Official Stats for Conference Teams

[CDAGRIZ]

Why would anyone care about 2/3-game conference stats when there are 7/6-game stats available? The lack of games in the 2/3-game sample causes outliers to skew the stats too much and make almost not meaningful.

Because they are a better representation when comparing one team to another, but for your purposes of spinning deceptions you should stick with using the full stats.

Which set of stats should I use to determine how many touchdowns and interceptions a quarterback has thrown in the season? Is it the same for rushing yards?

I saw this game where Oregon beat Nicholls State. Oregon had 772 yards of offense including 500 rushing yards. ESPN is counting that game toward the season totals, but they shouldn't be, correct? I sent an e-mail to Lee Corso about this. I'll let you know when he gets back to me.

Evidently you don't read very well, note the enlarged text in my original post. Of course if you want to look at individual totals, you would look at the full data set. Those individual totals don't really show anything and are useless for comparison to another individual but if you want totals then go for it.

Dude, I was just asking. I am getting super confused about when to use which stats from which games for which purposes. At your convenience, can you kindly create a table or spreadsheet that clarifies all of this? I am think about the "purposes" on the Y axis, the stats on the X axis, and then we can all follow it to the intersection where it will tell us how many games to use. For example, what if we want to compare how many yards two teams have gained at this point in the season? Do we use 2 games? 3? All? I have been doing it incorrectly for my entire life by just using all of the stats.

 

[signedbewildered]

Why would anyone care about 2/3-game conference stats when there are 7/6-game stats available? The lack of games in the 2/3-game sample causes outliers to skew the stats too much and make almost not meaningful.

Because they are a better representation when comparing one team to another, but for your purposes of spinning deceptions you should stick with using the full stats.

Which set of stats should I use to determine how many touchdowns and interceptions a quarterback has thrown in the season? Is it the same for rushing yards?

I saw this game where Oregon beat Nicholls State. Oregon had 772 yards of offense including 500 rushing yards. ESPN is counting that game toward the season totals, but they shouldn't be, correct? I sent an e-mail to Lee Corso about this. I'll let you know when he gets back to me.

Evidently you don't read very well, note the enlarged text in my original post. Of course if you want to look at individual totals, you would look at the full data set. Those individual totals don't really show anything and are useless for comparison to another individual but if you want raw totals then go for it.

So why in the World are you spending time arguing about this post? Bored?

 

[kurtismichael]

Numbers never lie. Opps I already posted that on that other stats thread.

 

[EverettGriz]

I am getting super confused about when to use which stats from which games for which purposes

I think it would best serve Cheetah's interest if you only use the stats that make the cats look good and the GRIZ look pedestrian.


Thanks.

 

[Ursa Major]

I am getting super confused about when to use which stats from which games for which purposes

I think it would best serve Cheetah's interest if you only use the stats that make the cats look good and the GRIZ look pedestrian.


Thanks.

HA!

Can't wait for the beat down, trail of tears and the excuses...

 

[grizindabox]

No, I totally get it. It is better to compare stats from a team that has played Oregon St, Toledo, W. Oregon and Sam Houston to a team that has played ASU, UND, and Okla Panhandle St in there OOC schedules. Easy to see that statistically speaking, Montana is a far superior team than EWU....

My caveat, UM maybe superior to EWU, and they will settle it on the field in a couple weeks, but statistically you are comparing apples and oranges when you look at all games. The point many are trying to make is it is closer to apples and apples by looking at conference stats only. But heaven forbid PR can grasp that little idea.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I am getting super confused about when to use which stats from which games for which purposes

I think it would best serve Cheetah's interest if you only use the stats that make the cats look good and the GRIZ look pedestrian.


Thanks.

That's going to be hard to fit on the spreadsheet (which I am still awaiting). I also want to find out what team in the BSC has the most sacks, but don't even know where to start.

 

[Ursa Major]

I am getting super confused about when to use which stats from which games for which purposes

I think it would best serve Cheetah's interest if you only use the stats that make the cats look good and the GRIZ look pedestrian.


Thanks.

That's going to be hard to fit on the spreadsheet (which I am still awaiting). I also want to find out what team in the BSC has the most sacks, but don't even know where to start.

Shhhhhh....you're fucking things up for msu.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I am getting super confused about when to use which stats from which games for which purposes

I think it would best serve Cheetah's interest if you only use the stats that make the cats look good and the GRIZ look pedestrian.


Thanks.

That's going to be hard to fit on the spreadsheet (which I am still awaiting). I also want to find out what team in the BSC has the most sacks, but don't even know where to start.

Shhhhhh....you're fucking things up for msu.

Impossible. MSU is one of the best teams ever assembled when we look at first and second down in the first half of their first and second conference wins and the last series of the second quarter of the Mesa game.

This also raises a whole other issue: since we are now seeing that we should handicap the stats by only counting certain games (and, I think, certain portions of games), wouldn't it only be fair to handicap the games by only counting certain points?

 

[Ursa Major]

I think it would best serve Cheetah's interest if you only use the stats that make the cats look good and the GRIZ look pedestrian.


Thanks.

That's going to be hard to fit on the spreadsheet (which I am still awaiting). I also want to find out what team in the BSC has the most sacks, but don't even know where to start.

Shhhhhh....you're fucking things up for msu.

Impossible. MSU is one of the best teams ever assembled when we look at first and second down in the first half of their first and second conference wins and the last series of the second quarter of the Mesa game.

This also raises a whole other issue: since we are now seeing that we should handicap the stats by only counting certain games (and, I think, certain portions of games), wouldn't it only be fair to handicap the games by only counting certain points?

Yes! Only the good points should count. SFA was an anomaly....

 

[Catsrback76]

That's going to be hard to fit on the spreadsheet (which I am still awaiting). I also want to find out what team in the BSC has the most sacks, but don't even know where to start.

Shhhhhh....you're f***[*] things up for msu.

Impossible. MSU is one of the best teams ever assembled when we look at first and second down in the first half of their first and second conference wins and the last series of the second quarter of the Mesa game.

This also raises a whole other issue: since we are now seeing that we should handicap the stats by only counting certain games (and, I think, certain portions of games), wouldn't it only be fair to handicap the games by only counting certain points?

Yes! Only the good points should count. SFA was an anomaly....

As was NAU!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Shhhhhh....you're f***[*] things up for msu.

Impossible. MSU is one of the best teams ever assembled when we look at first and second down in the first half of their first and second conference wins and the last series of the second quarter of the Mesa game.

This also raises a whole other issue: since we are now seeing that we should handicap the stats by only counting certain games (and, I think, certain portions of games), wouldn't it only be fair to handicap the games by only counting certain points?

Yes! Only the good points should count. SFA was an anomaly....

As was NAU!

Really? I thought you guys looked pretty solid against them. I guess you know more about MSU, though.