OFFENSE!

[1972]

I think field position had a tremendous affect on the play calling. Look at the first part of the game when we started in good field position, we were much more aggressive on play calling than when we were starting in the shadows of our goal post. Thought Stitt played it safe and trusted in his defense.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Let me understand this...40 of our players (half of the team) are brand new. Another what, 5 or 6 on top of that are transfers. It's Bob Stitt's second year and you're pissed cause we didn't beat the #3 team down (ranked #14) by 30? Hmm..okay, then.

Must have missed it. Whom is pissed because the Griz didn't win by 30?

 

[AZGrizFan]

I said in another thread that since we were playing the #3 team...on the road....that my expectations for this game were lower than they were for SFU. Somehow they still managed to play below my expectations (with the exception of the first two drives).

But it comes down to this: Until the offensive line can give Brady time to actually go through his progressions, it's gonna be ugly. And until Brady becomes a running threat on the read-options, the running game is gonna be ugly. Sadly, I'm not sure either one of those are going to improve markedly this season.

 

[Griz Time]

Let me understand this...40 of our players (half of the team) are brand new. Another what, 5 or 6 on top of that are transfers. It's Bob Stitt's second year and you're pissed cause we didn't beat the #3 team down (ranked #14) by 30? Hmm..okay, then.

Must have missed it. Whom is pissed because the Griz didn't win by 30?

The first two sentences of the topic suggest so.

 

[reinell30]

Let me understand this...40 of our players (half of the team) are brand new. Another what, 5 or 6 on top of that are transfers. It's Bob Stitt's second year and you're pissed cause we didn't beat the #3 team down (ranked #14) by 30? Hmm..okay, then.

Must have missed it. Whom is pissed because the Griz didn't win by 30?

The first two sentences of the topic suggest so.

Win by 1 or 100, I don't care. Three 1st downs in a half and you're happy? That is the opinion you are entitled too. Short slant routes, short dump-off across the middle to those big receivers (Bingham, Horner) anything to improve the 3 and out. 15-30 yd pass down the sideline is saying we will get a big gain or nothing and then our defense can save us again. (This is a nice option to have by the way) Stitt said his conservative play calling in this game was to avoid turnovers, what kind of confidence does he have in this offense? The offensive mastermind we hired is now conservative? I know, whatever works right? (I agree to this to some degree as well)
Win Baby Win!

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I laugh anytime someone uses "offensive genius" or "offensive mastermind".

 

[PlayerRep]

I think field position had a tremendous affect on the play calling. Look at the first part of the game when we started in good field position, we were much more aggressive on play calling than when we were starting in the shadows of our goal post. Thought Stitt played it safe and trusted in his defense.

This is a very good point. UM had bad field position much of the time. I"m surprised that the field position didn't lead to another TD or two by UNI. A credit to the defense but also to the offense to some extent.

 

[66volvo]

This:

--no hurry up offense
--no imagination with handoffs to a 5' 7" RB off tackle
--No screens
--no mid-range middle field pass
Conservative offense? Yup. Win ugly? Maybe.

Still equals a win. We take it and get two weeks to prepare to win the Big Sky. Move on.

 

[reinell30]

I laugh anytime someone uses "offensive genius" or "offensive mastermind".

I was only paraphrasing what was said about Mr. Stitt before he was hired.

 

[garizzalies]

They controlled the game. I don't mind the conservative play calls on O, so long as they are aggressive on D. Can't be conservative on both ends. That's called booby-ball.
Stitt's O will take what they're given, while Traitorak's D would bend over and take it.

 

[tnt]

I hesitate to point out that Stitts play calling and game plan was what won the game. Coaching is what saved the win in the last half of the 4th. Clock management and the change of call to the QB draw the last series was a thing of beauty. Our last three coaches would have walked away with a L.

I enjoy a shoot out as much as the next guy and am sure we will see that yet this year, but so far Stitts use of the hand he has been dealt is pretty darn good.

Use the middle? After 4 turnovers last week, only an idiot would make that decision. The two times we tried this week were near catastrophes.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I hesitate to point out that Stitts play calling and game plan was what won the game. Coaching is what saved the win in the last half of the 4th. Clock management and the change of call to the QB draw the last series was a thing of beauty. Our last three coaches would have walked away with a L.

I enjoy a shoot out as much as the next guy and am sure we will see that yet this year, but so far Stitts use of the hand he has been dealt is pretty darn good.

Use the middle? After 4 turnovers last week, only an idiot would make that decision. The two times we tried this week were near catastrophes.

First, how many of those 4 turnovers were throws over the middle? Second, Gus's limitations are a big reason that the offense doesn't use the middle of the field.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I laugh anytime someone uses "offensive genius" or "offensive mastermind".

Hard to be an offensive genius when 70% of your drives start inside the 10 yard line.

 

[Ursus1]

Brady's best game was first meeting with NDSU...but go back and rewatch...numerous catches were up for grabs and Montana had amazing WR who went up and took the ball....this crew us not the same, no separation and not able to make the contested catch. Passing game will struggle unless something/someone changes.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Some WR's make the QB look good, some QB's make the WR's look good. Some people see Gus one way and some people see Gus the other.

