Playoff Projection

[DuCharme]

I've no clue how legit the site is. Interesting, though.

http://nobowls.com/

So, everyone can play all the teams they play all the time anyways. How boring.

I hear that! And I don't have much faith in this bracket scenario. I just wanted to spark some seeding/postseason talk.

 

[Htowngriz]

Although I'm pretty sure a 10-1 Montana would be seeded ahead of a 9-2 UND, especially if Cal Poly continues to win.

How so, u.n.d. would be big sky champs with only one FCs loss.

Being BSC champs means zero when it comes to seeding. Ask SUU.

Exactly. I hate to beat a dead horse, but there's no way the committee overlooks the fact that UND avoided Montana and EWU.

 

[1972]

If we beat Eastern and win the conference we deserve a 2 or 3, depending on how everything else goes down maybe even a 1. I'm going to be mad if NDSU is ranked ahead of us if they don't win their conference. I don't care what the schedule looks like you should have to win your conference to get a top ranking.

I think the committee focuses more on who you beat rather than who beat you, and they should. NDSU is deserving of a top seed right now, they have wins over 2 top 10 FCS teams and a 5-2 Big 10 team. There isn't a team in the FCS that has that kind of resume right now.

I would probably disagree with you, I think you guys have a better resume. I know they beat you, game was at their place, I look at it like that game was a wash, overtime game, I felt you were the better team that day. I could go either way on this, if I was picking today, I would give EWU the #1 seed. Not wanting to start an argument here. NDSU has squeaked by in a couple of games this year, haven't been as dominant as normal, big games left for all of us, lets see how they play out.

 

[The_Real_Chief]

Although I'm pretty sure a 10-1 Montana would be seeded ahead of a 9-2 UND, especially if Cal Poly continues to win.

How so, u.n.d. would be big sky champs with only one FCs loss.

Being BSC champs means zero when it comes to seeding. Ask SUU.

Exactly. I hate to beat a dead horse, but there's no way the committee overlooks the fact that UND avoided Montana and EWU.

They didn't avoid anyone, the Big Sky schedule rotation screwed them over.

 

[Htowngriz]

How so, u.n.d. would be big sky champs with only one FCs loss.

Being BSC champs means zero when it comes to seeding. Ask SUU.

Exactly. I hate to beat a dead horse, but there's no way the committee overlooks the fact that UND avoided Montana and EWU.

They didn't avoid anyone, the Big Sky schedule rotation screwed them over.

I think you know what I meant.

 

[SloStang]

If we beat Eastern and win the conference we deserve a 2 or 3, depending on how everything else goes down maybe even a 1. I'm going to be mad if NDSU is ranked ahead of us if they don't win their conference. I don't care what the schedule looks like you should have to win your conference to get a top ranking.

So how would you feel about that situation if UND wins the conference?

What if Cal Poly win's out and finishes 9-2 (8-1 vs FCS and 7-1 in the Big Sky) with wins over ranked SDSU, Montana and a EWU? Should they be seeded and if so where? Above or below Montana should Montana win out? That is a lot of if's, but I am curious to egriz take on this.

In this scenario, Montana would be seeded ahead of Poly most likely. Not saying it is right or wrong.

I am saying it is wrong, but I know you are most likely correct. I know the selection committee would and really the only true reason would be the money. Fairness and right mean nothing to the NCAA. It is and always be about the money. That is why they hammer FCS programs for minor infractions and slap BCS teams on the hand for major ones. They do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. In the FCS Montana feeds them. I get that. Do not always agree with it, but I do get it.

Cal Poly would have 3 top ten wins including a win over Montana. Montana would have one. They both would be 7-1 in the Big Sky. If they went strictly off resume Cal Poly should be seeded higher in the above scenario, but we all know they would not be. The playoff committee would justify it by saying Montana only has one loss to Cal Poly's two.

 

[Mavman]

If we beat Eastern and win the conference we deserve a 2 or 3, depending on how everything else goes down maybe even a 1. I'm going to be mad if NDSU is ranked ahead of us if they don't win their conference. I don't care what the schedule looks like you should have to win your conference to get a top ranking.

So how would you feel about that situation if UND wins the conference?

What if Cal Poly win's out and finishes 9-2 (8-1 vs FCS and 7-1 in the Big Sky) with wins over ranked SDSU, Montana and a EWU? Should they be seeded and if so where? Above or below Montana should Montana win out? That is a lot of if's, but I am curious to egriz take on this.

