches faces, and get in his players faces. It seems like he's just trying to make friends.

He is used to the sandbox down South. Time to send him back, because he isn't the same Bobby that was here before. He got baked in Nevada and lost it. He doesn't have any drive.
Yeah, 9-3 and playoff spot really deserves the BS you dish out. Go crawl in a hole.
 
grizghost said:
..Roberts played well but we will have to elevate the safeties position..im still not sure if Robby is
big enough to stop a power team..he is a baller but seemed to be lost on plays and expose to the run
and just doesn't have the size..not just blaming just him either we got an beat down!
The game was won and lost at the line of scrimmage - both sides. What game did you watch?
 
RobGriz said:
George Ferguson said:
RobGriz said:
IslandGriz said:
The Griz have the speed, strength, talent and technique to win any game. However I don’t know if too much emphasis can be put on emotion. The Griz were sorely lacking in that area. I have pretty much hated the cats starting 47 years ago when my cousin played basketball for them. Bobby Hauck getting on the radio, tv and interviews preaching we’re all friends, let’s just get along did not change the way I feel in the slightest. Did he expect our players to make plans during the game to sit around a campfire with cat players and sing kun ba yah after the game? The Griz were not pumped up and I dare say neither were the coaches after Hauck’s comments this past week. They looked like they we’re playing a gentleman’s tennis game from 100 years ago. I can guarantee you Choate was telling his players to rip our heads off and leave blood on the field. I can say this even though I wasn’t in the locker room because that is how the played. Hauck said the rivalry was not fun any more. I wonder how much fun he was having in the 4th quarter? I think Bobby is a great coach and the ship will be righted now that he has learned a painful lesson.

Totally agree with this.

I was on the Griz sideline all game. This is not true. Emotionally, the Griz were fine. They were jacked up. They were hyped like they are every game. They physically got their ass kicked by a much more physcial team. That's undeniable. But it didn't have jack to do with what BH said last Monday, They players were plenty emotionally up. The Cats beat the s--t out of them. And as the game wore on, yes, it took its toll, but, emotionally they were hyped up for much of the game, or else the things being said on the sidelines, ect. those kids must be really good actors.

I will take your word for it. They just did not seem like they were not on the same level as last week. Actually seemed to be the polar opposite.

Like I said, they were into the game emotionally. Bobby thought some of the younger kids didn't handle the atmosphere and their first time in the game very well, and he also said in his presser that he felt they weren't as ready as they needed to be. I think that was more preparedness than emotion. He took full blame for that. But as far as the emotions of the game, I don;t think the Griz' demeanor at least through the third quarter was any different than it's been all season. As the outcome became inevitable, sure, it started to show on the sidelines, but for most of the game, from what I observed, there was plenty of fire on the Griz, including Bobby, at least the kind you guys are talking about. Did it translate to playing good? No. Did the Cats and their fans have more? Obviously.
 
PAGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PAGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
You should change your name to #1StittFan

You should change your name bobby’s#2Fluffer

Bobby’s#1Fluffer is already taken by Playerrep

It’s amazing the whiny cry babies on here. It’s the Dlines fault, we do have the right players on the Dline, the Dline is tough enough, the DLine doesn’t have depth.....it’s all B.S.

They have plenty of depth and the have real Football dudes on that line.

It’s the scheme. Everyone knows what state was gonna do. You don’t even have to know football to know you should put 8 in the box against them and make you beat you with the pass.

I know, Stitt had a much better scheme, one that he used during his 9 win season.

Just a couple of points. 12 game schedule to get to 9.

Stitt never lost like this to MSU


What appeared to be a a difficult schedule turned out to be not so difficult.


2017 team was 7-4 and played 7 of the last 8 games with a back up red shirt freshman QB and the 8th with a WR at QB. That would doom any team.

All the crap stitt gets on here I suggest you look around this team and think about what this team looks like without the guys stitt brought in.
I look around and think about how Dante Olson wasn't good enough to play other than special teams with Stitt's teams. Only then because he didn't care about special teams.

You say the schedule wasn't difficult; the experts with the algorithms say it was. Possibly you missed USD beating SDSU today and what Monmouth has been doing. But yeah, Weber and SacSt were real weak, as was MSU. You're a Never-Haucker idiot.
 
George Ferguson said:
RobGriz said:
George Ferguson said:
RobGriz said:
Totally agree with this.

