Nobody Quit!

[SaskGriz]

Great. Glad you are no longer a Griz fan.

**Mod Edit** NOOOPE

**Mod Edit** NOOOPE

Only for the sake of accurate football history; The 1970 Dartmouth Football team did not beat Penn State. What has been referenced on here to prove Dartmouth's credentials is that in 1970 they were awarded a trophy called the Lambert Trophy or sometimes the Lambert Meadowlands Trophy. It was voted on by a group of New York sports writers. It was originally given to the team the writers think is the best in New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware and the District of Columbia. Later teams that played outside the region but in the traditional NE conferences were also considered; (Miami and Louisville)

The 1970 Dartmouth team went 9-0 sweeping the Ivy League, their two non-conference games were against U Mass (4-5-1) who played in the Yankee Conference and Holy Cross, an independent who finished (0-10-1).

In contrast Penn State came into the season undefeated in 22 games but lost early at ranked Colorado and at Wisconsin and then fell to 2-3 with a home loss to Syracuse. Penn State rallied to win their last five including blowing out ranked Pitt in the season finale. 7-3 with a roster that included NFL HOF's Franco Harris and Jack Ham, 2X All Pro Lydell Mitchell as well as 12 year NFL punter/receiver Bob Parsons and QB John Huffnagel, most famous for being Dave Dickenson's boss with the Stampeders.

Would Dartmouth have beaten the Nittany Lions; no way to know.

Interestingly, Syracuse who beat Penn State and were also eligible for the Lambert were embroiled in the "Syracuse Nine" racial controversy and player boycott and limped to a 6-4 season despite the accolades for beating the Nittany Lions at Beaver Stadium.

This concludes Paul Harvey's broadcast...good day.

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

So Dartmouth beat 9 other non-scholarship schools and won an award that no one on the board has ever heard of?
Impressive.

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

Okay, let’s bet on whether I have been in France for over 3 weeks. Brint and Elrod can show you the photos I sent them.

you must be talking to someone else as I believe you were in France. I am in the minority here lately and I think the Griz are going to win most of their remaining games. Only one I am little concerned with is Idaho not to mistaken with Idaho state.

I actually think that ISU is going to be a surprisingly tough out. I'm in the minority here, in that I fear a quick slants offense or anything that lets them drop a quick pass over the top of our blitzing LB's. ISU likes to do that a lot. I think we're going to win plenty of games this year still, but I don't want us to look past ISU here.

 

[Catsrgrood]

I often see people on here complain and not understand why posters from other teams (mostly Cat fans) spend their time on this board, “rent free” is a term thrown around a lot.

I’d like to enter this thread as exhibit A as to why I, for one, come to this board a couple times a week during the season to see what’s going on, what’s being said, etc.

The fighting amongst the board, the name calling, but most of all the delusion (PR has hit a new low this week), it just has it all.
This place is pure entertainment.

Win a couple games? National title contenders. Lose a game you shouldn’t have? Blow it up, won’t win another game all year. It’s hyberbole at its best.

We’re all fans of our teams, are invested, financially and/or emotionally to the outcome of the games and season, overreactions and hot takes are what message boards are about. But the extremes on this board are what make it so great.

But what do I know, I didn’t even play college football…

 

[Lord Vigo]

If the Cats two QB’s and OL doesn’t fit the Griz, offense, that means your team has a big problem. The Cats offensive stats so far this year are way better than the Griz even with them already playing two very tough teams. You really don’t think the Griz would be better with the Cats QBs and OL?

Hoops, do you have a answer on this? Would also be interested to know if you think the Griz RBs are better than the Cat RBs?

It obviously goes without saying that you and anyone else are entitled to post however you want on this forum within its rules. But I don't understand why so many people choose to debate or argue with hoopsfan. He's the definition of a pathetic homer and he wants his nonsense to be engaged. I don't see the point.

 

[CatzWillRise]

I always focused on the quitter, but take a look at Walker's "block" (at LT). It is embarrassingly bad effort. If that's what Germer can do with a player...wow

You dumbasses who say you have watched the clip many times, know so little about football and have bad eyes,
that you haven’t noticed that the center snapped the ball ahead of the snap count. He snaps and stands up. None of the other linemen move, as they are waiting for the snap count. NAU defenders all get a head start because they are watching the ball being snapped. This play was shown at qb club multiples times, and discussed. The ball was snapped early multiple times in the game.

