Okay, this is what I am hearing from D players

[bgbigdog]

The arguments from certain posters that an extra safety could have been brought in....playing in nickel more. This seems like a good argument as Simms, Shaw, and Davidson had the run stuffed.

We probably could have snuck an extra man onto the field for a play here or there, but ultimately not worth the penalty risk. It's a good thought, though...

:lol:

 

[poorgriz]

Most had us losing to EWU handily

Huh? You're talking to a different group than I am; my group had it as a tossup; big question marks on both sides. If an edge, to UM at home. Baldwin, top 3 receivers gone, two blowout losses, etc. I heard no one that expected EWU to roll handily.

Pfft - ya, you might want to check the EWU predictions thread. I'm thinking probably 90% of you picked the Griz over EWU.

I didn't


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Yep, and you are one of the more realistic fans out there. I never said ALL griz fans were overconfident and blindly eat the hype that Stitt spoon feeds them - just most of them. :thumb:

 

[kemajic]

Yep, and you are one of the more realistic fans out there. I never said ALL griz fans were overconfident and blindly eat the hype that Stitt spoon feeds them - just most of them. :thumb:

Not even close; eGriz does not have the best barometer on overall Griz fan opinion. Many actually understand the game and wrestled with the uncertainty coming into with this one and concluded in their mind it was a tossup. I was in that group.

 

[IdahoGrizFan]

Most had us losing to EWU handily

Huh? You're talking to a different group than I am; my group had it as a tossup; big question marks on both sides. If an edge, to UM at home. Baldwin, top 3 receivers gone, two blowout losses, etc. I heard no one that expected EWU to roll handily.

But that was 10 days ago. Now EWU is really good.

I mentioned this before too. A week or so ago Eastern was washed up, the reign was over. Now they are going to be Big Sky Champs and make a run on the National Champ. Why is it if a team beats us or if a bad team does well against us they are elevated to a higher status? Could it be that maybe they are still bad and we just didn't get it done?

 

[AZDoc]

Huh? You're talking to a different group than I am; my group had it as a tossup; big question marks on both sides. If an edge, to UM at home. Baldwin, top 3 receivers gone, two blowout losses, etc. I heard no one that expected EWU to roll handily.

Pfft - ya, you might want to check the EWU predictions thread. I'm thinking probably 90% of you picked the Griz over EWU.

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Yep, and you are one of the more realistic fans out there. I never said ALL griz fans were overconfident and blindly eat the hype that Stitt spoon feeds them - just most of them. :thumb:

Nor did I...and I know Stitt

 

[AZDoc]

Most had us losing to EWU handily

Huh? You're talking to a different group than I am; my group had it as a tossup; big question marks on both sides. If an edge, to UM at home. Baldwin, top 3 receivers gone, two blowout losses, etc. I heard no one that expected EWU to roll handily.

But that was 10 days ago. Now EWU is really good.

I mentioned this before too. A week or so ago Eastern was washed up, the reign was over. Now they are going to be Big Sky Champs and make a run on the National Champ. Why is it if a team beats us or if a bad team does well against us they are elevated to a higher status? Could it be that maybe they are still bad and we just didn't get it done?

I think the reality was that we all HOPED there would be a washed up group. Let's hope this week things change and the Griz get it going in all phases

 

[zirge]

....another problem with Stitt being the OC...most of the time hes side track with next series of
play calling instead of steering the ship...if you look at most HC they have their hands on the wheel and are able to make adjustments with the coordinators...I guess he needs to decide if he wants to be HC or OC because there is a huge problem with adjustments..

His play calling and offense is what got him the job, same goes for Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. If your offensive innovation and play calling is the reason you have the job that you do, why would you pivot from doing it? Just a thought.

that may be true as it may not be right. i lean towards grizghost on this.
didn't know that jeremy is a griz fan...

 

[GlacierGrizX]

Ultimately the whole game Saturday comes down to this, for me anyway(both offense and defense)...... I really don't think people are upset that the Griz lost. Most had us at 2-2 right now and that is where we are. Most had us losing to EWU handily, the Griz lost by 7 with a RS-Frosh QB so that is a great game honestly. Where I feel most are upset(my frustration as well, just not gonna a jump off a bridge or quit on the season) is HOW the Griz lost the game.