I was on the Griz sideline all game. This is not true. Emotionally, the Griz were fine. They were jacked up. They were hyped like they are every game. They physically got their ass kicked by a much more physcial team. That's undeniable. But it didn't have jack to do with what BH said last Monday, They players were plenty emotionally up. The Cats beat the s--t out of them. And as the game wore on, yes, it took its toll, but, emotionally they were hyped up for much of the game, or else the things being said on the sidelines, ect. those kids must be really good actors.

I will take your word for it. They just did not seem like they were not on the same level as last week. Actually seemed to be the polar opposite.

Like I said, they were into the game emotionally. Bobby thought some of the younger kids didn't handle the atmosphere and their first time in the game very well, and he also said in his presser that he felt they weren't as ready as they needed to be. I think that was more preparedness than emotion. He took full blame for that. But as far as the emotions of the game, I don;t think the Griz' demeanor at least through the third quarter was any different than it's been all season. As the outcome became inevitable, sure, it started to show on the sidelines, but for most of the game, from what I observed, there was plenty of fire on the Griz, including Bobby, at least the kind you guys are talking about. Did it translate to playing good? No. Did the Cats and their fans have more? Obviously.

Thanks!
 
PAGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PAGriz said:
Let’s be real. When people were saying 6 or 7 wins that was based the expectation that teams like UCD and EW were going to be very good. The were not.
Griz have a quality win against Weber. I said before you can throw out these rivalry games. That was before this. This was an absolute demolition.

Headline tomorrow......

“Griz team buses stop at Bozeman Emergency room. Hauck has rape kit done. After DNA test warrant issued for Choate’s arrest”

You should change your name to #1StittFan

You should change your name bobby’s#2Fluffer

Bobby’s#1Fluffer is already taken by Playerrep

It’s amazing the whiny cry babies on here. It’s the Dlines fault, we do have the right players on the Dline, the Dline is tough enough, the DLine doesn’t have depth.....it’s all B.S.

They have plenty of depth and the have real Football dudes on that line.

It’s the scheme. Everyone knows what state was gonna do. You don’t even have to know football to know you should put 8 in the box against them and make you beat you with the pass.
It's not scheme when you are physically beaten on both sides of the line of scrimmage. Winning there makes all schemes look good. The only BS is what you're spewing.
 
kemajic said:
PAGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PAGriz said:
You should change your name bobby’s#2Fluffer

Bobby’s#1Fluffer is already taken by Playerrep

It’s amazing the whiny cry babies on here. It’s the Dlines fault, we do have the right players on the Dline, the Dline is tough enough, the DLine doesn’t have depth.....it’s all B.S.

They have plenty of depth and the have real Football dudes on that line.

It’s the scheme. Everyone knows what state was gonna do. You don’t even have to know football to know you should put 8 in the box against them and make you beat you with the pass.

I know, Stitt had a much better scheme, one that he used during his 9 win season.

Just a couple of points. 12 game schedule to get to 9.

Stitt never lost like this to MSU


What appeared to be a a difficult schedule turned out to be not so difficult.


2017 team was 7-4 and played 7 of the last 8 games with a back up red shirt freshman QB and the 8th with a WR at QB. That would doom any team.

All the crap stitt gets on here I suggest you look around this team and think about what this team looks like without the guys stitt brought in.
I look around and think about how Dante Olson wasn't good enough to play other than special teams with Stitt's teams. Only then because he didn't care about special teams.

You say the schedule wasn't difficult; the experts with the algorithms say it was. Possibly you missed USD beating SDSU today and what Monmouth has been doing. But yeah, Weber and SacSt were real weak, as was MSU. You're a Never-Haucker idiot.

So who should he have started in place of?
 
Fahque said:
kemajic said:
PAGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I know, Stitt had a much better scheme, one that he used during his 9 win season.

Just a couple of points. 12 game schedule to get to 9.

Stitt never lost like this to MSU


What appeared to be a a difficult schedule turned out to be not so difficult.


2017 team was 7-4 and played 7 of the last 8 games with a back up red shirt freshman QB and the 8th with a WR at QB. That would doom any team.

All the crap stitt gets on here I suggest you look around this team and think about what this team looks like without the guys stitt brought in.
I look around and think about how Dante Olson wasn't good enough to play other than special teams with Stitt's teams. Only then because he didn't care about special teams.

