No Way JJ Can Be Convicted

[UMGriz75]

I don't blame you.

I would be frustrated too if I had stupidly tried to claim that JJ was an "alcohol fueled sexual predator" -- because it fits your stereotypes -- and then get publicly humiliated to find that because I didn't actually have any idea what the "actual facts" of the case are because I was so busy fantasizing about the "facts that no one knows about," that everyone else who took the time already knew that the complaining witness didn't think he had been drinking at all.

Yeah, you're a sharpie, all right.

 

[AZDoc]

Go Griz!

 

[tnt]

I don't blame you.

I would be frustrated too if I had stupidly tried to claim that JJ was an "alcohol fueled sexual predator" -- because it fits your stereotypes -- and then get publicly embarrassed to find that because I didn't actually have any idea what the "actual facts" of the case are because I was so busy fantasizing about the "facts that no one knows about," that everyone else who took the time already knew that the complaining witness didn't think he had been drinking at all.

Yeah, you're a sharpie, all right.

That's interesting not that I can make sense of it. Does putting quote marks around a compilation of words make them a statement? JJ claims to be have drinking. The accuser mentioned a change in his demeanor, the word on campus is JJ changes (as many do) when he has been drinking. JJs attorney said he was drinking, so the suggestion alcohol may have changed or clouded his judgement is unreasonable? Then you suggested that the accuser was a real wack job fantasizing a relationship with JJ and everybody knew it. I did suggest IF that were the case taking advantage of it to have sex with her was most certainly NOT reflective of "high moral character" and could be considered predatory.

Putting those two things to paint JJ as an "alcohol fuel sexual predator" certainly would make one wonder how you put things together.

 

[UMGriz75]

I don't blame you.

I would be frustrated too if I had stupidly tried to claim that JJ was an "alcohol fueled sexual predator" -- because it fits your stereotypes -- and then get publicly embarrassed to find that because I didn't actually have any idea what the "actual facts" of the case are because I was so busy fantasizing about the "facts that no one knows about," that everyone else who took the time already knew that the complaining witness didn't think he had been drinking at all.

Yeah, you're a sharpie, all right.

Ping.

 

[AZGrizFan]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Go Griz!

:lol:

 

[UMGriz75]

Putting those two things to paint JJ as an "alcohol fuel sexual predator" certainly would make one wonder how you put things together.

It was easy. I quoted you:

TNT: With in those 'texts" I am told, there is a pretty clear picture of who/what JJ knew was dealing with, and it ain't pretty, he moves from a good guy helping make a girls day, to very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol. JJ does have some history as being a "different person" when drinking. He also has some baggage from high school according a teacher I know from there. He likes getting his way.

No wonder you "wonder."

 

[UMGriz75]

TNT: Then you suggested that the accuser was a real wack job fantasizing a relationship with JJ and everybody knew it.

It is interesting how you need to misquote people in order to make your point. I never said that "everybody knew it." Indeed, the information first appears during the interviews made after the charges were filed.

Just not caring about those "facts" again ...

I know it would interfere with your fantasies, but you might save everyone some time and yourself endless embarrassment if you just sat down and read the court documents available.

 

[GrizPony]

Putting those two things to paint JJ as an "alcohol fuel sexual predator" certainly would make one wonder how you put things together.

It was easy. I quoted you:

TNT: With in those 'texts" I am told, there is a pretty clear picture of who/what JJ knew was dealing with, and it ain't pretty, he moves from a good guy helping make a girls day, to very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol. JJ does have some history as being a "different person" when drinking. He also has some baggage from high school according a teacher I know from there. He likes getting his way.

No wonder you "wonder."

Boom! TNT can't even remember what he types from one minute to the next. ha :?

 

[tnt]

TNT: Then you suggested that the accuser was a real wack job fantasizing a relationship with JJ and everybody knew it.

It is interesting how you need to misquote people in order to make your point. I never said that "everybody knew it." Indeed, the information first appears during the interviews made after the charges were filed.

Just not caring about those "facts" again ...

I know it would interfere with your fantasies, but you might save everyone some time and yourself endless embarrassment if you just sat down and read the court documents available.

Read 'em, nobody reads things quite the way you do for sure or is able to pull out of context the way you do..... Its gotta be hard jumping to conclusions half cocked even when posting the quote. You really gotta watch how you rearrange those sentences. A problem you have had with a number of things.

 

[UMGriz75]

Putting those two things to paint JJ as an "alcohol fuel sexual predator" certainly would make one wonder how you put things together.

It was easy. I quoted you:

TNT: With in those 'texts" I am told, there is a pretty clear picture of who/what JJ knew was dealing with, and it ain't pretty, he moves from a good guy helping make a girls day, to very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol. JJ does have some history as being a "different person" when drinking. He also has some baggage from high school according a teacher I know from there. He likes getting his way.