Poly should be seeded higher. That would be a tough situation tho, Both teams would have very impressive resumes.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

So how would you feel about that situation if UND wins the conference?

What if Cal Poly win's out and finishes 9-2 (8-1 vs FCS and 7-1 in the Big Sky) with wins over ranked SDSU, Montana and a EWU? Should they be seeded and if so where? Above or below Montana should Montana win out? That is a lot of if's, but I am curious to egriz take on this.

In this scenario, Montana would be seeded ahead of Poly most likely. Not saying it is right or wrong.

I am saying it is wrong, but I know you are most likely correct. I know the selection committee would and really the only true reason would be the money. Fairness and right mean nothing to the NCAA. It is and always be about the money. That is why they hammer FCS programs for minor infractions and slap BCS teams on the hand for major ones. They do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. In the FCS Montana feeds them. I get that. Do not always agree with it, but I do get it.

Cal Poly would have 3 top ten wins including a win over Montana. Montana would have one. They both would be 7-1 in the Big Sky. If they went strictly off resume Cal Poly should be seeded higher in the above scenario, but we all know they would not be. The playoff committee would justify it by saying Montana only has one loss to Cal Poly's two.

But Montana would also be 10-1 while Poly would be 9-2 in this scenario. Does UND get a seed over a 9-2 Poly team they beat if they run the table in Conference?

 

[The_Real_Chief]

What if Cal Poly win's out and finishes 9-2 (8-1 vs FCS and 7-1 in the Big Sky) with wins over ranked SDSU, Montana and a EWU? Should they be seeded and if so where? Above or below Montana should Montana win out? That is a lot of if's, but I am curious to egriz take on this.

In this scenario, Montana would be seeded ahead of Poly most likely. Not saying it is right or wrong.

I am saying it is wrong, but I know you are most likely correct. I know the selection committee would and really the only true reason would be the money. Fairness and right mean nothing to the NCAA. It is and always be about the money. That is why they hammer FCS programs for minor infractions and slap BCS teams on the hand for major ones. They do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. In the FCS Montana feeds them. I get that. Do not always agree with it, but I do get it.

Cal Poly would have 3 top ten wins including a win over Montana. Montana would have one. They both would be 7-1 in the Big Sky. If they went strictly off resume Cal Poly should be seeded higher in the above scenario, but we all know they would not be. The playoff committee would justify it by saying Montana only has one loss to Cal Poly's two.

But Montana would also be 10-1 while Poly would be 9-2 in this scenario. Does UND get a seed over a 9-2 Poly team they beat if they run the table in Conference?

Lets throw Weber into this conversation as well, someone will get screwed at the the end of the year bank on it.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

In this scenario, Montana would be seeded ahead of Poly most likely. Not saying it is right or wrong.

I am saying it is wrong, but I know you are most likely correct. I know the selection committee would and really the only true reason would be the money. Fairness and right mean nothing to the NCAA. It is and always be about the money. That is why they hammer FCS programs for minor infractions and slap BCS teams on the hand for major ones. They do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. In the FCS Montana feeds them. I get that. Do not always agree with it, but I do get it.

Cal Poly would have 3 top ten wins including a win over Montana. Montana would have one. They both would be 7-1 in the Big Sky. If they went strictly off resume Cal Poly should be seeded higher in the above scenario, but we all know they would not be. The playoff committee would justify it by saying Montana only has one loss to Cal Poly's two.

But Montana would also be 10-1 while Poly would be 9-2 in this scenario. Does UND get a seed over a 9-2 Poly team they beat if they run the table in Conference?

Lets throw Weber into this conversation as well, someone will get screwed at the the end of the year bank on it.

A lot will take care of itself. Weber still plays SUU, UND, Poly, and NAU. Poly has EWU. UM had EWU, NAU.

 

[SloStang]

What if Cal Poly win's out and finishes 9-2 (8-1 vs FCS and 7-1 in the Big Sky) with wins over ranked SDSU, Montana and a EWU? Should they be seeded and if so where? Above or below Montana should Montana win out? That is a lot of if's, but I am curious to egriz take on this.

In this scenario, Montana would be seeded ahead of Poly most likely. Not saying it is right or wrong.

