poole update

[PlayerRep]

Were either of the other two people arrested the guy selling the drug? Did anyone look them up on the arrest report?

If neither was the seller, why would the police arrest the buyer, and not the seller? Is buying a bigger deal than selling? Was the seller a police informant? If so, entrapment?

Do the police have the two pills? That wasn't mentioned in the very short affidavit.

Assuming it's true that he had 2 pills and he admitted that he bought them, what's the penalty? I wonder how many people in Missoula have ever been charged with felony possession for having 2 pills? I wonder if anyone has ever been convicted of a 2-pill felony?

If it wasn't Missoula (under scrutiny) and he wasn't a football player, I can't imagine he would even be charged with felony. This should be a diversion if Poole hasn't been in other serious criminal trouble (say you're sorry and won't do it again, do some education, be good for X period of time, and the charge goes off his record).

Mr. Ryan (I assume Paul Ryan) is his attorney. Ryan is a very good criminal attorney. Released without any bail. Has had not prior criminal issues. Was cooperative with law enforcement.

My guess is that he has a reasonable chance of playing (or ought to have the chance) for the Griz in the future, but, of course, not this year.

Society generally doesn't, and shouldn't, convict/force a felony on a college kid who bought drugs at a big party, who hasn't been in trouble previously, and who was cooperative. Big mistake, of course, but having been around in the late 60's and early 70's, I'm not so sure that buying/consuming a small amount of recreational drugs is the biggest crime on earth nor a felony.

Note that the Kalispell Bobcat kid was initially charged with 2 felonies (I believe) for making and selling a few marijuana brownies on high school graduation night. I believe the charges were reduced to a misdemeanor(s). Note that I supported the Kalispell kid similarly, just like I supported the Bobcat kid he punched someone at the Garden Bar.

for someone who claims to be a lawyer you sure are a %*$(#*@* retard. sting operations are not entrapment dumbass.

Can we get an explanation from someone who knows what they're talking about please?? Anyone??

From Wiki: "For example, if a defendant had purchased illegal drugs from an undercover officer, he may be found not guilty if it is determined that the officer initiated the transaction or aggressively pressed the accused to complete it." Thus, if an undercover agent asks a kid if he wants some molly, it's entrapment.

 

[Griz-O-Matic]

Even if he wanted to buy some Mollys, & he thought he was buying Mollys?

 

[Griz2k]

Maybe they were breath mints and this whole thing is just one big misunderstanding. :thumb:

 

[msuhunter]

Were either of the other two people arrested the guy selling the drug? Did anyone look them up on the arrest report?

If neither was the seller, why would the police arrest the buyer, and not the seller? Is buying a bigger deal than selling? Was the seller a police informant? If so, entrapment?

Do the police have the two pills? That wasn't mentioned in the very short affidavit.

Assuming it's true that he had 2 pills and he admitted that he bought them, what's the penalty? I wonder how many people in Missoula have ever been charged with felony possession for having 2 pills? I wonder if anyone has ever been convicted of a 2-pill felony?

If it wasn't Missoula (under scrutiny) and he wasn't a football player, I can't imagine he would even be charged with felony. This should be a diversion if Poole hasn't been in other serious criminal trouble (say you're sorry and won't do it again, do some education, be good for X period of time, and the charge goes off his record).

Mr. Ryan (I assume Paul Ryan) is his attorney. Ryan is a very good criminal attorney. Released without any bail. Has had not prior criminal issues. Was cooperative with law enforcement.

My guess is that he has a reasonable chance of playing (or ought to have the chance) for the Griz in the future, but, of course, not this year.

Society generally doesn't, and shouldn't, convict/force a felony on a college kid who bought drugs at a big party, who hasn't been in trouble previously, and who was cooperative. Big mistake, of course, but having been around in the late 60's and early 70's, I'm not so sure that buying/consuming a small amount of recreational drugs is the biggest crime on earth nor a felony.

Note that the Kalispell Bobcat kid was initially charged with 2 felonies (I believe) for making and selling a few marijuana brownies on high school graduation night. I believe the charges were reduced to a misdemeanor(s). Note that I supported the Kalispell kid similarly, just like I supported the Bobcat kid he punched someone at the Garden Bar.

for someone who claims to be a lawyer you sure are a %*$(#*@* retard. sting operations are not entrapment dumbass.

Can we get an explanation from someone who knows what they're talking about please?? Anyone??

From Wiki: "For example, if a defendant had purchased illegal drugs from an undercover officer, he may be found not guilty if it is determined that the officer initiated the transaction or aggressively pressed the accused to complete it." Thus, if an undercover agent asks a kid if he wants some molly, it's entrapment.

 

[Geddes]

This appears to be the wrong time to ask anyone if they want to roll with me tomorrow..

Just kidding..drugs are bad, mkay..

 

[Griz-O-Matic]

This appears to be the wrong time to ask anyone if they want to roll with me tomorrow..

Just kidding..drugs are bad, mkay..

