now NCAA investigation......

[grizindabox]

Growler, I will ask one more time. NAME the mis-fit- criminal players that Hauck brought in, that specifically contributed to wins, i.e. starter or at least signifigant playing time in MORE THAN ONE GAME...And you can skip Tru because No. 1 other than the Taser incident, which ended up being a misdemeanor, he has NEVER been in legal trouble. and 2. YOU AND Alpha are the ONLY ones who wish he wouldn't have came to MT. NAME the others.

Just because you bring in a misfit, criminal player to win games, does not mean that the misfit, criminal player actually contributes to win games.

 

[NotFoolingME]

Give it up you a...hole. Why would you bring the Bobcats into this? It's time we faced up to our own shortcomings and all you privileged insiders know that. Time to clean up our act and give Montana a good clean name and reputation. Be it MSU or UM. We have universities and programs that we can be proud of within our state and you all know that both teams need some shaking up in the last 3-4 years. You can only get by with so much. Secrets are the hardest thing to keep if their is more than one personal involved.

 

[garizzalies]

can someone refresh my memory? what was it a few years ago that EWU got in trouble for with the NCAA that lead to a ban from the playoffs? I seem to remember Wuff had too many practices or something like that but they appealed and were allowed to participate in the playoffs. IMO, Pflu's failure to report seems way worse than that in light of JoePa (if in fact that's what the NCAA is investigating).

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

My first thought is that with the Dept. of Education investigating UM partly for actions by members of the football team, the NCAA finally decided that they'd probably better take a look too, if for no other reason than to avoid looking like they just sat idly by in a case involving alleged sexual assaults by athletes, especially after the whole Penn St. thing. If the investigation reveals that Pflugrad didn't properly report incidents to his supervisor, then no big deal, he's already gone. But at least the NCAA can say they looked into it.

Seemingly so; that is to say, if you have a $ 100 million investment in something, then you have a $ 100 million investment to protect. Might just as well join the bandwagon in order to look good at it besides.

 

[Cats2506]

My first thought is that with the Dept. of Education investigating UM partly for actions by members of the football team, the NCAA finally decided that they'd probably better take a look too, if for no other reason than to avoid looking like they just sat idly by in a case involving alleged sexual assaults by athletes, especially after the whole Penn St. thing. If the investigation reveals that Pflugrad didn't properly report incidents to his supervisor, then no big deal, he's already gone. But at least the NCAA can say they looked into it.

Yeah, but the NCAA started their investigation before the DOJ or the DOE did, hell they started their investigation before the Foresters Ball :roll:

 

[wbtfg]

can someone refresh my memory? what was it a few years ago that EWU got in trouble for with the NCAA that lead to a ban from the playoffs? I seem to remember Wuff had too many practices or something like that but they appealed and were allowed to participate in the playoffs. IMO, Pflu's failure to report seems way worse than that in light of JoePa (if in fact that's what the NCAA is investigating).

If i remember correctly, i think EWU had more coaches than the ncaa allows. There was some confusion about how volunteer coaches count against the ncaa allowable number.

 

[Growler1]

one of my favorite things about this site.....many posters always have me feeling a little better about myself. and usually smarter..... :thumb:

That's what happens to those who get an inferiority complex because of a second-rate education at MSU.

:clap:
point proven..... :thumb:

i don't like msu and i don't think it's as good as montana tech for education but it is FAR from a second rate education!

MSU education is a joke

 

[NorthwestFresh]

can someone refresh my memory? what was it a few years ago that EWU got in trouble for with the NCAA that lead to a ban from the playoffs? I seem to remember Wuff had too many practices or something like that but they appealed and were allowed to participate in the playoffs. IMO, Pflu's failure to report seems way worse than that in light of JoePa (if in fact that's what the NCAA is investigating).

If i remember correctly, i think EWU had more coaches than the ncaa allows. There was some confusion about how volunteer coaches count against the ncaa allowable number.

For that, they received a postseason ban that they had to appeal.

We already know about obvious NCAA violations regarding boosters and players at UM, and that's admitted by the booster himself in the paper.

It's gonna get ugly.

 

[Growler1]

Growler, I will ask one more time. NAME the mis-fit- criminal players that Hauck brought in, that specifically contributed to wins, i.e. starter or at least signifigant playing time in MORE THAN ONE GAME...And you can skip Tru because No. 1 other than the Taser incident, which ended up being a misdemeanor, he has NEVER been in legal trouble. and 2. YOU AND Alpha are the ONLY ones who wish he wouldn't have came to MT. NAME the others.

I don't wish to engage in remedial education. If you are not smart enough to remember the gang-banger from ISU, the two thugs from the university of Arizona, et. al, then you should get smarter before posting. Regarding Tru, If you think his "West Coast" hand signals were anything other than gang sh*t, then you need to get out of the high line a little more.

 

[Growler1]

Nobody loves you when you're down.

Do you speak from personal experience? I've had some pretty awesome lovin' when I was down.......mostly on my back.