You say the schedule wasn't difficult; the experts with the algorithms say it was. Possibly you missed USD beating SDSU today and what Monmouth has been doing. But yeah, Weber and SacSt were real weak, as was MSU. You're a Never-Haucker idiot.

So who should he have started in place of?
Vika cannot carry his jock, nor could he two years ago, yet he was in the LB rotation; Olson was not. Dante was the ST POTY with his return tackling. Buss and Banks were good, but Strahm was overrated as a senior. As a junior and senior Olson is the best LB we've seen; but he wasn't good enough as a sophomore to even be in the LB rotation? Semore…...
 
RobGriz said:
George Ferguson said:
RobGriz said:
George Ferguson said:
I was on the Griz sideline all game. This is not true. Emotionally, the Griz were fine. They were jacked up. They were hyped like they are every game. They physically got their ass kicked by a much more physcial team. That's undeniable. But it didn't have jack to do with what BH said last Monday, They players were plenty emotionally up. The Cats beat the s--t out of them. And as the game wore on, yes, it took its toll, but, emotionally they were hyped up for much of the game, or else the things being said on the sidelines, ect. those kids must be really good actors.

I will take your word for it. They just did not seem like they were not on the same level as last week. Actually seemed to be the polar opposite.

Like I said, they were into the game emotionally. Bobby thought some of the younger kids didn't handle the atmosphere and their first time in the game very well, and he also said in his presser that he felt they weren't as ready as they needed to be. I think that was more preparedness than emotion. He took full blame for that. But as far as the emotions of the game, I don;t think the Griz' demeanor at least through the third quarter was any different than it's been all season. As the outcome became inevitable, sure, it started to show on the sidelines, but for most of the game, from what I observed, there was plenty of fire on the Griz, including Bobby, at least the kind you guys are talking about. Did it translate to playing good? No. Did the Cats and their fans have more? Obviously.

Thanks!

George, I’m in no position to disagree with you because I didn’t have the privilege of being on the sideline. But if it was not the intangible - meaning emotionally ready, aren’t you conceding if we play them again in the playoffs, the results will be the same? I just can’t accept that. Between now and the next few weeks the Griz won’t get any faster or stronger, though there should be some improvement in their techniques.
 
IslandGriz said:
RobGriz said:
George Ferguson said:
RobGriz said:
I will take your word for it. They just did not seem like they were not on the same level as last week. Actually seemed to be the polar opposite.

Like I said, they were into the game emotionally. Bobby thought some of the younger kids didn't handle the atmosphere and their first time in the game very well, and he also said in his presser that he felt they weren't as ready as they needed to be. I think that was more preparedness than emotion. He took full blame for that. But as far as the emotions of the game, I don;t think the Griz' demeanor at least through the third quarter was any different than it's been all season. As the outcome became inevitable, sure, it started to show on the sidelines, but for most of the game, from what I observed, there was plenty of fire on the Griz, including Bobby, at least the kind you guys are talking about. Did it translate to playing good? No. Did the Cats and their fans have more? Obviously.

Thanks!

George, I’m in no position to disagree with you because I didn’t have the privilege of being on the sideline. But if it was not the intangible - meaning emotionally ready, aren’t you conceding if we play them again in the playoffs, the results will be the same? I just can’t accept that. Between now and the next few weeks the Griz won’t get any faster or stronger, though there should be some improvement in their techniques.

The way the Cats run the ball, they'll be a tough out going forward period. PLus, should get Troy back. What I saw today, especially with how banged up the Griz really are, yes, I think the Griz would have a tough time in a rematch, but it's not just the Griz, again, I think MSU will give a lotta teams big problems because of theIr OL AND DL.
 
Having read this I have a few observations from the game.

Watching your sideline, I did not see the "fire in the belly" to come back, except for Sneed, he was a warrior

fizz didn't rotate players much, reminded me of an Ash coached team that didn't have any depth.

Game was won and lost in the trenches

Olson is a beast, but he didn't get to the ball until is was 5-7 yards downfield

Robby Hauck looks really small out there, he got burned by being out of position many many times

I believed the Cats would win, but didn't see a beatdown like this coming.

I'm really glad JLM is finally graduating, kid has been an absolute stud for 4 years.
 