Some of you posters are so devoid of football knowledge. I had to cut my France trip short to get back in order to get some of you yahoos under control. I departed Paris today.

I have had messages saying I need to get back,
including from people I don’t know. Even from a Cat fan. Even he seems to be embarrassed by some of
your stupid posts.

Talk about about a bunch of quitters. You bad Griz fans. “My team lost a game they should have won. I am not going to watch games anymore.”

People wanted you back because of exactly how this thread has gone since this post. :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

You dumbasses who say you have watched the clip many times, know so little about football and have bad eyes,
that you haven’t noticed that the center snapped the ball ahead of the snap count. He snaps and stands up. None of the other linemen move, as they are waiting for the snap count. NAU defenders all get a head start because they are watching the ball being snapped. This play was shown at qb club multiples times, and discussed. The ball was snapped early multiple times in the game.

Some of you posters are so devoid of football knowledge. I had to cut my France trip short to get back in order to get some of you yahoos under control. I departed Paris today.

I have had messages saying I need to get back,
including from people I don’t know. Even from a Cat fan. Even he seems to be embarrassed by some of
your stupid posts.

Talk about about a bunch of quitters. You bad Griz fans. “My team lost a game they should have won. I am not going to watch games anymore.”

People wanted you back because of exactly how this thread has gone since this post. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: He had "messages saying I needed to get back"....yeah, I'm sure there were just dozens of people on here begging for him to come home early from Europe to set eGriz straight! :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

[retiredpopo]

You should give up your seasons tickets too. The program doesn’t need complainers like you. I know how much CFO’s of credit unions make. And for you, it doesn’t matter what you are capable of giving, because you are never going to give much. UM has accountants and CFO who have made a lot more and give a lot more than you. Kem played for
the Griz and has been a big supporter for decades. He can do what he wants, in my opinion. He has earned it.

Actually, I’ve already stated I’m giving up my season tickets. I’m taking Kem’s approach that he took with Stitt. I’m not donating or spending another dime until Hauck and his fishing buddies are gone. And you a) have no idea how much I’ve ALREADY given nor b) how much I’m WILLING to give. Nor do you know how much I make despite your insistence that you know everything about credit union CFO’s. Christ on a crutch, is there NOTHING you don’t view yourself as an expert on? Do you know how delusional that makes you sound? (BTW: I also have military retirement :lol: ). So no, despite all your blathering and lame attempts to defend the indefensible, you know less than zero about me.

And here’s a newsflash: I can do what I want, too. You don’t have to have played for the Griz to have that right. I’m a lifelong fan that’s seen enough mediocrity and that wants change. Doesn’t make me a bad fan or a complainer. Defending the poop we saw Saturday? THAT makes you a bad fan, willing to accept mediocrity because it’s your (perceived) buddy in the coach’s office.

BTW: I DO bet…and I WILL take your offer of a $100 bet on the ‘Scat game. Straight up. I think the ‘Scats win, you think the Griz will win. I’ve seen NOTHING this year that would indicate we’re in the same league as the ‘Scats (or Idaho or Sac for that matter), but I don’t think you’ve got the guts to take me up on it.

Griz win, I pay you $100
‘Scats win, you pay me $100

I’d love nothing more than to be sending you $100 after the 18th of November, but I feel pretty confident that’s not going to happen.
(Now comes the part where you accuse me of being a ‘Scat fan because I don’t think the Griz are good enough to compete)…

you betting guys with money should make this interesting for us non betting guys with no money. be cool and make the game 100X more interesting if you upped the amount to $1000. Even rich guys probably hate loosing $1000. that would be like me loosing a dollar which i hate to do.

 

[poorgriz]

Almost every play. your OL, and especially #61 plays for about three seconds every play, then he's done, regardless of whether the play is still going or not. Super lazy. Thank God the Cats don't play like that.

Oh, BS.

Re watch it. You clearly never played OL, and don't understand OL play.

 

[poorgriz]

Hoops, do you have a answer on this? Would also be interested to know if you think the Griz RBs are better than the Cat RBs?

Yes. Way better and way deeper.