 

[tnt]

I hesitate to point out that Stitts play calling and game plan was what won the game. Coaching is what saved the win in the last half of the 4th. Clock management and the change of call to the QB draw the last series was a thing of beauty. Our last three coaches would have walked away with a L.

I enjoy a shoot out as much as the next guy and am sure we will see that yet this year, but so far Stitts use of the hand he has been dealt is pretty darn good.

Use the middle? After 4 turnovers last week, only an idiot would make that decision. The two times we tried this week were near catastrophes.

First, how many of those 4 turnovers were throws over the middle? Second, Gus's limitations are a big reason that the offense doesn't use the middle of the field.

Doesn't matter. The chances of things going seriously arwy throwing up the middle are much higher up the middle. Are you saying that the limitations on this team don't figure into the game plan. That would put you in the position of saying Delaney was an offensive genius.......

 

[UMGriz75]

I hesitate to point out that Stitts play calling and game plan was what won the game. Coaching is what saved the win in the last half of the 4th. Clock management and the change of call to the QB draw the last series was a thing of beauty. Our last three coaches would have walked away with a L.

I enjoy a shoot out as much as the next guy and am sure we will see that yet this year, but so far Stitts use of the hand he has been dealt is pretty darn good.

Use the middle? After 4 turnovers last week, only an idiot would make that decision. The two times we tried this week were near catastrophes.

First, how many of those 4 turnovers were throws over the middle? Second, Gus's limitations are a big reason that the offense doesn't use the middle of the field.

Doesn't matter. The chances of things going seriously arwy throwing up the middle are much higher up the middle.

It is always safer not to have a live field behind the receiver. As a thing of beauty with a QB that can throw, rewatch the UM-UND game last year. There was virtually complete coverage, and between a QB and two WR's on the same wavelength, the throws to the outside were literally perfect, there was no opportunity for the NDU defense, and ... six touchdown passes as a result.

 

[brewskis]

I am beginning to form the conclusion that Stitt's offense sucks! Run Nguyen, again, then throw an out to the bench. WTF? Sitting in the stands, I could have had more receptions. Gus couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat! Another start like this and it is time for Chalich or Phillips. Gus runs the offense, I blame this no production on Mr. Stitt and his calling. Thank God for a defense! Throw the ball up the field, not left or right! When they did throw it up the field, Horner was wide open for the TD, the only one Gus had. The O-Line protected him fairly well, especially if you compare to the protection they gave him last year.
OK folks, what is the answer for an offense? Defense can't do it all. This game reminded me of last years Superbowl where Denver's D won the game and Payton Manning couldn't throw a pass to anyone.

So what is it, Stitt's offense or Gus?

To me it looked like Gus, although I'm not impressed with the strategy of the running game. Pretty vanilla really, but the line didn't help and Nguyen didn't have the best of games.

Brady just never gave our receivers a chance to catch the ball. Every pass was either in the dirt or overthrown.


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[HelenaHandBasket]

I hesitate to point out that Stitts play calling and game plan was what won the game. Coaching is what saved the win in the last half of the 4th. Clock management and the change of call to the QB draw the last series was a thing of beauty. Our last three coaches would have walked away with a L.

I enjoy a shoot out as much as the next guy and am sure we will see that yet this year, but so far Stitts use of the hand he has been dealt is pretty darn good.

Use the middle? After 4 turnovers last week, only an idiot would make that decision. The two times we tried this week were near catastrophes.

First, how many of those 4 turnovers were throws over the middle? Second, Gus's limitations are a big reason that the offense doesn't use the middle of the field.

Doesn't matter. The chances of things going seriously arwy throwing up the middle are much higher up the middle. Are you saying that the limitations on this team don't figure into the game plan. That would put you in the position of saying Delaney was an offensive genius.......

Just because the chances of something going wrong when throwing down the middle are increased, it doesn't mean you completely abandon it even with limitations. You must show a willingness so the defense has to respect it at a minimum.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I hesitate to point out that Stitts play calling and game plan was what won the game. Coaching is what saved the win in the last half of the 4th. Clock management and the change of call to the QB draw the last series was a thing of beauty. Our last three coaches would have walked away with a L.

I enjoy a shoot out as much as the next guy and am sure we will see that yet this year, but so far Stitts use of the hand he has been dealt is pretty darn good.

Use the middle? After 4 turnovers last week, only an idiot would make that decision. The two times we tried this week were near catastrophes.

First, how many of those 4 turnovers were throws over the middle? Second, Gus's limitations are a big reason that the offense doesn't use the middle of the field.

Doesn't matter. The chances of things going seriously arwy throwing up the middle are much higher up the middle. Are you saying that the limitations on this team don't figure into the game plan. That would put you in the position of saying Delaney was an offensive genius.......

I also like how you try to drop the 4 turnover stat for a reason to not use the middle of the field and then say it doesn't matter.