Our Defense Sucks

[garizzalies]

I would love to show Ty the door but he'd just come back the next morning to return the stuff he stole. That joke will never get old because it's so true: he stole the fear our D once instilled in other bigsky teams.

PS i kinda agree with silver1, Lebsock should be at safety, but i'd and Pierson too. He was a tackling machine @ S in HS.

 

[granitegriz]

Alpha's last 2 posts have been spot on...excellent critique. The offense is not always going to have a game like yesterday, last week for example. That "keep everything in front of you" philosophy is just too conservative. It basically says that you are going to make the opposing QB beat you, well the NAU QB took at that challenge openly.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Are you really going to argue that he couldnt play the spot he did all through HS better than either of the two that are there now?

I know he switched to LB and I would still let him play safety.

Van Ackeren as well. Could be a nice tandem.

 

[grizare#1]

The defense committed to stopping the run and challenged them to beat us with the pass. We did and they couldn't. We won and they didn't. On to UC Davis.

+1
I have come to the conclusion that no matter who we beat there will be no respect. With our luck both EWU and the Cats will lose their games just before we play them and therefore they are a shitty team that we should have beat anyway :roll:

 

[putter]

Its not losing game because of defense... Thats not happening, Its the amount of HUGE HUGE yardage plays that will eventually kill us, especially when we play a good team.

The NAU game reminded me of the way the basketball team played vs syracuse. Almost looked start struck and incapable, even though they were neither it sure looked that way.

Very true. PSU had a lot of talent and have the potential to be scary but they are still undisciplined and unorganized. Griz can't give up that kind of yardage to EWU or MSU...if they do it will be an NAU type of game. Montana has the talent but the DC is not scheming to shut down teams. This needs to change

 

[OrgonGriz]

I would not say our D sucks that may be a bit harsh. I will say I am not happy with the "attempted" arm tackles. Head down arms wide open almost hoping for offense to run into arms. That surely needs to be addressed.

I would also like to see a bit more of an aggressive approach more LB blitz's

I wish yesterday's team would have showed up against NAU. Water under bridge at this point.

When I picked against our Griz against App state and PSU they won. I will pick against us the rest of the season to continue streak!

 

[GRZFTBL]

Was listening to Mick & Gurns for the post-game while leaving the campus yesterday. They talked about how well our D played. I was thinking to myself how close this was to a 48-41 Griz "W".

 

[GrizUp]

Are you really going to argue that he couldnt play the spot he did all through HS better than either of the two that are there now?

I know he switched to LB and I would still let him play safety.

I guess I'm confused as to why they would move him from safety to linebacker, where we have plenty of talent and depth. Either they felt that he wasn't up to snuff at the safety spot, or that he would be better served in a linebacker role. Regardless, he made the move and Tully and Hermanson are our two options, and I don't see Ty swapping Connor back anytime soon.

 

[AZGrizFan]

The defense committed to stopping the run and challenged them to beat us with the pass. We did and they couldn't. We won and they didn't. On to UC Davis.

+1
I have come to the conclusion that no matter who we beat there will be no respect. With our luck both EWU and the Cats will lose their games just before we play them and therefore they are a shitty team that we should have beat anyway :roll:

THat last statement is 100% correct anyways.

 

[mikegriz]

They hung 390 yards passing on us.....not good. However, I thought they did a good job of stifling a very good runner in Adams to under 100 yards. That guy is scary good and has averaged 120+ per game and our front 7 shut that down pretty well. I thought Chief looked like a "shut down" corner for the first time all year....breaking up 3-4 very tough plays and making 2 picks....one was outstanding. The rest of the secondary and safety play is a bit suspect, and I think a lot of that is due to no pressure on the QB. Although it's not perfect, it's a big step up from last year in my humble opinion.

I would just add that they hung 390 yards passing on us, but for 27 points. Ain't a game of yards, but a game of points. That little bit being added, I'm with you. A step up from last year and and a huge leap up from last week. Be happy with the win folks!

 

[Darksim]

I really miss Tru J. That guy had it all.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I really miss Tru J. That guy had it all.

Goes to show why a True, in this case, Tru shutdown corner is so valuable. Tru was a rarity at this level. I remember people torching Hauck for converting him to CB from the get go. Sure looks like BH was 100% right on where Tru's best position was. :thumb:

 

[behappp]

I really miss Tru J. That guy had it all.

NFL quality CBs are a rare commodity at the FCS level. How many have the Griz had? We don't have any on the team now and no amount of coaching will change that.

We do need JJ and the offense to score points to win. With revised rules on hitting and protecting receivers, the game is more pass- oriented and high scoring than ever.

Bend but don't break on defense. Score on offense and don't turn the ball over. That is how we have to play to get to the postseason. It's not bad coaching, it's playing with the cards we are dealt.

Maybe we can't beat NDSU - but then again, who can? If we beat Eastern and the Scats, maybe one playoff win, then that will be a successful season for me.

 

[nzone]

We are one corner short of having a pretty good defense. One real noticeable bad trait we have on defense is the coaching staff being convinced we can pressure the qb with our 4 down lineman. We can't! It's pretty obvious Mick is going to stop the run at all costs which serves the bend don't break attitude. I predict teams will have success throwing the ball against us but a hard time scoring. Someone mentioned they miss Tru. I really miss Brekke.