That's what she said. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I agree - Bobby and crew have out recruited and better developed MSU players at pretty much every position, and that is now showing up on the field. You guys are lucky to have him. As a Cat fan I wish he would just retire but unfortunately it looks like he's going to be around a loooooong time. Dang it.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Actually, I’ve already stated I’m giving up my season tickets. I’m taking Kem’s approach that he took with Stitt. I’m not donating or spending another dime until Hauck and his fishing buddies are gone. And you a) have no idea how much I’ve ALREADY given nor b) how much I’m WILLING to give. Nor do you know how much I make despite your insistence that you know everything about credit union CFO’s. Christ on a crutch, is there NOTHING you don’t view yourself as an expert on? Do you know how delusional that makes you sound? (BTW: I also have military retirement :lol: ). So no, despite all your blathering and lame attempts to defend the indefensible, you know less than zero about me.

And here’s a newsflash: I can do what I want, too. You don’t have to have played for the Griz to have that right. I’m a lifelong fan that’s seen enough mediocrity and that wants change. Doesn’t make me a bad fan or a complainer. Defending the poop we saw Saturday? THAT makes you a bad fan, willing to accept mediocrity because it’s your (perceived) buddy in the coach’s office.

BTW: I DO bet…and I WILL take your offer of a $100 bet on the ‘Scat game. Straight up. I think the ‘Scats win, you think the Griz will win. I’ve seen NOTHING this year that would indicate we’re in the same league as the ‘Scats (or Idaho or Sac for that matter), but I don’t think you’ve got the guts to take me up on it.

Griz win, I pay you $100
‘Scats win, you pay me $100

I’d love nothing more than to be sending you $100 after the 18th of November, but I feel pretty confident that’s not going to happen.
(Now comes the part where you accuse me of being a ‘Scat fan because I don’t think the Griz are good enough to compete)…

you betting guys with money should make this interesting for us non betting guys with no money. be cool and make the game 100X more interesting if you upped the amount to $1000. Even rich guys probably hate loosing $1000. that would be like me loosing a dollar which i hate to do.

I'd bet him any amount he's willing to wager. But I ALSO bet he's not willing to take me up on the offer.

 

[mthoopsfan]

**Mod Edit** NOOOPE

Only for the sake of accurate football history; The 1970 Dartmouth Football team did not beat Penn State. What has been referenced on here to prove Dartmouth's credentials is that in 1970 they were awarded a trophy called the Lambert Trophy or sometimes the Lambert Meadowlands Trophy. It was voted on by a group of New York sports writers. It was originally given to the team the writers think is the best in New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware and the District of Columbia. Later teams that played outside the region but in the traditional NE conferences were also considered; (Miami and Louisville)

The 1970 Dartmouth team went 9-0 sweeping the Ivy League, their two non-conference games were against U Mass (4-5-1) who played in the Yankee Conference and Holy Cross, an independent who finished (0-10-1).

In contrast Penn State came into the season undefeated in 22 games but lost early at ranked Colorado and at Wisconsin and then fell to 2-3 with a home loss to Syracuse. Penn State rallied to win their last five including blowing out ranked Pitt in the season finale. 7-3 with a roster that included NFL HOF's Franco Harris and Jack Ham, 2X All Pro Lydell Mitchell as well as 12 year NFL punter/receiver Bob Parsons and QB John Huffnagel, most famous for being Dave Dickenson's boss with the Stampeders.

Would Dartmouth have beaten the Nittany Lions; no way to know.

Interestingly, Syracuse who beat Penn State and were also eligible for the Lambert were embroiled in the "Syracuse Nine" racial controversy and player boycott and limped to a 6-4 season despite the accolades for beating the Nittany Lions at Beaver Stadium.

This concludes Paul Harvey's broadcast...good day.

Dartmouth was ranked No. 14 in the end of season D-I rankings, ahead of no. 18 Penn St, as well as ahead of USC, Oklahoma and Alabama. Penn St had won the Lambert Trophy all but 1 of about a dozen years during that time. Penn St’s running backs were Franco Harris and Lydell Mitchell. Dartmouth clobbered Boston college in 2 pre-season games during that time. NFL running back Fred Willis played for BC then.