 

[PlayerRep]

Growler, I will ask one more time. NAME the mis-fit- criminal players that Hauck brought in, that specifically contributed to wins, i.e. starter or at least signifigant playing time in MORE THAN ONE GAME...And you can skip Tru because No. 1 other than the Taser incident, which ended up being a misdemeanor, he has NEVER been in legal trouble. and 2. YOU AND Alpha are the ONLY ones who wish he wouldn't have came to MT. NAME the others.

I don't wish to engage in remedial education. If you are not smart enough to remember the gang-banger from ISU, the two thugs from the university of Arizona, et. al, then you should get smarter before posting. Regarding Tru, If you think his "West Coast" hand signals were anything other than gang sh*t, then you need to get out of the high line a little more.

These 3 guys combined for 1 start, and that was only because Hilliard missed a game due to surgery. Those 3 had zero to do with UM's success. Coleman was thoroughly checked out, and had recommendations from the head coaches of various Big 10 and Big 12 coaches. One of them had not been in legal trouble previously.

 

[PTGrizzly]

That's what happens to those who get an inferiority complex because of a second-rate education at MSU.

:clap:
point proven..... :thumb:

i don't like msu and i don't think it's as good as montana tech for education but it is FAR from a second rate education!

MSU education is a joke

http://www.montana.edu/cpa/news/nwview.php?article=11094" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Growler1]

Growler, I will ask one more time. NAME the mis-fit- criminal players that Hauck brought in, that specifically contributed to wins, i.e. starter or at least signifigant playing time in MORE THAN ONE GAME...And you can skip Tru because No. 1 other than the Taser incident, which ended up being a misdemeanor, he has NEVER been in legal trouble. and 2. YOU AND Alpha are the ONLY ones who wish he wouldn't have came to MT. NAME the others.

I don't wish to engage in remedial education. If you are not smart enough to remember the gang-banger from ISU, the two thugs from the university of Arizona, et. al, then you should get smarter before posting. Regarding Tru, If you think his "West Coast" hand signals were anything other than gang sh*t, then you need to get out of the high line a little more.

These 3 guys combined for 1 start, and that was only because Hilliard missed a game due to surgery. Those 3 had zero to do with UM's success. Coleman was thoroughly checked out, and had recommendations from the head coaches of various Big 10 and Big 12 coaches. One of them had not been in legal trouble previously.

Who gives a sh*t about how many games they started, or how much they "contributed"!!! They were thugs, kicked off of IA teams because THEY WERE THUGS. Yet your boy Bobby took them in with open arms. The reason they didn't get to play, is because they committed criminal activities as soon as they hit campus, and were dismissed! Hello!

If you were any more stupid, you would have to watered twice a week! You are one of the main reasons that UM is facing the problems it is! Yeah YOU, big guy! You continue to be an apologist for Hauck, the criminal element on the team, etc. Why don't you find a new team to foster your agenda? You are not an alum, and have no connection to UM other than to try to be a big-dick insider.

 

[PlayerRep]

Growler, I will ask one more time. NAME the mis-fit- criminal players that Hauck brought in, that specifically contributed to wins, i.e. starter or at least signifigant playing time in MORE THAN ONE GAME...And you can skip Tru because No. 1 other than the Taser incident, which ended up being a misdemeanor, he has NEVER been in legal trouble. and 2. YOU AND Alpha are the ONLY ones who wish he wouldn't have came to MT. NAME the others.

I don't wish to engage in remedial education. If you are not smart enough to remember the gang-banger from ISU, the two thugs from the university of Arizona, et. al, then you should get smarter before posting. Regarding Tru, If you think his "West Coast" hand signals were anything other than gang sh*t, then you need to get out of the high line a little more.

These 3 guys combined for 1 start, and that was only because Hilliard missed a game due to surgery. Those 3 had zero to do with UM's success. Coleman was thoroughly checked out, and had recommendations from the head coaches of various Big 10 and Big 12 coaches. One of them had not been in legal trouble previously.

Who gives a sh*t about how many games they started, or how much they "contributed"!!! They were thugs, kicked off of IA teams because THEY WERE THUGS. Yet your boy Bobby took them in with open arms. The reason they didn't get to play, is because they committed criminal activities as soon as they hit campus, and were dismissed! Hello!

If you were any more stupid, you would have to watered twice a week! You are one of the main reasons that UM is facing the problems it is! Yeah YOU, big guy! You continue to be an apologist for Hauck, the criminal element on the team, etc. Why don't you find a new team to foster your agenda? You are not an alum, and have no connection to UM other than to try to be a big-dick insider.

HavGriz knew that you couldn't name anyone who was an important player, and that this would undercut your theory. The one AZ guy hadn't committed any criminal activities. I support the team against liars like yourself. I have no agenda, but support the team against liars like yourself. You are one of the two posters on egriz that alot of former players think is a total dickhead. Congrats. You must make your daughter proud. Ha=ha. She must be so embarrassed of you, just like your son was when he was here.

