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Playoffs..are we toast?
- Thread starter Griz!ron
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With the last tick of the clock ending the Bobcat game it'll be time to mercifully close out Griz Football 2014. There's something terribly needy and pathetic about all the straw grasping by folks who can't deal with us not going on the road in December to get our butts handed to us by some unfamiliar former DII school that won the championship of some distant conference you need Mapquest to find. Haven't we had enough embarrassment already this season?...Neither the team, the school - or GrizNation needs it...There is always next year you know - which could be good or "deja vu all over again" depending...think hope and change like BO said once upon a time...particularly change...
Inland NW Griz
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Silvertip said:
:lol: I thought I was disappointed.. back away from the ledge.. :lol:
Inland NW Griz
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Big G said:
You should concentrate on learning the game, and not being the biggest jackass on the site.
We're not in good shape at all at this point, that is obvious.
Looking at the conference standings EWU is a lock, NAU should be in with 2 games against down teams left, the winner of the MSU-Idaho State game will probably get in with a win, then you have a logjam of wannabes...
the loser of the the MSU/Idaho State game
the MSU/UM game which will be huge for one and possibly both teams
Cal Poly with wins over both Montana schools
I don't consider the BSC as strong this year as we are used to, so getting more than 3 teams might be a reach, although with expanded playoffs a 4th team could slip in there, if it comes down to a final spot vying with a MVC team I would expect MVC to get the spot.
At this point all the Griz can do is win their two games convincingly and hope some chips fall our way, there's always unexpected strange doings the last couple weeks.
Looking at the conference standings EWU is a lock, NAU should be in with 2 games against down teams left, the winner of the MSU-Idaho State game will probably get in with a win, then you have a logjam of wannabes...
the loser of the the MSU/Idaho State game
the MSU/UM game which will be huge for one and possibly both teams
Cal Poly with wins over both Montana schools
I don't consider the BSC as strong this year as we are used to, so getting more than 3 teams might be a reach, although with expanded playoffs a 4th team could slip in there, if it comes down to a final spot vying with a MVC team I would expect MVC to get the spot.
At this point all the Griz can do is win their two games convincingly and hope some chips fall our way, there's always unexpected strange doings the last couple weeks.
monte is a character
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havgrizfan said:
WTF? Some of us want our team to actually EARN a playoff slot, instead of relying on our stadium and the money machine to allow an unworthy team to get in. If we got in at the expense of Cal Poly, that would be a travesty to Poly! And if you were a Poly fan, you would be pissed.... and justifiably so!
monte is a character
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jodcon said:
Very accurate analysis. Does anyone really think we deserve to be in? Be real for a change. Tell me one quality team we have defeated this season? Not you Jodcon, just anybody.
DoubleNicks
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As has already been said on here, it really is too early to say and depends on the other games around the nation, not just the BSC. Games with bubble teams winning like UNI beating NDSU yesterday hurt Montana's chances. If the Griz win their last two games they would be (8-4) with 7 DI wins.
In comparison, last year there was:
Samford (8-4).....(8 DI wins, 1 was FBS Georgia State)
South Dakota State (8-4).....(8 DI wins)
SUU (8-4).....(7 DI wins, but 1 was FBS Southern Alabama)
Sam Houston State (8-4).....(7 DI wins)
New Hampshire (7-4).....(7 DI wins)
Furman (7-5) **SoCon auto-bid**
Lafayette (5-6) **Patriot League auto-bid**
It's a new season for anyone making the playoffs and anything can happen once you get there. This Griz team has enough tools and potential to compete with just about anyone but they also have enough weaknesses to get upset/embarrassed.
In comparison, last year there was:
Samford (8-4).....(8 DI wins, 1 was FBS Georgia State)
South Dakota State (8-4).....(8 DI wins)
SUU (8-4).....(7 DI wins, but 1 was FBS Southern Alabama)
Sam Houston State (8-4).....(7 DI wins)
New Hampshire (7-4).....(7 DI wins)
Furman (7-5) **SoCon auto-bid**
Lafayette (5-6) **Patriot League auto-bid**
It's a new season for anyone making the playoffs and anything can happen once you get there. This Griz team has enough tools and potential to compete with just about anyone but they also have enough weaknesses to get upset/embarrassed.
EWURanger29
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Big G said:
Zero chance the MVFC gets 5 teams in. Zero. None. Zilch.
BSC 1, maybe 2 bids???
NAU most likely will win the auto-bid, so there's 1.
EWU is already a lock for the playoffs and will earn a seed if we beat PSU in two weeks and finish at 10-2. There's 2.
The winner of the ISU/MSU game will get in. That's 3.
And there's still a chance for a 4th team.
Lots of football to be played yet, but the BSC a 1 or 2 bid league? Bahahaha.
Robsnotes4u
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I posted this in another thread, but it fits here also. A reminder you are comparing against everyone, but just showing how everyone compares in the BSC.