A Sports Illustrated article from that season.

https://vault.si.com/vault/1970/11/09/just-ask-the-tailgate-set-who-is-no-1

Another SI article on that Dartmouth season.

https://vault.si.com/.amp/vault/1987/08/31/a-big-year-for-big-green

Article on Dartmouth v Yale game.

https://www.footballstudyhall.com/platform/amp/2017/5/9/15582206/1970-dartmouth-football-bob-blackman-yale

Ed Marinaro of Cornell led the nation in rushing in 1970 and 1971. Calvin Hill had just graduated from Yale. Dick Jauron was at Yale. Greg Landry had just finished at UMass. Princeton and Holy Cross had NFL running backs.

 

[The.Real.2506]

If the Cats two QB’s and OL doesn’t fit the Griz, offense, that means your team has a big problem. The Cats offensive stats so far this year are way better than the Griz even with them already playing two very tough teams. You really don’t think the Griz would be better with the Cats QBs and OL?

Nope. Because Griz couldn’t run the offense it wants to run and has used for multiple years.

Its looking like that is part of the problem, the Cats offense has evolved each of the last 3 years under the current staff. While there are similarities there are also significant differences. Take for example the '21 offense, it used a more traditional QB with a lot of inside zone, while it was somewhat successful it finally cumulated in a big loss to um, this caused our staff to switch QB and that meant moving to more of a +1 run game and more outside zone.
'22 was more based on outside zone since ifanse was out most of the season, but with 2 qb's it meant that we could rely heavily on the +1 game.
'23 so far is showing a lot more emphases on the passing game, especially the short and mid crossing routes since we are absent a true deep thread, also the WSU game showed a lot of QB under center with inside/outside zone and QB boot roll out, it is definitely a different look with a lot of the same concepts but it is due to the current availability of players.

This is something I think BH's staff is missing, adjusting their scheme to the current availability of players and getting the most out of what is on the roster.

Instead they are running the scheme that they want to run and they don't have players to do it effectively.

 

[3-7-77]

you must be talking to someone else as I believe you were in France. I am in the minority here lately and I think the Griz are going to win most of their remaining games. Only one I am little concerned with is Idaho not to mistaken with Idaho state.

I actually think that ISU is going to be a surprisingly tough out. I'm in the minority here, in that I fear a quick slants offense or anything that lets them drop a quick pass over the top of our blitzing LB's. ISU likes to do that a lot. I think we're going to win plenty of games this year still, but I don't want us to look past ISU here.

Before the NAU game, I warned one and all about being "complacent." Game played INDOORS AT 7,000 FEET! Different environment, indeed. So, our team leisurely saunters out of the tunnel and onto, in front of a spare 'crowd.' And promptly gets it's ass handed to them. That is on Bobby, period.
I watched ISU football for many years. They surprised a lot of teams. They will play tough in WGS. Always have. New coach has probably already has considerable help from Daddy. I will have a complementary Kool Aid stand outside the NEZ North Exit and will be using a bullhorn,a ala Jim Jones, for those of you too dejected to raise your head to look for help.
I don't feel good about his team,coaches, or outlook for the rest of the year. I could be wrong, and will admit it if a "new and improved Griz football team" shows up. What I saw at NAU couldn't compete in the Frontier Conference.

 

[GrizRealist]

Only for the sake of accurate football history; The 1970 Dartmouth Football team did not beat Penn State. What has been referenced on here to prove Dartmouth's credentials is that in 1970 they were awarded a trophy called the Lambert Trophy or sometimes the Lambert Meadowlands Trophy. It was voted on by a group of New York sports writers. It was originally given to the team the writers think is the best in New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware and the District of Columbia. Later teams that played outside the region but in the traditional NE conferences were also considered; (Miami and Louisville)

The 1970 Dartmouth team went 9-0 sweeping the Ivy League, their two non-conference games were against U Mass (4-5-1) who played in the Yankee Conference and Holy Cross, an independent who finished (0-10-1).

In contrast Penn State came into the season undefeated in 22 games but lost early at ranked Colorado and at Wisconsin and then fell to 2-3 with a home loss to Syracuse. Penn State rallied to win their last five including blowing out ranked Pitt in the season finale. 7-3 with a roster that included NFL HOF's Franco Harris and Jack Ham, 2X All Pro Lydell Mitchell as well as 12 year NFL punter/receiver Bob Parsons and QB John Huffnagel, most famous for being Dave Dickenson's boss with the Stampeders.