 

[OptimusPrime]

That's what happens to those who get an inferiority complex because of a second-rate education at MSU.

:clap:
point proven..... :thumb:

i don't like msu and i don't think it's as good as montana tech for education but it is FAR from a second rate education!

MSU education is a joke

I wish you had attended MSU, then you would have been able to take "How Not to Pick Your Ass in Public 101" that all freshman are required to enroll in. It's pretty much pass/fail. :thumb:

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

:clap:
point proven..... :thumb:

i don't like msu and i don't think it's as good as montana tech for education but it is FAR from a second rate education!

MSU education is a joke

I wish you had attended MSU, then you would have been able to take "How Not to Pick Your Ass in Public 101" that all freshman are required to enroll in. It's pretty much pass/fail. :thumb:

I wonder if "Growler1" takes into consideration the total amount of financial grants, research aids, that MSU has received, that is to say, earned, over the past five or ten years? Pretty impressive, if you ask me. IMHO

 

[Baller1]

Growler, I will ask one more time. NAME the mis-fit- criminal players that Hauck brought in, that specifically contributed to wins, i.e. starter or at least signifigant playing time in MORE THAN ONE GAME...And you can skip Tru because No. 1 other than the Taser incident, which ended up being a misdemeanor, he has NEVER been in legal trouble. and 2. YOU AND Alpha are the ONLY ones who wish he wouldn't have came to MT. NAME the others.

Does it really matter if they were major contributors or not? Many of the players Hauck brought in turned out to be legitimate criminals, and like it or not, they represented the university, Missoula and the state by being student athletes at UM. I'm not placing the blame exclusively on Hauck, but much of the off the field issues began to arise under his watch. So why get so defensive about Growler1's comments?

The last thing that should matter when considering the effect of the Football teams off the field issues on our community and University is playing-time and on the field contributions. Seems like only caring about what happens on the field is what has gotten us into this mess in the first place.

 

[PTGrizzly]

I don't wish to engage in remedial education. If you are not smart enough to remember the gang-banger from ISU, the two thugs from the university of Arizona, et. al, then you should get smarter before posting. Regarding Tru, If you think his "West Coast" hand signals were anything other than gang sh*t, then you need to get out of the high line a little more.

These 3 guys combined for 1 start, and that was only because Hilliard missed a game due to surgery. Those 3 had zero to do with UM's success. Coleman was thoroughly checked out, and had recommendations from the head coaches of various Big 10 and Big 12 coaches. One of them had not been in legal trouble previously.

Who gives a sh*t about how many games they started, or how much they "contributed"!!! They were thugs, kicked off of IA teams because THEY WERE THUGS. Yet your boy Bobby took them in with open arms. The reason they didn't get to play, is because they committed criminal activities as soon as they hit campus, and were dismissed! Hello!

If you were any more stupid, you would have to watered twice a week! You are one of the main reasons that UM is facing the problems it is! Yeah YOU, big guy! You continue to be an apologist for Hauck, the criminal element on the team, etc. Why don't you find a new team to foster your agenda? You are not an alum, and have no connection to UM other than to try to be a big-dick insider.

HavGriz knew that you couldn't name anyone who was an important player, and that this would undercut your theory. The one AZ guy hadn't committed any criminal activities. I support the team against liars like yourself. I have no agenda, but support the team against liars like yourself. You are one of the two posters on egriz that alot of former players think is a total dickhead. Congrats. You must make your daughter proud. Ha=ha. She must be so embarrassed of you, just like your son was when he was here.

You are aware that you're the other one, right?

 

[PTGrizzly]

Growler, I will ask one more time. NAME the mis-fit- criminal players that Hauck brought in, that specifically contributed to wins, i.e. starter or at least signifigant playing time in MORE THAN ONE GAME...And you can skip Tru because No. 1 other than the Taser incident, which ended up being a misdemeanor, he has NEVER been in legal trouble. and 2. YOU AND Alpha are the ONLY ones who wish he wouldn't have came to MT. NAME the others.

Does it really matter if they were major contributors or not? Many of the players Hauck brought in turned out to be legitimate criminals, and like it or not, they represented the university, Missoula and the state by being student athletes at UM. I'm not placing the blame exclusively on Hauck, but much of the off the field issues began to arise under his watch. So why get so defensive about Growler1's comments?

The last thing that should matter when considering the effect of the Football teams off the field issues on our community and University is playing-time and on the field contributions. Seems like only caring about what happens on the field is what has gotten us into this mess in the first place.

Excellent posting.

 

[George Ferguson]

i was a student at UM from 94-97 and there were A LOT OF OFF THE FIELD ISSUES WITH PLAYERS THEN...there was not..twitter, online news services, cell phones, internet (much), facebook and every other social and mass media tool there is today...those of you who think these issues didn't exist under don read and joe glenn are either MORONS, or you believe that it didn't matter because it didn't end up in the paper or in the police report which makes you from the school of "what people don't know won't hurt them"..and that's no better a philosophy imo...