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5280Griz said:
It’s a poor reflection of the team but they are college students and not professionals.
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I agree. It's a frontal lobe deficiency. Positive coaching is the best you can do. Sac State is a good example of a good change in the injury ratio when the coaching improves.
 
HikeGlacier said:
He didn't win us a natty, and any player would leave for the right amount of money.
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It makes me very sad to believe it all comes down to $$$. Both my spouse and I have turned down jobs with higher salaries, because the “conditions” were not as good as we already had. Perhaps I view the world through a different lens, but money has rarely been the baseline for decisions in my life. Many other factors are more important.
 
'68griz said:
It makes me very sad to believe it all comes down to $$$. Both my spouse and I have turned down jobs with higher salaries, because the “conditions” were not as good as we already had. Perhaps I view the world through a different lens, but money has rarely been the baseline for decisions in my life. Many other factors are more important.
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Yes. Me too. We are old school.
 
'68griz said:
It makes me very sad to believe it all comes down to $$$. Both my spouse and I have turned down jobs with higher salaries, because the “conditions” were not as good as we already had. Perhaps I view the world through a different lens, but money has rarely been the baseline for decisions in my life. Many other factors are more important.
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We're not talking about selling your house and picking up and moving your career at 50yo for an extra $50k. We're talking about a 20yo changing schools and his dorm room for $500k. It's a no brainer to these guys and it's never been any different.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
We're not talking about selling your house and picking up and moving your career at 50yo for an extra $50k. We're talking about a 20yo changing schools and his dorm room for $500k. It's a no brainer to these guys and it's never been any different.
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It’s not a one size fits all situation. What is a no brainer for one player is not for another.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
We're not talking about selling your house and picking up and moving your career at 50yo for an extra $50k. We're talking about a 20yo changing schools and his dorm room for $500k. It's a no brainer to these guys and it's never been any different.
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These guys don’t live in dorm rooms. Some like to stay with their girlfriends, friends and teammates. UM has been able to reduce the delta’s to less than 500K. And NIL is taxable. So 500K is reduced by 150 or so and maybe an agent fee. At some point, the money does get to be an almost insurmountable factor.
 
5280Griz said:
It’s not a one size fits all situation. What is a no brainer for one player is not for another.
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It's a no brainer for the players that can. If Gilman did indeed turn down a P4 offer of $750K to play for the griz. He made a huge mistake. If he's going to be a feature back in the NFL it would not make a difference if he went or not. But statistics say he won't and $750K would have given him a nice start. But I suspect that was nonsense anyway.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
It's a no brainer for the players that can. If Gilman did indeed turn down a P4 offer of $750K to play for the griz. He made a huge mistake. If he's going to be a feature back in the NFL it would not make a difference if he went or not. But statistics say he won't and $750K would have given him a nice start. But I suspect that was nonsense anyway.
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It’s a no brainer for most players that can. It might not be for someone who comes from a wealthy family or has an extenuating circumstance like family ties to a school.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
We're not talking about selling your house and picking up and moving your career at 50yo for an extra $50k. We're talking about a 20yo changing schools and his dorm room for $500k. It's a no brainer to these guys and it's never been any different.
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You’d think it would also be a no brainer to some of these parents. Yes you’re kid is taken care of here at UM, but pressuring them to stay here instead of potentially setting themselves up financially in the future especially in a time where that isn’t guaranteed is ignorant.
 
grizjumps45 said:
You’d think it would also be a no brainer to some of these parents. Yes you’re kid is taken care of here at UM, but pressuring them to stay here instead of potentially setting themselves up financially in the future especially in a time where that isn’t guaranteed is ignorant.
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Yes but there are families that are already set up financially. Certain positions you see this more often than not. Special teams specific players (kicker, punter, snapper) almost always come from wealthy families because those positions are mainly scouted through position specific camps that cost thousands to attend. These positions are lower on NIL but you do have wealthy players at other positions as well, just probably at a lower rate.
 
5280Griz said:
It’s a no brainer for most players that can. It might not be for someone who comes from a wealthy family or has an extenuating circumstance like family ties to a school.
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If the FCS school steps up part of the way to the big offer, many good FCS players don't leave, or at least stay for another year or so. Not getting pounded at RB in the FBS is another reason to stay FCS and have a longer NFL career. In past years, some of Dakota school players said they stayed to work with their teammates on another national championship. Big money can be big motivation, but Gubner, Bergen and Gillman opted to stay. We shall see what Gillman does this year. Leaving creates uncertainty in playing time, wear and tear, injury, how the player is actually used, and having to get to know all new teammates. If everything was about money, many people would never get married or have kids.
 
grizjumps45 said:
You’d think it would also be a no brainer to some of these parents. Yes you’re kid is taken care of here at UM, but pressuring them to stay here instead of potentially setting themselves up financially in the future especially in a time where that isn’t guaranteed is ignorant.
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I highly doubt that any family "pressures" their kids about this.
 
mthoopsfan said:
If the FCS school steps up part of the way to the big offer, many good FCS players don't leave, or at least stay for another year or so. Not getting pounded at RB in the FBS is another reason to stay FCS and have a longer NFL career. In past years, some of Dakota school players said they stayed to work with their teammates on another national championship. Big money can be big motivation, but Gubner, Bergen and Gillman opted to stay. We shall see what Gillman does this year. Leaving creates uncertainty in playing time, wear and tear, injury, how the player is actually used, and having to get to know all new teammates. If everything was about money, many people would never get married or have kids.
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This is a great post.
 
mthoopsfan said:
If the FCS school steps up part of the way to the big offer, many good FCS players don't leave, or at least stay for another year or so. Not getting pounded at RB in the FBS is another reason to stay FCS and have a longer NFL career. In past years, some of Dakota school players said they stayed to work with their teammates on another national championship. Big money can be big motivation, but Gubner, Bergen and Gillman opted to stay. We shall see what Gillman does this year. Leaving creates uncertainty in playing time, wear and tear, injury, how the player is actually used, and having to get to know all new teammates. If everything was about money, many people would never get married or have kids.
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If Gillman is concerned about wear and tear he should demand all of his NIL money goes to rebuilding the OL.
 
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