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Pflu as new OC?

GrizPony said:
If the NCAA investigation reveals nothing substantial and JJ gets acquitted, does anyone think RE will be man enough to admit his mistake and allow Pflu back as OC?
It will be "substantial", and JJ will not be playing football again. The RE decision is final and ends the possibility of any future positions at U of M for Pflu.
 
zoo guy said:
GrizPony said:
If the NCAA investigation reveals nothing substantial and JJ gets acquitted, does anyone think RE will be man enough to admit his mistake and allow Pflu back as OC?
It will be "substantial", and JJ will not be playing football again. The RE decision is final and ends the possibility of any future positions at U of M for Pflu.
I agree that we will never see Pflu or Hauck back but why so sure about "substantial" violations?
 
Filthy McGrizzly said:
zoo guy said:
GrizPony said:
If the NCAA investigation reveals nothing substantial and JJ gets acquitted, does anyone think RE will be man enough to admit his mistake and allow Pflu back as OC?
It will be "substantial", and JJ will not be playing football again. The RE decision is final and ends the possibility of any future positions at U of M for Pflu.
I agree that we will never see Pflu or Hauck back but why so sure about "substantial" violations?
That only thing that might lead me to be concerned about a substantial penalty is the so-called quality of some of their their past decisions. They're mind bottling.
 
bigskyguy said:
Maybe not the correct thing to do, but the right thing to do might be to bring him back as OC and then after Delaney’s contract runs out promote him to head coach. But if you were MD or Pflu would you want this to happen?
You're bringing back memories of Steinbrenner and Billy Martin...
 
zoo guy said:
GrizPony said:
If the NCAA investigation reveals nothing substantial and JJ gets acquitted, does anyone think RE will be man enough to admit his mistake and allow Pflu back as OC?
It will be "substantial", and JJ will not be playing football again. The RE decision is final and ends the possibility of any future positions at U of M for Pflu.
If JJ is acquitted, he will play football again. Somewhere; not Montana.
 
kemajic said:
zoo guy said:
GrizPony said:
If the NCAA investigation reveals nothing substantial and JJ gets acquitted, does anyone think RE will be man enough to admit his mistake and allow Pflu back as OC?
It will be "substantial", and JJ will not be playing football again. The RE decision is final and ends the possibility of any future positions at U of M for Pflu.
If JJ is acquitted, he will play football again. Somewhere; not Montana.


Bingo.

It’s almost embarrassing the number of Griz fans hanging their hopes on JJ’s return.
 
kemajic said:
zoo guy said:
GrizPony said:
If the NCAA investigation reveals nothing substantial and JJ gets acquitted, does anyone think RE will be man enough to admit his mistake and allow Pflu back as OC?
It will be "substantial", and JJ will not be playing football again. The RE decision is final and ends the possibility of any future positions at U of M for Pflu.
If JJ is acquitted, he will play football again. Somewhere; not Montana.

Not according to JJ.
 
While I'm not hanging the Griz' hopes on JJ being aquitted as I think that's way more of a long shot than people want to believe, I think Kem is completely wrong. He has attended every home game, he's been a huge supporter of Trent McKinney, he's enrolled at UM and he's basically told all his friends he has every intention of returning to the Griz if everything goes his way.

Now, if by not playing for Montana, Kem, you mean it's because the school will still expel him, that I might tend to agree with. But if you mean because he doesn't want to, no way.
 
havgrizfan said:
While I'm not hanging the Griz' hopes on JJ being aquitted as I think that's way more of a long shot than people want to believe, I think Kem is completely wrong. He has attended every home game, he's been a huge supporter of Trent McKinney, he's enrolled at UM and he's basically told all his friends he has every intention of returning to the Griz if everything goes his way.