I am saying it is wrong, but I know you are most likely correct. I know the selection committee would and really the only true reason would be the money. Fairness and right mean nothing to the NCAA. It is and always be about the money. That is why they hammer FCS programs for minor infractions and slap BCS teams on the hand for major ones. They do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. In the FCS Montana feeds them. I get that. Do not always agree with it, but I do get it.

Cal Poly would have 3 top ten wins including a win over Montana. Montana would have one. They both would be 7-1 in the Big Sky. If they went strictly off resume Cal Poly should be seeded higher in the above scenario, but we all know they would not be. The playoff committee would justify it by saying Montana only has one loss to Cal Poly's two.

But Montana would also be 10-1 while Poly would be 9-2 in this scenario. Does UND get a seed over a 9-2 Poly team they beat if they run the table in Conference?

I said that the playoff committee would use the fact that Montana has 1 loss to Cal Poly's 2. I would not have a problem if they ranked UND ahead of us in that scenario. They beat us and have the same record. I do however think the playoff committee could justify putting Cal Poly above UND based on resumes. Cal Poly would still have three top ten wins to UND's one.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

In this scenario, Montana would be seeded ahead of Poly most likely. Not saying it is right or wrong.

I am saying it is wrong, but I know you are most likely correct. I know the selection committee would and really the only true reason would be the money. Fairness and right mean nothing to the NCAA. It is and always be about the money. That is why they hammer FCS programs for minor infractions and slap BCS teams on the hand for major ones. They do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. In the FCS Montana feeds them. I get that. Do not always agree with it, but I do get it.

Cal Poly would have 3 top ten wins including a win over Montana. Montana would have one. They both would be 7-1 in the Big Sky. If they went strictly off resume Cal Poly should be seeded higher in the above scenario, but we all know they would not be. The playoff committee would justify it by saying Montana only has one loss to Cal Poly's two.

But Montana would also be 10-1 while Poly would be 9-2 in this scenario. Does UND get a seed over a 9-2 Poly team they beat if they run the table in Conference?

I said that the playoff committee would use the fact that Montana has 1 loss to Cal Poly's 2. I would not have a problem if they ranked UND ahead of us in that scenario. They beat us and have the same record. I do however think the playoff committee could justify putting Cal Poly above UND based on resumes. Cal Poly would still have three top ten wins to UND's one.

And Weber could still get involved in the discussion. Lots of games left.

 

[grizd]

No more regionalization. If he/she's going to be a "bracketologist" I would suggest he pay attention to announcements about playoff formation.

Incorrect. They don't have to follow the old bracket guidelines, but nothing says they can't regionalize the matchups.

Okay, so you took what I said and twisted it to mean the extreme meaning teams can't play anyone from the region under any circumstance. You should be running for president. :lol:

Obviously you can play someone from the region but that bracket doesn't seed or match up based on anything but regional proximity.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

No more regionalization. If he/she's going to be a "bracketologist" I would suggest he pay attention to announcements about playoff formation.

Incorrect. They don't have to follow the old bracket guidelines, but nothing says they can't regionalize the matchups.

Okay, so you took what I said and twisted it to mean the extreme meaning teams can't play anyone from the region under any circumstance. You should be running for president. :lol:

Obviously you can play someone from the region but that bracket doesn't seed or match up based on anything but regional proximity.

And my point was, it still can be that way.

 

[grizd]

No more regionalization. If he/she's going to be a "bracketologist" I would suggest he pay attention to announcements about playoff formation.

Incorrect. They don't have to follow the old bracket guidelines, but nothing says they can't regionalize the matchups.

Okay, so you took what I said and twisted it to mean the extreme meaning teams can't play anyone from the region under any circumstance. You should be running for president. :lol:

Obviously you can play someone from the region but that bracket doesn't seed or match up based on anything but regional proximity.

And my point was, it still can be that way.

Last response I promise, but this bracket is solely based on regionalization. Takes into account nothing but. I don't think nobowls.com "rules" are accurate that's all I am saying. In fact the playoff committe recommended against doing what nobowls.com is using as a "rule". From their website, right below the bracket:

The Pairings

• All first and second round match-ups in these brackets are my best attempts at mimicking what the committee would do with the chosen 24 teams while adhering to these rules:
  * Seeding the top eight teams and spacing them accordingly across the bracket
  * Avoiding first round match-ups with teams from the same conference
  * Creating geographically-friendly match-ups that follow the NCAA's 400-mile limitations when possible
  * Giving home field advantage to schools that historically have made winning bids

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Incorrect. They don't have to follow the old bracket guidelines, but nothing says they can't regionalize the matchups.

