PASS DEFENSE

[griz5700]

and what are we going to do when a big time program comes calling for our dc? ty is a highly sought after up and comer. he`s been one offer away from leaving UM since he arrived in 2003.

Offer to cover moving expenses?

 

[George Ferguson]

The last two weeks, JP is THE ONLY PLAYER ON THE GRIZ DEFENSE OUTSIDE OF COYLE WHO CAN TACKLE. He's not even remotely close to the worst player on the Griz' D. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

 

[PlayerRep]

Best games Herm has played all year. First quarter strip may have been the game changer!

Hermie played better 2 games ago.

 

[PlayerRep]

Tripp is very athletic, but has not played his position well, missed tackles, late to the dance and out of position. He should have been a safety with his speed, height, and hitting ability. He would have been a pro prospect as a safety. Purely mediocre compared to Coyle and even JP.

Not true. Tripp is playing well.

 

[PlayerRep]

Tripp is very athletic, but has not played his position well, missed tackles, late to the dance and out of position. He should have been a safety with his speed, height, and hitting ability. He would have been a pro prospect as a safety. Purely mediocre compared to Coyle and even JP.

Are you out of you G damn mind???? JP is one of the worst players on our whole defense, they throw swing passes at him all the time knowing that he is going to take on the blocker and not make the play, when he is back in a zone they pass at him and run at him for huge plays all the time!!

Not true. JP is a very good lb.

 

[PlayerRep]

Tripp is very athletic, but has not played his position well, missed tackles, late to the dance and out of position. He should have been a safety with his speed, height, and hitting ability. He would have been a pro prospect as a safety. Purely mediocre compared to Coyle and even JP.

No not true. Not even close. Is a pro prospect, and a good one, as a lb. Doesn't miss many tackles, is almost never late to the dance, and has played his position well. Get out of here with you nonsense.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Tripp is very athletic, but has not played his position well, missed tackles, late to the dance and out of position. He should have been a safety with his speed, height, and hitting ability. He would have been a pro prospect as a safety. Purely mediocre compared to Coyle and even JP.

+ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cya:

Tripp has a shot at being a NFL LB. We'll see. No way a Safety at that level. Sorry.

 

[blackswan]

Jordan Tripp at safety? The kid is a stud. He was in position all game, just didn't make all the tackles. There are 10 other guys on the field. This is a team game. GO GRIZ,

 

[fanofzoo]

Tripp is very athletic, but has not played his position well, missed tackles, late to the dance and out of position. He should have been a safety with his speed, height, and hitting ability. He would have been a pro prospect as a safety. Purely mediocre compared to Coyle and even JP.

No not true. Not even close. Is a pro prospect, and a good one, as a lb. Doesn't miss many tackles, is almost never late to the dance, and has played his position well. Get out of here with you nonsense.

Coyle over Tripp, look at the numbers.

 

[PlayerRep]

Tripp is very athletic, but has not played his position well, missed tackles, late to the dance and out of position. He should have been a safety with his speed, height, and hitting ability. He would have been a pro prospect as a safety. Purely mediocre compared to Coyle and even JP.

No not true. Not even close. Is a pro prospect, and a good one, as a lb. Doesn't miss many tackles, is almost never late to the dance, and has played his position well. Get out of here with you nonsense.

Coyle over Tripp, look at the numbers.

What numbers? Middle backers almost always have more tackles than outside backers. Their numbers this year are almost the same. Tripp has more tackles. They are no. 1 and no. 2 on the team in tackles. Tripp has also forced 2 fumbles and blocked a kick.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Coyle has 84 tackles
Tripp has 69 tackles
Hermanson 67 tackles
JP has 66 tackles

 

[1Griz_Fan]

and what are we going to do when a big time program comes calling for our dc? ty is a highly sought after up and comer. he`s been one offer away from leaving UM since he arrived in 2003.

That was the funniest thing I read in a while. While it may be true that Gregorak may end up at a big time program (which I doubt) we will be no worse than it has been since he was the D coordinator. Ty may be a great position coach but a good D coordinator he is not. Plus once he moves up he will either lead a D that gives up countless yards and points until he gets fired or have a sequel to his own rendition of the Hangover.

 

[GottaluvGriz]

and what are we going to do when a big time program comes calling for our dc? ty is a highly sought after up and comer. he`s been one offer away from leaving UM since he arrived in 2003.

That was the funniest thing I read in a while. While it may be true that Gregorak may end up at a big time program (which I doubt) we will be no worse than it has been since he was the D coordinator. Ty may be a great position coach but a good D coordinator he is not. Plus once he moves up he will either lead a D that gives up countless yards and points until he gets fired or have a sequel to his own rendition of the Hangover.

Wyoming recently fired their D Coordinator for giving up similar points and yards for two games in a row......

 

[bigskyguy]

Because of our pass defense sometimes I think the opposing offense is better off at 3rd and 10 they are at 3rd and 2 or 3.

 

[oGriz]

Of all the defensive passing stats, "yards per game" is one of the least correlated with winning. It's really quite a useless predictor of winning. Montana is 12 out of 13 conference teams in passing defense yards. Guess what team is the worst in that category. If you guessed Eastern Washington, you would be correct.

Both Montana and Eastern Washington are quite a bit better in passing efficiency defense. Weber State is the opposite: They are fifth best in the conference in passing defense (yards) but second worst in the country in passing efficiency defense, and also, of course, last in the conference standings.

We're third in the conference in rushing defense (a yard per game more than second place MSU). You think opposing teams know that and utilize the pass more?

