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No one knows where people are getting infected

HelenaHandBasket said:
Cuervohola said:
More like people. Vox doesn't employ many real journalists. There are no real journalists at the NYT, WAPO, CNN, MSNBC etc. Fox News has a few, then there are independent sources that might be conservative or liberal, but they stick to the facts. It's rare.

As far as Vox, the headline is "The government’s failure to provide economic relief is killing people." Okay, that sounds accurate, but there is a picture of Mitch, no picture of Nancy and no mention of either. There is no mention of the actual reason there hasn't been a second relief check or a third. That would be Nancy insisting that abortion and checks for illegals be included, which Mitch and Trump said no to. Now of course, Nancy knows that would fail, but it makes Trump look bad instead of good with the checks rolling out, and she has $250 Million anyway.

This didn't answer the question.

I said it... Stick to the facts.
 
OK, I confess. I ride crowded elevators and cough and sneeze. I find the air intakes on buildings and do the same. I have several vials of the plague, just in case. I'm actually a Chinese Communist Party operative known as Whu Flung Dung. Made a fortune. 8-)
 
tourist said:
OK, I confess. I ride crowded elevators and cough and sneeze. I find the air intakes on buildings and do the same. I have several vials of the plague, just in case. I'm actually a Chinese Communist Party operative known as Whu Flung Dung. Made a fortune. 8-)

we already knew that was what you were really up to, mr. 谁扔屎.
 
Well Look what we have right here. The MEDIA was reporting it wrong...

SHOCKING!

Not the HONEST DEMON RAT MEDIA! NOT THEM!!!

"Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud... That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated... The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations"
 
Cuervohola said:
Well Look what we have right here. The MEDIA was reporting it wrong...

SHOCKING!

Not the HONEST DEMON RAT MEDIA! NOT THEM!!!

"Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud... That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated... The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations"

Pretty sure most reports I have seen state that the JD had not found any evidence to support fraud. Not sure who is saying that the Department has concluded its investigation.
 
Speaking of the facts, this presentation from a Stanford Med School professor is the best I've seen. It’s full of data that, while not hidden, isn’t easy to get, and most certainly not in such an absorbable presentation.

https://tinyurl.com/yyx8ark6
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Cuervohola said:
Well Look what we have right here. The MEDIA was reporting it wrong...

SHOCKING!

Not the HONEST DEMON RAT MEDIA! NOT THEM!!!

"Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud... That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated... The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations"

Pretty sure most reports I have seen state that the JD had not found any evidence to support fraud. Not sure who is saying that the Department has concluded its investigation.

"That would change the outcome"... Sounds conclusive to me.
 
Cuervohola said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Pretty sure most reports I have seen state that the JD had not found any evidence to support fraud. Not sure who is saying that the Department has concluded its investigation.

"That would change the outcome"... Sounds conclusive to me.

Not sure what your point is. Barr himself stated that.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Cuervohola said:
"That would change the outcome"... Sounds conclusive to me.

Not sure what your point is. Barr himself stated that.

Because the AP says he said it, you believe it? Can you find audio / video of him saying the original statement?
 
kemajic said:
Speaking of the facts, this presentation from a Stanford Med School professor is the best I've seen. It’s full of data that, while not hidden, isn’t easy to get, and most certainly not in such an absorbable presentation.

https://tinyurl.com/yyx8ark6

That's a good one. I found these select points very interesting:

"Whereas COVID is not deadly for children, for older people it is much more deadly than the seasonal flu. If you look at studies worldwide, the COVID fatality rate for people 70 and up is about four percent—four in 100 among those 70 and older, as opposed to two in 1,000 in the overall population.

"Again, this huge difference between the danger of COVID to the young and the danger of COVID to the old is the most important fact about the virus. Yet it has not been sufficiently emphasized in public health messaging or taken into account by most policymakers."

"[o]ur strategy is not to let people die, but to protect the vulnerable. We know the people who are vulnerable, and we know the people who are not vulnerable."


It's a shame that we all have to be treated as vulnerable when the data show otherwise. 70+ stay at home order from the start, and everything else normal (with precautions), and would we be closer to herd immunity? Kind of seems that way from this article. Interesting.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Cuervohola said:
Because the AP says he said it, you believe it? Can you find audio / video of him saying the original statement?

Any of your 'real sources" have proof that he didn't?

There has to be video for either, but some of the Leftist "real" sources said he said it was concluded, so they had to issue the correction.

None of the mainstream Leftist "real" sources issued the second statement.
 
Cuervohola said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Any of your 'real sources" have proof that he didn't?

There has to be video for either, but some of the Leftist "real" sources said he said it was concluded, so they had to issue the correction.

None of the mainstream Leftist "real" sources issued the second statement.

Which "leftist" sources said it was concluded?
 
CDAGRIZ said:
kemajic said:
Speaking of the facts, this presentation from a Stanford Med School professor is the best I've seen. It’s full of data that, while not hidden, isn’t easy to get, and most certainly not in such an absorbable presentation.

https://tinyurl.com/yyx8ark6

That's a good one. I found these select points very interesting:

"Whereas COVID is not deadly for children, for older people it is much more deadly than the seasonal flu. If you look at studies worldwide, the COVID fatality rate for people 70 and up is about four percent—four in 100 among those 70 and older, as opposed to two in 1,000 in the overall population.

"Again, this huge difference between the danger of COVID to the young and the danger of COVID to the old is the most important fact about the virus. Yet it has not been sufficiently emphasized in public health messaging or taken into account by most policymakers."

"[o]ur strategy is not to let people die, but to protect the vulnerable. We know the people who are vulnerable, and we know the people who are not vulnerable."


It's a shame that we all have to be treated as vulnerable when the data show otherwise. 70+ stay at home order from the start, and everything else normal (with precautions), and would we be closer to herd immunity? Kind of seems that way from this article. Interesting.

Yep. We should have doubled down on protecting the vulnerable. That should have driven all policy decisions.

The vulnerable include all of the fatties in ND. That state should have had a wall built around it.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Cuervohola said:
There has to be video for either, but some of the Leftist "real" sources said he said it was concluded, so they had to issue the correction.

None of the mainstream Leftist "real" sources issued the second statement.

Which "leftist" sources said it was concluded?

The AG dept. didn't say.
 
Cuervohola said:
Well Look what we have right here. The MEDIA was reporting it wrong...

SHOCKING!

Not the HONEST DEMON RAT MEDIA! NOT THEM!!!

"Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud... That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated... The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations"

Cuervo they still got not a thing or rather nothing. Let us know when a grand jury brings indictments then you might be on to something. Trumps own DHLS election security guy Krebs who was tasked 3 years ago with make this election secure, said it was most transparent and secure election in history. Then trump fired him by tweet. Sorry to tell you this, but the fraud allegations are a fraud. Rudy is pursing them so he gets pardoned and Trump is raising money off of it, 170m so far which obviously isn’t being spent on lawyers. It’s a scam to assuage trumps ego by the GOP. But keep donating. Lol
 
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