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Pflugrad officially applies for HC at Univ of North Dakota
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putter said:
NDSU and Bohl have a completely different recruiting philosophy and game day approach then Pflu did at Montana. As such, they won't compete, or will compete very little. UND also has historically hardly recruited in Wisconsin, which is where most of NDSU's success has been found. Does Pflu have background recruiting Minnesota and Wisconsin? If not, how would he plan on coming in there and taking NDSU recruits?
Also at Montana, Pluf had the advantage of recruiting players to play at MONTANA. He could say to a kid, hey come play at one of the premier programs in the FCS. At UND, he is telling a kid to come play at a program that is an after thought in their own state, and one of the worst teams in the FCS.
AZGrizFan said:bison said:
I smell fear behind that bravado.
None. You need to live in ND to have an idea of how far behind UND's program is right now. It would take a person like Dale Lennon, SIU's coach, to come into UND before I would even contemplate UND out-recruiting NDSU.
NDSU had a very similar streak to Montana/Montana State, I think it was at 13 years or something like that. UND had always tried to be this fancy offense. They brought it a fellow named Roger Thomas who decided that if UND was ever going to beat NDSU, they needed to do it at their own game. As such, they started to focus on recruiting the best offensive lineman and physical defense football players.
Pflu is not bread like this. He is of the Oregon offensive mindset. As such, I don't think he will interfere with NDSU recruiting because he doesn't want to play like NDSU.
bison said:AZGrizFan said:bison said:
I smell fear behind that bravado.
None. You need to live in ND to have an idea of how far behind UND's program is right now. It would take a person like Dale Lennon, SIU's coach, to come into UND before I would even contemplate UND out-recruiting NDSU.
NDSU had a very similar streak to Montana/Montana State, I think it was at 13 years or something like that. UND had always tried to be this fancy offense. They brought it a fellow named Roger Thomas who decided that if UND was ever going to beat NDSU, they needed to do it at their own game. As such, they started to focus on recruiting the best offensive lineman and physical defense football players.
Pflu is not bread like this. He is of the Oregon offensive mindset. As such, I don't think he will interfere with NDSU recruiting because he doesn't want to play like NDSU.
On that point I think we all would agree. But don't kid yourself into thinking that Pflu couldn't come in there and build a team that would compete year in and year out with NDSU on the football field.
montana_jack
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bison said:AZGrizFan said:bison said:
I smell fear behind that bravado.
None. You need to live in ND to have an idea of how far behind UND's program is right now. It would take a person like Dale Lennon, SIU's coach, to come into UND before I would even contemplate UND out-recruiting NDSU.
NDSU had a very similar streak to Montana/Montana State, I think it was at 13 years or something like that. UND had always tried to be this fancy offense. They brought it a fellow named Roger Thomas who decided that if UND was ever going to beat NDSU, they needed to do it at their own game. As such, they started to focus on recruiting the best offensive lineman and physical defense football players.
Pflu is not bread like this. He is of the Oregon offensive mindset. As such, I don't think he will interfere with NDSU recruiting because he doesn't want to play like NDSU.
Who the hell is NDSU?
Former UNLV and Wyoming asst Robin Ross also applied for the job.
mtgrizfankb
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I don't think UND takes the risk with pflugrad. Weber would be more likely
bincitysioux
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There have been 41 applicants thus far. The following six are really the only realistic candidates at this point:
• Robin Pflugrad, offensive coordinator, Weber State, former Montana coach.
• Bob Connelly, former assistant at Arizona State; former associate head coach and OL coach at UTEP; former OL coach at UCLA, former OL coach at Alabama, former OL coach at Washington St.
• Jamie Marshall, assistant head coach/defensive coordinator at Montana State of the Big Sky Conference.
• Jovan Dewitt, defensive coordinator, Florida Atlantic, former defensive coordinator at Northern Iowa
• Robert Ianello, wide receivers coach/recruiting coordinator at University of Kansas of the Big 12. He was also the interim head coach at Notre Dame in 2009.
• Robin Ross, Wyoming special teams coordinator/linebackers coach; former head coach at Western Washington.
I think Pflugrad, Marshall, and Dewitt are the only ones of this bunch that our AD gives a thought. The general line of thinking is that there will be several intriguing candidates that will apply probably on Monday next week. Tuesday is a soft "deadline" for applications. My guess is the new coach will be introduced around Friday of next week.
• Robin Pflugrad, offensive coordinator, Weber State, former Montana coach.