If the game was back and forth....Griz score, EWU score, Griz stop them, EWU stops Griz, game is close the whole way(within a TD) and the Griz lose by 7...... I feel most would have defiantly hated the loss(I hate any loss), but considering how good EWU is and their QB, most would have at least walked away feeling OK. However, it's the way the Griz lost that is what has people so upset. Dominate first half by both Offense(could've scored more IMO with a few less pass drops) and Defense, then get dominated in second half giving up 42 points. While the offense did score, the couple of quick 3&outs and dropped passes(esp after EWU scored right after half and the dropped TD) put a lot of pressure on D and they couldn't hold. The coaches not making adjustments to stop the bleeding(both sides of the ball) and watching that damn bubble screen again and again and again go for big gains.

That's the uproar IMO.........I won't give up on the season though!! Go Griz!!! FTC!!!

I agree with your analysis. I think going for on 4th three times in the fourth quarter was really detrimental. Pin EWU in their own terriorty and make them earn, and possibly give us good field position? If Nick Saban and the whole NFL did it, I would make reconsider my statement?

 

[daGrizJ]

Vegas had us as 11 points underdogs against the #11 team in the country. Shit, we beat the spread. I had no illusions about how good EWU is even though they lost a bunch of players. #7 came in against NDSU last year when Kupp went down and had almost 180 yards. Gubrud is expected to be in the top three for the Payton award this year. Yes, I was hoping they would have a down year but they just seem to reload. (Which I think we will do too if Stitt is given the time with recruiting.) When we ended the first half with the hail Mary TD I had a glimmer of hope, but I also knew that EWU was not going away. Gubrud was a little off in the first half (mostly because of the D pressure) but they had missed three TDs by inches. We got beat by a better team. I still believe, even though this team is VERY YOUNG at the skill positions, including starting a RS freshman at QB, that we will have a successful year. The next two weeks are key.

 

[cclarkblues]

Ultimately the whole game Saturday comes down to this, for me anyway(both offense and defense)...... I really don't think people are upset that the Griz lost. Most had us at 2-2 right now and that is where we are. Most had us losing to EWU handily, the Griz lost by 7 with a RS-Frosh QB so that is a great game honestly. Where I feel most are upset(my frustration as well, just not gonna a jump off a bridge or quit on the season) is HOW the Griz lost the game.

If the game was back and forth....Griz score, EWU score, Griz stop them, EWU stops Griz, game is close the whole way(within a TD) and the Griz lose by 7...... I feel most would have defiantly hated the loss(I hate any loss), but considering how good EWU is and their QB, most would have at least walked away feeling OK. However, it's the way the Griz lost that is what has people so upset. Dominate first half by both Offense(could've scored more IMO with a few less pass drops) and Defense, then get dominated in second half giving up 42 points. While the offense did score, the couple of quick 3&outs and dropped passes(esp after EWU scored right after half and the dropped TD) put a lot of pressure on D and they couldn't hold. The coaches not making adjustments to stop the bleeding(both sides of the ball) and watching that damn bubble screen again and again and again go for big gains.

That's the uproar IMO.........I won't give up on the season though!! Go Griz!!! FTC!!!

I agree with your analysis. I think going for on 4th three times in the fourth quarter was really detrimental. Pin EWU in their own terriorty and make them earn, and possibly give us good field position? If Nick Saban and the whole NFL did it, I would make reconsider my statement?

It really didn't bother me because by that time we were unable to stop EWU defensively. They were ripping off huge chunks of yardage so I don't think it mattered whether it was 30 or 70 yards to go.

 

[westsider]

Time will tell what the D players will "say", if they give up 40 points against an 0-3 team this weekend.

 

[PlayerRep]

Time will tell what the D players will "say", if they give up 40 points against an 0-3 team this weekend.

The Griz will beat PSU. If they don't, then very long season. You can take my prediction to the bank. Just don't borrow or bet any money on the prediction. Just leave it at the bank.

 

[Ursus1]

Time will tell what the D players will "say", if they give up 40 points against an 0-3 team this weekend.

The Griz will beat PSU. If they don't, then very long season. You can take my prediction to the bank. Just don't borrow or bet any money on the prediction. Just leave it at the bank.

Sounds very similar to what would be considered a must win game.

 

[Ursus1]

Vegas had us as 11 points underdogs against the #11 team in the country. Shit, we beat the spread. I had no illusions about how good EWU is even though they lost a bunch of players. #7 came in against NDSU last year when Kupp went down and had almost 180 yards. Gubrud is expected to be in the top three for the Payton award this year. Yes, I was hoping they would have a down year but they just seem to reload. (Which I think we will do too if Stitt is given the time with recruiting.) When we ended the first half with the hail Mary TD I had a glimmer of hope, but I also knew that EWU was not going away. Gubrud was a little off in the first half (mostly because of the D pressure) but they had missed three TDs by inches. We got beat by a better team. I still believe, even though this team is VERY YOUNG at the skill positions, including starting a RS freshman at QB, that we will have a successful year. The next two weeks are key.