Passing Defense (YPG, Conference stats)
1. Portland State 187
2. UC Davis 189
3. Montana State 202
4. Cal Poly 206
5. Weber State 233
6. Southern Utah 239
7. North Dakota 243
8. Northern Arizona 247
9. Idaho State 269
10. Sacramento State 276
11. Northern Colorado 281
12. Montana 292 <====
13. Eastern Washington 302

Pass Efficiency Defense (122 FCS Teams)
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21 Northern Ariz. 112.37
22 Montana St. 113.69
34 Portland St. 118.44
49 UC Davis 123.51
54 Southern Utah 124.43
72 Cal Poly 132.86
74 Montana 133.67 <====
75 Sacramento St. 133.78
85 Eastern Wash. 137.80
89 Idaho St. 138.89
95 Northern Colo. 143.11
104 North Dakota 147.40
121 Weber St. 170.94

 

[rimrockgriz]

Of all the defensive passing stats, "yards per game" is one of the least correlated with winning. It's really quite a useless predictor of winning. Montana is 12 out of 13 conference teams in passing defense yards. Guess what team is the worst in that category. If you guessed Eastern Washington, you would be correct.

Both Montana and Eastern Washington are quite a bit better in passing efficiency defense. Weber State is the opposite: They are fifth best in the conference in passing defense (yards) but second worst in the country in passing efficiency defense, and also, of course, last in the conference standings.

We're third in the conference in rushing defense (a yard per game more than second place MSU). You think opposing teams know that and utilize the pass more?

Passing Defense (YPG, Conference stats)
1. Portland State 187
2. UC Davis 189
3. Montana State 202
4. Cal Poly 206
5. Weber State 233
6. Southern Utah 239
7. North Dakota 243
8. Northern Arizona 247
9. Idaho State 269
10. Sacramento State 276
11. Northern Colorado 281
12. Montana 292 <====
13. Eastern Washington 302

Pass Efficiency Defense (122 FCS Teams)
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/40" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
21 Northern Ariz. 112.37
22 Montana St. 113.69
34 Portland St. 118.44
49 UC Davis 123.51
54 Southern Utah 124.43
72 Cal Poly 132.86
74 Montana 133.67 <====
75 Sacramento St. 133.78
85 Eastern Wash. 137.80
89 Idaho St. 138.89
95 Northern Colo. 143.11
104 North Dakota 147.40
121 Weber St. 170.94

Now here comes PR...defender of the weak and timid. NFL...backer??? my a$$ :roll: :roll: Can't wait for the sprayed on sugar on this one :roll: :roll: :egriz: Without J.J. we are total dogshit.

 

[albinogriz]

Of all the defensive passing stats, "yards per game" is one of the least correlated with winning. It's really quite a useless predictor of winning. Montana is 12 out of 13 conference teams in passing defense yards. Guess what team is the worst in that category. If you guessed Eastern Washington, you would be correct.

Both Montana and Eastern Washington are quite a bit better in passing efficiency defense. Weber State is the opposite: They are fifth best in the conference in passing defense (yards) but second worst in the country in passing efficiency defense, and also, of course, last in the conference standings.

We're third in the conference in rushing defense (a yard per game more than second place MSU). You think opposing teams know that and utilize the pass more?

Passing Defense (YPG, Conference stats)
1. Portland State 187
2. UC Davis 189
3. Montana State 202
4. Cal Poly 206
5. Weber State 233
6. Southern Utah 239
7. North Dakota 243
8. Northern Arizona 247
9. Idaho State 269
10. Sacramento State 276
11. Northern Colorado 281
12. Montana 292 <====
13. Eastern Washington 302

Pass Efficiency Defense (122 FCS Teams)
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/40" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
21 Northern Ariz. 112.37
22 Montana St. 113.69
34 Portland St. 118.44
49 UC Davis 123.51
54 Southern Utah 124.43
72 Cal Poly 132.86
74 Montana 133.67 <====
75 Sacramento St. 133.78
85 Eastern Wash. 137.80
89 Idaho St. 138.89
95 Northern Colo. 143.11
104 North Dakota 147.40
121 Weber St. 170.94

Good point.... and good post..

 

[mtgriz]

To a certain extent, I think a lot of people are living in the past on assessing a team's defensive acumen.

In my opinion, the rules of the game as well as the more aggressive offensive tactics employed across the board have made having a shut down defense close to impossible.

And now add to that the officials' increased scrutiny on defensive ferocity, and playing defense has practically become a standard bend but don't break overall philosophy.

Fans want their team's offense to score 48 a game, but only allow 17. I just think it is the rare team that will ever get there in today's game, unless they are continually playing teams well below their level.

 

[tgreseth]

To a certain extent, I think a lot of people are living in the past on assessing a team's defensive acumen.

In my opinion, the rules of the game as well as the more aggressive offensive tactics employed across the board have made having a shut down defense close to impossible.

And now add to that the officials' increased scrutiny on defensive ferocity, and playing defense has practically become a standard bend but don't break overall philosophy.

Fans want their team's offense to score 48 a game, but only allow 17. I just think it is the rare team that will ever get there in today's game, unless they are continually playing teams well below their level.

Bonus points for not mentioning the Bison as an example. But you know AG1 will anyway! Good post in my pedestrian opinion...

 

[PlayerRep]

Also, the Big Sky is dominated by passing teams. The MV's top team averages 241 passing. NDS has about 200. The Big Sky starts with the top team averaging 351 yards of passing per game and has 9 teams averaging over 200 per game. Perhaps the MV is more of a defensive conference, but their defenses would give up alot more passing yards if they played in the Big Sky.