George Ferguson said:
IslandGriz said:
RobGriz said:
George Ferguson said:
Like I said, they were into the game emotionally. Bobby thought some of the younger kids didn't handle the atmosphere and their first time in the game very well, and he also said in his presser that he felt they weren't as ready as they needed to be. I think that was more preparedness than emotion. He took full blame for that. But as far as the emotions of the game, I don;t think the Griz' demeanor at least through the third quarter was any different than it's been all season. As the outcome became inevitable, sure, it started to show on the sidelines, but for most of the game, from what I observed, there was plenty of fire on the Griz, including Bobby, at least the kind you guys are talking about. Did it translate to playing good? No. Did the Cats and their fans have more? Obviously.

Thanks!

George, I’m in no position to disagree with you because I didn’t have the privilege of being on the sideline. But if it was not the intangible - meaning emotionally ready, aren’t you conceding if we play them again in the playoffs, the results will be the same? I just can’t accept that. Between now and the next few weeks the Griz won’t get any faster or stronger, though there should be some improvement in their techniques.

The way the Cats run the ball, they'll be a tough out going forward period. PLus, should get Troy back. What I saw today, especially with how banged up the Griz really are, yes, I think the Griz would have a tough time in a rematch, but it's not just the Griz, again, I think MSU will give a lotta teams big problems because of theIr OL AND DL.

The rumble that I heard is that Troy is done for the season.
 
PlayerRep said:
The Cats are way better now than they were when Stitt’s teams played them. Cats are 9-3. Just like Griz.

Underrated post here. The cat's O & D lines were damn impressive. Collectively, as units, I don't remember better unit line play from the cats. Maybe a couple of those D lines 8-10 years ago. Say what you will about Moobzy, he has done an impressive job of recruiting and developing those trench players. Fucker.
 
This is a game that got away from Montana very similar to the way Weber saw the game slip away a week earlier. The Griz gave up a quick 17 points and then failed to capitalize on the opportunities to close the gap.
The defense gave the Griz exactly what was needed to get back in the game in the third quarter. The offense didn't respond.
It's frustrating the way Montana has lost to two FCS teams. It's only two in a rather tough schedule. Really this is the schedule most similar to Stitt's last season and the record is better. What's similar is how poorly prepared the team was in the year of Stitt's big losses and this one.
That Sac loss, in which the Griz O line failed to protect Sneed, resulting in his getting hurt and missing a few games, is really on par with the 2017 Griz failing to protect Jensen at Weber state.
So what to do about it? Is the 3-3-5 a scheme Montana should be using against power run teams? Does the roster have the larger NT and DEs necessary to advance the scheme in Bob's third year?
Is the O Line going to take another big step forward in 2020? It needs to. Those starters aren't small, but when they are at their best, they get by.
Bob's third season starts in a few weeks. He looks like he will be 1 for three against MSU if he's lucky, maybe 0 for 3. Next year's schedule looks easier. Weber is out, there's a D2 team and no FBS game. Beating MSU and Sac will be the biggest challenges. If Hauck isn't 10-2 there a good argument that the team has lost ground.
 
Bobby had a comment after the game about only finding out about Troy Andersen being out the night before, which he said meant that his team practiced a lot of the week concentrating on stopping someone that wasn't going to play.

This may be true, and if it is, it would sort of make sense as to why the team looked so lost on D all day.

That said, if it is true, it's kind of unbelievable that our staff would spend so much time game-planning for one guy when everybody and their dog knew MSU was going to run it with 5 or 6 different guys running the show.

So either it was a really bad excuse, or a pretty damn inexcusable lack of judgment in their preparation for this game.

Honestly I don't know which is worse.
 
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
AZGrizFan said:
fanofzoo said:
IF we get 12,000 to the game I'll be amazed.

Bw that is one hell of a bump, more like the road is gone.

This was the worst loss I have seen and I have been watching since "75"

You apparently didn’t watch the playoff game against NDSU in ‘15.

I remember a road game at W. Illinois that was pretty ugly.

It’s hilarious how much people put on ONE game.

Agreed! Last week it was all praise for Bobby and the Griz, for how improved the team is since the Sac St loss; and now we got a bunch of Queen of Heart's (or Queen's of Heart, maybe) running around, yelling "Off with his head!" It's one stinking game, and the Griz are in the playoffs. They should have a seed-hopefully-and are gonna get a week to prepare for the next game. Get over the loss, and be a fan-instead of a whining, little, baby fanatic, and cheer for the student athletes who work their asses off, so you can judge their weekly performance.
 
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