 

[PlayerRep]

I would love to show Ty the door but he'd just come back the next morning to return the stuff he stole. That joke will never get old because it's so true: he stole the fear our D once instilled in other bigsky teams.

PS i kinda agree with silver1, Lebsock should be at safety, but i'd and Pierson too. He was a tackling machine @ S in HS.

Gregorak is one of our best coaches. Well-liked and respected by players. You are an idiot.

 

[PlayerRep]

I really miss Tru J. That guy had it all.

Goes to show why a True, in this case, Tru shutdown corner is so valuable. Tru was a rarity at this level. I remember people torching Hauck for converting him to CB from the get go. Sure looks like BH was 100% right on where Tru's best position was. :thumb:

Goodwin is having a very good season and will be all-conference. He was outstanding against PSU.

 

[PlayerRep]

We are one corner short of having a pretty good defense. One real noticeable bad trait we have on defense is the coaching staff being convinced we can pressure the qb with our 4 down lineman. We can't! It's pretty obvious Mick is going to stop the run at all costs which serves the bend don't break attitude. I predict teams will have success throwing the ball against us but a hard time scoring. Someone mentioned they miss Tru. I really miss Brekke.

UM may end up being a bend but not break defense this year, but, judging by Gregorak's quotes in the Sunday article, he isn't satisfied with being bend but not break. I too like aggressive attacking defenses, and they're great when they're successful, but I have no problem with bend but not break either. You have to have the right personnel and skill to attack frequently. If you don't don't get to the qb, the secondary, especially the corners, are overly exposed. If you can't stop the run during blitzes, the opponent will rip off long runs against you.

Giving up consistent chunks of yards, but not scores or long pass plays, often results in wins. However, in keep-the-receiver-in-front mode, you shouldn't give up long passes, which UM did on Saturday. On the long pass down the sideline on Saturday, I bet UM was in man coverage. I don't recall whether any pressure was brought or what the defense was. Anyway, the corner was out there all along with no safety help.

I would guess that UM brought pressure more often on Saturday than most people realize.

 

[tnt]

We are one corner short of having a pretty good defense. One real noticeable bad trait we have on defense is the coaching staff being convinced we can pressure the qb with our 4 down lineman. We can't! It's pretty obvious Mick is going to stop the run at all costs which serves the bend don't break attitude. I predict teams will have success throwing the ball against us but a hard time scoring. Someone mentioned they miss Tru. I really miss Brekke.

UM may end up being a bend but not break defense this year, but, judging by Gregorak's quotes in the Sunday article, he isn't satisfied with being bend but not break. I too like aggressive attacking defenses, and they're great when they're successful, but I have no problem with bend but not break either. You have to have the right personnel and skill to attack frequently. If you don't don't get to the qb, the secondary, especially the corners, are overly exposed. If you can't stop the run during blitzes, the opponent will rip off long runs against you.

Giving up consistent chunks of yards, but not scores or long pass plays, often results in wins. However, in keep-the-receiver-in-front mode, you shouldn't give up long passes, which UM did on Saturday. On the long pass down the sideline on Saturday, I bet UM was in man coverage. I don't recall whether any pressure was brought or what the defense was. Anyway, the corner was out there all along with no safety help.

I would guess that UM brought pressure more often on Saturday than most people realize.

All correct but poor tackling gave up too many yards. We should not be dealing with these kind of issues at this point. I'm sure Ty will have PLENTY to say about basics this week..... Or as some one else suggested you (PR) could truck down to practice and give a demonstration...........

 

[PlayerRep]

We are one corner short of having a pretty good defense. One real noticeable bad trait we have on defense is the coaching staff being convinced we can pressure the qb with our 4 down lineman. We can't! It's pretty obvious Mick is going to stop the run at all costs which serves the bend don't break attitude. I predict teams will have success throwing the ball against us but a hard time scoring. Someone mentioned they miss Tru. I really miss Brekke.

UM may end up being a bend but not break defense this year, but, judging by Gregorak's quotes in the Sunday article, he isn't satisfied with being bend but not break. I too like aggressive attacking defenses, and they're great when they're successful, but I have no problem with bend but not break either. You have to have the right personnel and skill to attack frequently. If you don't don't get to the qb, the secondary, especially the corners, are overly exposed. If you can't stop the run during blitzes, the opponent will rip off long runs against you.

Giving up consistent chunks of yards, but not scores or long pass plays, often results in wins. However, in keep-the-receiver-in-front mode, you shouldn't give up long passes, which UM did on Saturday. On the long pass down the sideline on Saturday, I bet UM was in man coverage. I don't recall whether any pressure was brought or what the defense was. Anyway, the corner was out there all along with no safety help.

I would guess that UM brought pressure more often on Saturday than most people realize.

All correct but poor tackling gave up too many yards. We should not be dealing with these kind of issues at this point. I'm sure Ty will have PLENTY to say about basics this week..... Or as some one else suggested you (PR) could truck down to practice and give a demonstration...........

Yup, everyone agrees that tackling needs to improve. Tackling is often an issue for many teams. Sometimes it's technique, etc., and sometimes, unfortunately, it's that some people are better tacklers than others. Look at the difference with Tully and Hermansen this year. They are tackling more consistently. Probably taking better angles, getting a quicker start. Hermansen isn't dealing with 2 injuries like he was last year. The corners need to improve their tackling.

 

[nzone]

The corners need to improve their tackling.

This!