You do realize how spreads are "created". Ranking of teams (difference in rankings), include minefield advantage and the some wiggle room to get money bet in correct places. Not football experts who study the teams in detail. If a team is highly overrated going against an underrated one the spread is larger. Montana came in with no love, and EWU is still riding rankings from being good last year.

 

[bigforkgriz]

I thought Stitt's decision to go for it on 4th down with 7 minutes left in the 2nd quarter contributed to the D running out of gas in the second half. We ended up playing in our own half of the field right up to the last 50 second drive with the hail mary. The D was on the field pretty much all of those 7 minutes. The D did a stellar job with some luck on overthrows. He could have punted into our vaunted North Endzone and pinned them back. And yes, the crowd does influence the game. Aren't we always counting false starts. The decision to go for it had the potential of letting them back in the game, but it definitely drained the D.

 

[PlayerRep]

Time will tell what the D players will "say", if they give up 40 points against an 0-3 team this weekend.

The Griz will beat PSU. If they don't, then very long season. You can take my prediction to the bank. Just don't borrow or bet any money on the prediction. Just leave it at the bank.

Sounds very similar to what would be considered a must win game.

Getting closer to must win, but not there yet. But will be telling for the rest of the season.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Huh? You're talking to a different group than I am; my group had it as a tossup; big question marks on both sides. If an edge, to UM at home. Baldwin, top 3 receivers gone, two blowout losses, etc. I heard no one that expected EWU to roll handily.

Pfft - ya, you might want to check the EWU predictions thread. I'm thinking probably 90% of you picked the Griz over EWU.

I didn't


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Yep, and you are one of the more realistic fans out there. I never said ALL griz fans were overconfident and blindly eat the hype that Stitt spoon feeds them - just most of them. :thumb:

You DO realize that 90% of Griz fans pick with their heart and not their head?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Most had us losing to EWU handily

Huh? You're talking to a different group than I am; my group had it as a tossup; big question marks on both sides. If an edge, to UM at home. Baldwin, top 3 receivers gone, two blowout losses, etc. I heard no one that expected EWU to roll handily.

But that was 10 days ago. Now EWU is really good.

I mentioned this before too. A week or so ago Eastern was washed up, the reign was over. Now they are going to be Big Sky Champs and make a run on the National Champ. Why is it if a team beats us or if a bad team does well against us they are elevated to a higher status? Could it be that maybe they are still bad and we just didn't get it done?

Why not? Every decent team we beat suddenly becomes overrated...

 

[jodcon]

Huh? You're talking to a different group than I am; my group had it as a tossup; big question marks on both sides. If an edge, to UM at home. Baldwin, top 3 receivers gone, two blowout losses, etc. I heard no one that expected EWU to roll handily.

But that was 10 days ago. Now EWU is really good.

I mentioned this before too. A week or so ago Eastern was washed up, the reign was over. Now they are going to be Big Sky Champs and make a run on the National Champ. Why is it if a team beats us or if a bad team does well against us they are elevated to a higher status? Could it be that maybe they are still bad and we just didn't get it done?

Why not? Every decent team we beat suddenly becomes overrated...

This will probably draw some hate but we really haven't beaten anybody "good" since 2015, we thought UNI was good but they really weren't, the last decent team we were able to take down was SDSU in the 2015 playoffs before the Bison drilled us. That's a sobering fact and I hate it.

 

[The.Real.2506]

Gubrud on the screens being open in the second half:

“I wasn’t surprised that was open,” Gubrud said. “Our receivers are exceptionally good blockers on the edge and they do a great job of making people miss. You get three against three over there, you theoretically only have to make one guy miss if everyone blocks it. It’s a numbers game for us. If they are going to overload the box, we are going to put it outside and make you run.”

Eagles ignore missed chances, pile up 2nd half points
http://skylinesportsmt.com/eagles-ignore-missed-chances-pile-up-2nd-half-points/

Again...anyone else have that theory? Oh wait...if Stitt wants to do it, it's a garbage play...that's right :roll:

Compare Stitt's level of success on bubble screens to EWUs. Do his wide receivers get blocks? First series against EWU: 6 yards on first down. Bubble screen - incomplete. Bubble screen - incomplete. Punt. It's been well scouted by now and easy to defend because we don't get the blocks on the perimeter. Someone will gamble, overplay it, and turn it into a pick 6 risk. But you like it....

It may be a good time for the coaching staff to work with their tight ends to improve blocking on the bubble screens and swing passes.

when did you guys get a tight end?