See you at 4:20....... :ugeek:

 

[PlayerRep]

Found this on the internet for CA:

"A person convicted of possessing a personal use amount of MDMA in California faces a maximum of 1 year in the county jail or state prison. It is almost unheard of for a judge to actually impose such harsh sentence. If the person meets six criteria the prosecutor is required to refer the case to Diversion. The six criteria for Diversion are:

(1) The defendant has no conviction for any offense involving controlled substances prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(2) The offense charged did not involve a crime of violence or threatened violence.

(3) There is no evidence of a violation relating to narcotics or restricted dangerous drugs other than a violation of the sections listed in this subdivision.

(4) The defendant's record does not indicate that probation or parole has ever been revoked without thereafter being completed.

(5) The defendant's record does not indicate that he or she has successfully completed or been terminated from diversion or deferred entry of judgment pursuant to this chapter within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(6) The defendant has no prior felony conviction within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.


If a person is eligible for Diversion they are able to enter a conditional plea of guilty and if they then successfully complete the diversion program (usually “drug education” classes) the plea is set aside. This means that they do not receive a criminal record.
Source(s):
Center for Cognitive Liberty"

 

[Griz-O-Matic]

PR, were you at the rave?

 

[PTGrizzly]

Found this on the internet for CA:

"A person convicted of possessing a personal use amount of MDMA in California faces a maximum of 1 year in the county jail or state prison. It is almost unheard of for a judge to actually impose such harsh sentence. If the person meets six criteria the prosecutor is required to refer the case to Diversion. The six criteria for Diversion are:

(1) The defendant has no conviction for any offense involving controlled substances prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(2) The offense charged did not involve a crime of violence or threatened violence.

(3) There is no evidence of a violation relating to narcotics or restricted dangerous drugs other than a violation of the sections listed in this subdivision.

(4) The defendant's record does not indicate that probation or parole has ever been revoked without thereafter being completed.

(5) The defendant's record does not indicate that he or she has successfully completed or been terminated from diversion or deferred entry of judgment pursuant to this chapter within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(6) The defendant has no prior felony conviction within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.


If a person is eligible for Diversion they are able to enter a conditional plea of guilty and if they then successfully complete the diversion program (usually “drug education” classes) the plea is set aside. This means that they do not receive a criminal record.
Source(s):
Center for Cognitive Liberty"

I wasn't aware that we were in California. Stop trying to defend this, it's getting ridiculous.

 

[Cats2506]

Found this on the internet for CA:

"A person convicted of possessing a personal use amount of MDMA in California faces a maximum of 1 year in the county jail or state prison. It is almost unheard of for a judge to actually impose such harsh sentence. If the person meets six criteria the prosecutor is required to refer the case to Diversion. The six criteria for Diversion are:

(1) The defendant has no conviction for any offense involving controlled substances prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(2) The offense charged did not involve a crime of violence or threatened violence.

(3) There is no evidence of a violation relating to narcotics or restricted dangerous drugs other than a violation of the sections listed in this subdivision.

(4) The defendant's record does not indicate that probation or parole has ever been revoked without thereafter being completed.

(5) The defendant's record does not indicate that he or she has successfully completed or been terminated from diversion or deferred entry of judgment pursuant to this chapter within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(6) The defendant has no prior felony conviction within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.


If a person is eligible for Diversion they are able to enter a conditional plea of guilty and if they then successfully complete the diversion program (usually “drug education” classes) the plea is set aside. This means that they do not receive a criminal record.
Source(s):
Center for Cognitive Liberty"

You are looking like a fool,


keep it up :thumb:

 

[Skookum-Jim]

Thank god playerrep is back to tell us things are not that bad. I really do feel bad for this kid he made a bad mistake but it is what it is.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

From Wiki: "For example, if a defendant had purchased illegal drugs from an undercover officer, he may be found not guilty if it is determined that the officer initiated the transaction or aggressively pressed the accused to complete it." Thus, if an undercover agent asks a kid if he wants some molly, it's entrapment.

"From WikI"

Hey PR, please call your lawyers off from me. I can't keep up with the legal costs, you small-time jock-sniffer.

 

[bigtyme]

Stop it PR, don't you remember, this is Missoula where the public...or the newspaper gets to declare guilt. People, talk about a bunch of stone throwers. Let the judicial process take its course. He is not the first Griz football player to do this garbage and won't be the last. If he was set up, well, that was his problem for taking the bait. Actually, all around it is just plain stupid on his part. But when we are 20 we think we are 10 feet tall and bullet proof, and as a Griz football player in Missoula it is even worse.

Remember for every kid like this there are the Jordan Tripp's of the world that actually care about donning the Griz uniform.

 

[Bear Spray]

Stop it PR, don't you remember, this is Missoula where the public...or the newspaper gets to declare guilt. People, talk about a bunch of stone throwers. Let the judicial process take its course. He is not the first Griz football player to do this garbage and won't be the last. If he was set up, well, that was his problem for taking the bait. Actually, all around it is just plain stupid on his part. But when we are 20 we think we are 10 feet tall and bullet proof, and as a Griz football player in Missoula it is even worse.