• Bob Connelly, former assistant at Arizona State; former associate head coach and OL coach at UTEP; former OL coach at UCLA, former OL coach at Alabama, former OL coach at Washington St.
• Jamie Marshall, assistant head coach/defensive coordinator at Montana State of the Big Sky Conference.
• Jovan Dewitt, defensive coordinator, Florida Atlantic, former defensive coordinator at Northern Iowa
• Robert Ianello, wide receivers coach/recruiting coordinator at University of Kansas of the Big 12. He was also the interim head coach at Notre Dame in 2009.
• Robin Ross, Wyoming special teams coordinator/linebackers coach; former head coach at Western Washington.
I think Pflugrad, Marshall, and Dewitt are the only ones of this bunch that our AD gives a thought. The general line of thinking is that there will be several intriguing candidates that will apply probably on Monday next week. Tuesday is a soft "deadline" for applications. My guess is the new coach will be introduced around Friday of next week.
bison said:
Enjoy your time at the top....sports like everything in life exists in a dynamic environment and change is inevitable
NDSU is the big dog but UND with the right leadership will challenge
Recall when the mighty huskers dominated the big 8? Times change and they produce dynamic results.....
Bisonation
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NDSU 3 losing seasons in 50+ years. Relax. I don't know who'd take a job at a school where Canadian hockey overshadows the football team.
mtgrizrule
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Whoever gets the UND job, they better be prepared to upgrade defensively. Their defense needs a serious upgrade in personnel, and strategy. I think Pflu would be a great fit with the young WR they have back. Who will be the DC? That is the biggest key decision for whoever the new coach is.
Bison, doesn't UND have a winning record against NDSU? Nickel Trophy 35-30 UND. Plus their top players over the years are : Weston Dressler (CFL great and current Grey Cup Champion, from Bismark) and Jim LeClair (former Bengals all-pro linebacker who once wrestled a bear). Your notable players are Tyrone Braxton and Phil Hanson (known for losing 8 Superbowls between them and wrestling no large omnivores) and Jeff Bentrim, who came to play in Canada and 30 years later we are still not sure what he thought he was here for. Besides the fact that their stadium is attached to a hotel with a kick ass water slide and yours looks like something that requires the sprayer and seeder to be folded up before you put it back in the quonset.
bincitysioux
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Even as ignorant as Bison is, he makes a valid point about North Dakota's traditional recruiting grounds. Alot of us feel that where Coach Mussman went wrong, was when he started recruiting to the Big Sky "style of play". The emphasis the last 5 years has been all about skill guys from the Southwest. Everything seems to have taken a back seat toward building an explosive "Big Sky" offense. What made North Dakota great was ball control and stoudt defenses. Building from the lines out. North Dakota used to focus on big blue collar Minnesota and Wisconsin kids. Lately it's been undersized speedy kids from AZ, CA, and IL, and we've struggled.
Alot of fans at Siouxsports.com are high on Pflugrad, and I too think he should get a look. But by all accounts, he is an offensive, up-tempo minded guy. Well that is what Mussman was too. And Pflugrad has no recruiting ties to our traditional areas. Mussman did, and he failed. I'm wondering if North Dakota doesn't need a ground and pound offense.
It will be interesting to see how the next 10 days unfold.
Alot of fans at Siouxsports.com are high on Pflugrad, and I too think he should get a look. But by all accounts, he is an offensive, up-tempo minded guy. Well that is what Mussman was too. And Pflugrad has no recruiting ties to our traditional areas. Mussman did, and he failed. I'm wondering if North Dakota doesn't need a ground and pound offense.
It will be interesting to see how the next 10 days unfold.
bincitysioux
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bison said:
The truth is though, that the job at North Dakota is probably the most attractive Head Coaching vacancy in all of FCS right now. We have funding, excellent facilities, membership in the best FCS conference, fan support, and tradition. It is not like we are Idaho St. You don't get over 600 wins as a program without being committed to it. We've had a couple bad years. This year was really bad. That is why a change has been made.
SaskGriz said:
Oh C'mon. No-one with a sense of humor can let this one go. That is some original trash-talking. Wrestling omnivores, motels with solid waterslides, sprayers and seeders folded into Quonset huts? Who has ever uttered these sentences before? I appreciate good trash talk that is not obscene. Starting your sentences with the words "Plus" and "Besides." I am with you. I think this means the Griz will beat NDSU, Pflugrad will get hired by NDU, and UM President Engstrom will become a golf-course consultant. Always looking for good omens.