With only 13 At Large Bids.
Just comparing teams in BSC, then you have to compare your resume with others at 8-4 if the Griz win out.
Griz 5 D1 wins now, could end at 7
Griz have not beat anyone with a winning record in D1, could get one with a win against MSU
Lost to EWU and CP in the conference.
CP 6 D1 wins now, could end at 8
CP has wins over two D1 teams with winning r ecords, and could end up with 3 or 4
CP has head to head win.
ISU has 5 D1 wins, could end with 7
ISU has wins over 1 D1 with a winning record
ISU defeated Cal Poly who beat UM
On a 5 game win streak could end at 7
EWU has 8 D1 wins, could end with 9
EWU consistently in the top 5 of polls (even though the only poll that matters is the weekly by the committee)
EWU has wins over 4 D1 teams with winning records
EWU has a win over UM and MSU
MSU has 6 D1 wins could end with 8
MSU has wins over 1 D1 team with a winning record
still has head to head with Montana
NAU has 6 D! wins could end with 8
NAU has wins over 2 D1 teams with a winning record
NAU has wins over EWU and CP
on a 4 game win streak could end at 6
To me just looking in the BSC, not comparing resumes to all the other teams that could be in that 8-4 area.
With only 13 At Large Bids.
Just comparing teams in BSC, then you have to compare your resume with others at 8-4 if the Griz win out.
Griz 5 D1 wins now, could end at 7
Griz have not beat anyone with a winning record in D1, could get one with a win against MSU
Lost to EWU and CP in the conference.
CP 6 D1 wins now, could end at 8
CP has wins over two D1 teams with winning r ecords, and could end up with 3 or 4
CP has head to head win.
ISU has 5 D1 wins, could end with 7
ISU has wins over 1 D1 with a winning record
ISU defeated Cal Poly who beat UM
On a 5 game win streak could end at 7
EWU has 8 D1 wins, could end with 9
EWU consistently in the top 5 of polls (even though the only poll that matters is the weekly by the committee)
EWU has wins over 4 D1 teams with winning records
EWU has a win over UM and MSU
MSU has 6 D1 wins could end with 8
MSU has wins over 1 D1 team with a winning record
still has head to head with Montana
NAU has 6 D! wins could end with 8
NAU has wins over 2 D1 teams with a winning record
NAU has wins over EWU and CP
on a 4 game win streak could end at 6
To me just looking in the BSC, not comparing resumes to all the other teams that could be in that 8-4 area.
grizcountry420
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We can't even beat a good team in our conference let alone beat any good teams from out of conference. Montana doesn't deserve to make the playoffs..
Come to think of it neither has state. We have lost to poly, the cats lost to poly, we lost to eastern, the cats list to eastern. Yes I know the ewu/cat was non conference but for playoff implications both teams are essentially on the same boat. A win at suu puts us in the position to knock the cats out. :thumb:grizcountry420 said:
Getting into the play-offs is one thing, being competitive in the play- offs is another.
Being a fan it is hard to admit, and live in reality,
the coaching staff is not up to the grade of playoff competition.
Loose to two teams in conference, is a sure recipe to one and out.
Perhaps a couple and out, although divine intervention for a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
And I have thoughts that even with that divine intervention, this staff would fail, the athletes.
Being a fan it is hard to admit, and live in reality,
the coaching staff is not up to the grade of playoff competition.
Loose to two teams in conference, is a sure recipe to one and out.
Perhaps a couple and out, although divine intervention for a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
And I have thoughts that even with that divine intervention, this staff would fail, the athletes.
grizcountry420
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nzone said:
I honestly think the Cats are a better team than Montana. We've have had zero momentum going into games from week to week.. For the past 3 seasons Montana has yet to put in a FULL game of football, sure they might play good for a quarter or two but they are not consistant enough to beat any decent teams out there and it shows by looking at our record.
I would like to see what our record is against losing teams compared to teams with a winning record.. Micks whole coaching career has been win one, lose one, win one, lose one and it probably puts him at best having a .500 winning record.
blackfoot griz
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Would the Cat's loss to EWU play into the deal?
Could somebody tell me why the EWU/MSU came was considered a non conference game?
Thanks
Could somebody tell me why the EWU/MSU came was considered a non conference game?
Thanks
grizcountry420
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nzone said:
Me too, that would be great! I wonder when the home team will finally win this matchup cause I think the last 3 meetings the away team has came through with a victory!!
Robsnotes4u
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blackfoot griz said:
Look at the overall record, not the conference. Each team has a resume that is put up against every other team in the same situation.
How does a BSC team compare with every other team with like records in the FCS
1. amount of D1 wins
2. records against winning teams
3. wins against playoff teams
4. are they going up or down in the Committe Weekly Polls
5. How have they ended the season, winning or losing streak
6. What is their SOS