Now, if by not playing for Montana, Kem, you mean it's because the school will still expel him, that I might tend to agree with. But if you mean because he doesn't want to, no way.
He's enrolled in classes. He didn't get expelled. He won't get expelled after being proven innocent
 
Uhhh I'm pretty sure I just said he was enrolled at UM. LMAO...But you may want to check your facts. Actually he was unanimously expelled by the honor court. He didn't receive one single "stay" vote. The explusion though, could not be en-acted once he was charged with a crime. I have no idea how that works, but that's what enabled him to attend classes this fall. The UM COULD very much enact that explusion once JJ's legal proceedings are over, and the way RE and Co. have been working things, it would not shock me in the least to see it happen. He would then still have an appeal, which he was in the process of doing right before Missoula Co. officially charged him. But the bottom line is, JJ was in fact set to be expelled from the UM.
 
So, was the Saudi student officially expelled even though he was encouraged to leave on his own before law enforcement had a chance to speak with him?

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havgrizfan said:
Uhhh I'm pretty sure I just said he was enrolled at UM. LMAO...But you may want to check your facts. Actually he was unanimously expelled by the honor court. He didn't receive one single "stay" vote. The explusion though, could not be en-acted once he was charged with a crime. I have no idea how that works, but that's what enabled him to attend classes this fall. The UM COULD very much enact that explusion once JJ's legal proceedings are over, and the way RE and Co. have been working things, it would not shock me in the least to see it happen. He would then still have an appeal, which he was in the process of doing right before Missoula Co. officially charged him. But the bottom line is, JJ was in fact set to be expelled from the UM.

If that's true then that is one fvcked up rule. You can expel him based on an honors court decision, but ones the DA feels there is enough to charge him you pull the expulsion.
 
Cats2506 said:
havgrizfan said:
Uhhh I'm pretty sure I just said he was enrolled at UM. LMAO...But you may want to check your facts. Actually he was unanimously expelled by the honor court. He didn't receive one single "stay" vote. The explusion though, could not be en-acted once he was charged with a crime. I have no idea how that works, but that's what enabled him to attend classes this fall. The UM COULD very much enact that explusion once JJ's legal proceedings are over, and the way RE and Co. have been working things, it would not shock me in the least to see it happen. He would then still have an appeal, which he was in the process of doing right before Missoula Co. officially charged him. But the bottom line is, JJ was in fact set to be expelled from the UM.

If that's true then that is one fvcked up rule. You can expel him based on an honors court decision, but ones the DA feels there is enough to charge him you pull the expulsion.
I'm betting Roles Royce and his court of jokers pulled the expulsion knowing that the DA was pressing charges and to pre-empt a future law suit from JJ if he is acquitted. If he's acquitted what would they expell him for, underage drinking off campus. They certainly wouldn't be able to stand behind the "conduct damaging to the institution" clause. If acquitted, I hope JJ sues the school for millions just to add to the monetary losses the school has incurred under RE's short term.

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I remember reading in one of Florio's 7,222 articles on JJ, that a criminal proceeding supercedes the explusion process. She laid it all out but that was the jist, and that's what allowed JJ to enroll for the fall semester. It's weird and I'm sure someone could actually search through UM's honor code and find out the full skinny, but whatever. Some people I've talked to fear the same as I do, that Royce would indeed sign off on the expulsion after the trial is over. Does that open UM up for a law suit? I guess. But it's all really a moot point until a jury decides JJ's fate in February.
 
Well, if he is coming back, let's hope he's long-tossing 5-pound bean bags a couple of hundred times a day. Be nice if he developed some arm strength to go with a his reborn QB chores.
 
havgrizfan said:
I remember reading in one of Florio's 7,222 articles on JJ, that a criminal proceeding supercedes the explusion process. She laid it all out but that was the jist, and that's what allowed JJ to enroll for the fall semester. It's weird and I'm sure someone could actually search through UM's honor code and find out the full skinny, but whatever. Some people I've talked to fear the same as I do, that Royce would indeed sign off on the expulsion after the trial is over. Does that open UM up for a law suit? I guess. But it's all really a moot point until a jury decides JJ's fate in February.

Just for the record, she is wrong if she said that and you are wrong about the expulsion. :thumb:
 
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