Remember for every kid like this there are the Jordan Tripp's of the world that actually care about donning the Griz uniform.

IMHO, the problem isn't the Jordon Tripps. The problem is, the kids who grow up to think like Player Rep.

 

[GrizLA]

Found this on the internet for CA:

"A person convicted of possessing a personal use amount of MDMA in California faces a maximum of 1 year in the county jail or state prison. It is almost unheard of for a judge to actually impose such harsh sentence. If the person meets six criteria the prosecutor is required to refer the case to Diversion. The six criteria for Diversion are:

(1) The defendant has no conviction for any offense involving controlled substances prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(2) The offense charged did not involve a crime of violence or threatened violence.

(3) There is no evidence of a violation relating to narcotics or restricted dangerous drugs other than a violation of the sections listed in this subdivision.

(4) The defendant's record does not indicate that probation or parole has ever been revoked without thereafter being completed.

(5) The defendant's record does not indicate that he or she has successfully completed or been terminated from diversion or deferred entry of judgment pursuant to this chapter within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(6) The defendant has no prior felony conviction within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.


If a person is eligible for Diversion they are able to enter a conditional plea of guilty and if they then successfully complete the diversion program (usually “drug education” classes) the plea is set aside. This means that they do not receive a criminal record.
Source(s):
Center for Cognitive Liberty"

I wasn't aware that we were in California. Stop trying to defend this, it's getting ridiculous.

In California, this would have been laughed at, but the kid would still be suspended in every public school, and probably sent to rehab, if a repeater, or to community service. Govt is not in the business of destroying lives, in spite of the efforts so many have in doing so.

 

[poiuyter]

He didn't buy from an under cover or anyone working with the police. The seller is still sitting in jail.

Poole will get probation and attend drug treatment program. First offense and under a gram. Over 1 gram is an federal offense.

 

[spsyk]

The kids future is ruined. He will never be able to apply for finacial aid..

His future is ruin because he can't apply for financial aid, what the f#$K does he need aid for, to buy drugs.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Found this on the internet for CA:

"A person convicted of possessing a personal use amount of MDMA in California faces a maximum of 1 year in the county jail or state prison. It is almost unheard of for a judge to actually impose such harsh sentence. If the person meets six criteria the prosecutor is required to refer the case to Diversion. The six criteria for Diversion are:

(1) The defendant has no conviction for any offense involving controlled substances prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(2) The offense charged did not involve a crime of violence or threatened violence.

(3) There is no evidence of a violation relating to narcotics or restricted dangerous drugs other than a violation of the sections listed in this subdivision.

(4) The defendant's record does not indicate that probation or parole has ever been revoked without thereafter being completed.

(5) The defendant's record does not indicate that he or she has successfully completed or been terminated from diversion or deferred entry of judgment pursuant to this chapter within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.

(6) The defendant has no prior felony conviction within five years prior to the alleged commission of the charged offense.


If a person is eligible for Diversion they are able to enter a conditional plea of guilty and if they then successfully complete the diversion program (usually “drug education” classes) the plea is set aside. This means that they do not receive a criminal record.
Source(s):
Center for Cognitive Liberty"

I wasn't aware that we were in California. Stop trying to defend this, it's getting ridiculous.

In California, this would have been laughed at, but the kid would still be suspended in every public school, and probably sent to rehab, if a repeater, or to community service. Govt is not in the business of destroying lives, in spite of the efforts so many have in doing so.

The federal government destroys lives everyday with the way they spend our money and run the country.

And really......who cares how they do it in California? Its the biggest problem in this country, that state is fu* ked and the mindset there deserves a cat6 hurricane
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[grizcountry420]

Wow 420 I think mtgrizrule was just having a little fun with you, bit of an overaction don't you think?

mtgrizrule is the most up tight asshole on this board. He wasnt having any fun with it. He'll call you out for saying dude.. Fvck him!

Damn man...maybe you should hit the bong and calm down a bit It's pretty obvious he was just messing with you...

420, Dude, I was messing with you , sorry you did not take it that way. Then again, i am an uptight Asshole, so doubt you will believe me.

Sorry for being a dick man...

 

[grizcountry420]

The kids future is ruined. He will never be able to apply for finacial aid..

So says the poster with an avatar of a character with a bong. :thumb: How ironic is that? :lol:

I have my degree bitch! Go fvck yourself!

You speak of this like having your degree is some big accomplishment? Nowdays, having a college degree is nothing more than a glorified high school dipolma. Has been ever since we as a society came up with this notion that everyone should go to college and that college is for everyone. That attitude has devalued the importance of a college degree. In no way does one need a degree to be successful.

Yeah you're right in some areas but if you're going to get a degree make sure its one where you can make some money when you graduate.....