Okay, so you took what I said and twisted it to mean the extreme meaning teams can't play anyone from the region under any circumstance. You should be running for president. :lol:

Obviously you can play someone from the region but that bracket doesn't seed or match up based on anything but regional proximity.

And my point was, it still can be that way.

Last response I promise, but this bracket is solely based on regionalization. Takes into account nothing but. I don't think nobowls.com "rules" are accurate that's all I am saying. In fact the playoff committe recommended against doing what nobowls.com is using as a "rule". From their website, right below the bracket:

The Pairings

• All first and second round match-ups in these brackets are my best attempts at mimicking what the committee would do with the chosen 24 teams while adhering to these rules:
  * Seeding the top eight teams and spacing them accordingly across the bracket
  * Avoiding first round match-ups with teams from the same conference
  * Creating geographically-friendly match-ups that follow the NCAA's 400-mile limitations when possible
  * Giving home field advantage to schools that historically have made winning bids

I understand what you are saying. But my point was that they could very well do it by geography. Nothing prohibits them from doing so. I still believe that much of the bracket will be based on geography until we actually see them do it differently.

 

[garizzalies]

In this scenario, Montana would be seeded ahead of Poly most likely. Not saying it is right or wrong.

I am saying it is wrong, but I know you are most likely correct. I know the selection committee would and really the only true reason would be the money. Fairness and right mean nothing to the NCAA. It is and always be about the money. That is why they hammer FCS programs for minor infractions and slap BCS teams on the hand for major ones. They do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. In the FCS Montana feeds them. I get that. Do not always agree with it, but I do get it.

Cal Poly would have 3 top ten wins including a win over Montana. Montana would have one. They both would be 7-1 in the Big Sky. If they went strictly off resume Cal Poly should be seeded higher in the above scenario, but we all know they would not be. The playoff committee would justify it by saying Montana only has one loss to Cal Poly's two.

But Montana would also be 10-1 while Poly would be 9-2 in this scenario. Does UND get a seed over a 9-2 Poly team they beat if they run the table in Conference?

Lets throw Weber into this conversation as well, someone will get screwed at the the end of the year bank on it.

Well, it certainly won't be the Weebs because sex is illegal in Utah

 

[The_Real_Chief]

I am saying it is wrong, but I know you are most likely correct. I know the selection committee would and really the only true reason would be the money. Fairness and right mean nothing to the NCAA. It is and always be about the money. That is why they hammer FCS programs for minor infractions and slap BCS teams on the hand for major ones. They do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. In the FCS Montana feeds them. I get that. Do not always agree with it, but I do get it.

Cal Poly would have 3 top ten wins including a win over Montana. Montana would have one. They both would be 7-1 in the Big Sky. If they went strictly off resume Cal Poly should be seeded higher in the above scenario, but we all know they would not be. The playoff committee would justify it by saying Montana only has one loss to Cal Poly's two.

But Montana would also be 10-1 while Poly would be 9-2 in this scenario. Does UND get a seed over a 9-2 Poly team they beat if they run the table in Conference?

Lets throw Weber into this conversation as well, someone will get screwed at the the end of the year bank on it.

Well, it certainly won't be the Weebs because sex is illegal in Utah

I don't think thats true at all, you see all those damn kids running around everywhere in Utah

 

[GraniteGriz80]

We are playing very strong, but we have 2 big tests awaiting us. We need to concentrate on 1 game at a time.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

If we beat Eastern and win the conference we deserve a 2 or 3, depending on how everything else goes down maybe even a 1. I'm going to be mad if NDSU is ranked ahead of us if they don't win their conference. I don't care what the schedule looks like you should have to win your conference to get a top ranking.

I think the committee focuses more on who you beat rather than who beat you, and they should. NDSU is deserving of a top seed right now, they have wins over 2 top 10 FCS teams and a 5-2 Big 10 team. There isn't a team in the FCS that has that kind of resume right now.

He eagle man is right NDSU right now has the best resume a deserves #1. Montana can win out and not get a conf. Championship...not even a share. So you can't say we deserve a 2-3 not winning conf when NDSU has an amazing resume and doesn't win conf and you don't even want to give them a top seed. That sir is a ludicrous. Besides a 2 loss EWU team has a much better resume then us too