No wonder you "wonder."

This underscores my early point on this thread about how false stories and fantasy stories are exposed; just ask the witness to tell the story over again. When a story line is based on a fabrication, the story is never the same twice.

That has already happened to Jane Doe in this case, and I happen to think it is fatal to the case. She has changed virtually every significant detail. And it won't get better when she re-tells it a third and fourth time because it never does.

TNT provided a good example. Having fabricated a variety of incriminating details about JJ, from "the word on campus", "I am told," and from former teachers IN OREGON-- ol' TNT seems to really "get around" and really be fascinated with JJ -- he could not remember that he was the source of the fabrication of "alcohol fueled sexual predator" in the first place.

Because, of course, he had never actually heard it from anyone, so he was surprised to see the description having forgotten that he was the one who made it up in the first place.

That's how it works, and that how lies are exposed.

 

[tnt]

You are getting closer, but still very far off. Alcohol fueled predator (in quotes no less) is not at all what was said was it. Granted those words all existed, but not quite with that twist in that order or with that meaning.

 

[UMGriz75]

You are getting closer, but still very far off. Alcohol fueled predator (in quotes no less) is not at all what was said was it. Granted those words all existed, but not quite with that twist in that order or with that meaning.

Wow. This is exactly how, in your artistic and imaginative hands, "It's all good!" became "she was raped!" Yes, there are the same number of words in the sentence, but ...

 

[tnt]

You are getting closer, but still very far off. Alcohol fueled predator (in quotes no less) is not at all what was said was it. Granted those words all existed, but not quite with that twist in that order or with that meaning.

Wow. This is exactly how "It's all good!" became "she was raped!"

No you have said numerous times it meant she wasn't......

I keep asking what "It" means

 

[UMGriz75]

You are getting closer, but still very far off. Alcohol fueled predator (in quotes no less) is not at all what was said was it. Granted those words all existed, but not quite with that twist in that order or with that meaning.

Wow. This is exactly how "It's all good!" became "she was raped!"

No you have said numerous times it meant she wasn't......

Uh huh.

 

[argh!]

Putting those two things to paint JJ as an "alcohol fuel sexual predator" certainly would make one wonder how you put things together.

It was easy. I quoted you:

TNT: With in those 'texts" I am told, there is a pretty clear picture of who/what JJ knew was dealing with, and it ain't pretty, he moves from a good guy helping make a girls day, to very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol. JJ does have some history as being a "different person" when drinking. He also has some baggage from high school according a teacher I know from there. He likes getting his way.

No wonder you "wonder."

Boom! TNT can't even remember what he types from one minute to the next. ha :?

fizzle! at least he doesn't go by an offensive, ass-clownish alias or think that it is cool for twenty year old males to treat women like he treats his blow up sex doll. ha (insert lame emoticon)

 

[PlayerRep]

The motion says JJ had had "a couple of beers".

 

[AZGrizFan]

You are getting closer, but still very far off. Alcohol fueled predator (in quotes no less) is not at all what was said was it. Granted those words all existed, but not quite with that twist in that order or with that meaning.

Please explain for the laypeople the vast difference in meaning between "alcohol fueled predator" and "predator when fueled with alcohol".

We await your well thought out, reasoned, unbiased response.

 

[tnt]

You are getting closer, but still very far off. Alcohol fueled predator (in quotes no less) is not at all what was said was it. Granted those words all existed, but not quite with that twist in that order or with that meaning.

Please explain for the laypeople the vast difference in meaning between "alcohol fueled predator" and "predator when fueled with alcohol".

We await your well thought out, reasoned, unbiased response.

leaving out 2/3 the statement as have you and 75 would make that a bit more difficult, but even adding one word (near) from the quote would change it dramatically.

But then 75 still hasn't told us what "It" is yet.......

 

[UMGriz75]

But then 75 still hasn't told us what "It" is yet.......

You are the specialist at telling us that what "she" said is not what "she" meant. And that "what she meant is not what she said." You tell us.

You are sounding like Bill Clinton.

 

[AZGrizFan]

You are getting closer, but still very far off. Alcohol fueled predator (in quotes no less) is not at all what was said was it. Granted those words all existed, but not quite with that twist in that order or with that meaning.

Please explain for the laypeople the vast difference in meaning between "alcohol fueled predator" and "predator when fueled with alcohol".

We await your well thought out, reasoned, unbiased response.

leaving out 2/3 the statement as have you and 75 would make that a bit more difficult, but even adding one word (near) from the quote would change it dramatically.

But then 75 still hasn't told us what "It" is yet.......

OK. Please explain the vast difference between "alcohol fuled predator" and "very nearly a predator when fueled with alcohol".