Would Dartmouth have beaten the Nittany Lions; no way to know.

Interestingly, Syracuse who beat Penn State and were also eligible for the Lambert were embroiled in the "Syracuse Nine" racial controversy and player boycott and limped to a 6-4 season despite the accolades for beating the Nittany Lions at Beaver Stadium.

This concludes Paul Harvey's broadcast...good day.

Dartmouth was ranked No. 14 in the end of season D-I rankings, ahead of no. 18 Penn St, as well as ahead of USC, Oklahoma and Alabama. Penn St had won the Lambert Trophy all but 1 of about a dozen years during that time. Penn St’s running backs were Franco Harris and Lydell Mitchell. Dartmouth clobbered Boston college in 2 pre-season games during that time. NFL running back Fred Willis played for BC then.

A Sports Illustrated article from that season.

https://vault.si.com/vault/1970/11/09/just-ask-the-tailgate-set-who-is-no-1

Another SI article on that Dartmouth season.

https://vault.si.com/.amp/vault/1987/08/31/a-big-year-for-big-green

Article on Dartmouth v Yale game.

https://www.footballstudyhall.com/platform/amp/2017/5/9/15582206/1970-dartmouth-football-bob-blackman-yale

Ed Marinaro of Cornell led the nation in rushing in 1970 and 1971. Calvin Hill had just graduated from Yale. Dick Jauron was at Yale. Greg Landry had just finished at UMass. Princeton and Holy Cross had NFL running backs.

Holy fook. Can we ban talking about fooking Dartmouth football? Take it to the Dartmouth board...

 

[3-7-77]

This is something I think BH's staff is missing, adjusting their scheme to the current availability of players and getting the most out of what is on the roster.

Instead they are running the scheme that they want to run and they don't have players to do it effectively.

Ever used an algorithm? A finely tuned algorithm is good for some things, like bringing the clinically dead back to life, or stopping a heart beating way too fast. I think the Griz algorithm is NOT finely tuned. Call it their game plan if you like. We've seen it time and time again. Street ball might be effective. 'Run down to the garbage cans, then button hook. I'll hit you with a pass.' Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBYTZSvMCgEsbqjmm9T2ZQUI01IdNVflr7wqgg-2ysdw&s

 

[mthoopsfan]

Dartmouth was ranked No. 14 in the end of season D-I rankings, ahead of no. 18 Penn St, as well as ahead of USC, Oklahoma and Alabama. Penn St had won the Lambert Trophy all but 1 of about a dozen years during that time. Penn St’s running backs were Franco Harris and Lydell Mitchell. Dartmouth clobbered Boston college in 2 pre-season games during that time. NFL running back Fred Willis played for BC then.

A Sports Illustrated article from that season.

https://vault.si.com/vault/1970/11/09/just-ask-the-tailgate-set-who-is-no-1

Another SI article on that Dartmouth season.

https://vault.si.com/.amp/vault/1987/08/31/a-big-year-for-big-green

Article on Dartmouth v Yale game.

https://www.footballstudyhall.com/platform/amp/2017/5/9/15582206/1970-dartmouth-football-bob-blackman-yale

Ed Marinaro of Cornell led the nation in rushing in 1970 and 1971. Calvin Hill had just graduated from Yale. Dick Jauron was at Yale. Greg Landry had just finished at UMass. Princeton and Holy Cross had NFL running backs.

Holy fook. Can we ban talking about fooking Dartmouth football? Take it to the Dartmouth board...

Note that I didn’t start the topic. But feel free to keep bringing up the subject. I have a lot more.

I suppose you want to get back to Griz fans quitting on the team.

 

[3-7-77]

https://twitter.com/PaulDMorton/status/1706449578533527910/video/1

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Must be my lying eyes.

 

[Mousegriz]

https://twitter.com/PaulDMorton/status/1706449578533527910/video/1

Must be my lying eyes.
[/quote]

No wonder hoops prefers talking Dartmouth. I think he wore 61 when he played.

 

[poorgriz]

That #61 literally could not wait to get off that field, get the hell out of that game to go eat and head back to Missoula.