No one knows where people are getting infected

[Cuervohola]

Besides masks, Vaccines, Ventilators??? You have to tell what you're talking about.

You're trying to defeat me over something that doesn't exist. That makes no sense. If you say that the Admin had no plan and no supplies such as PPE for an outbreak, then I can ask Why is that? Because the Obama admin didn't have anything either.

What I am saying is the admin developed no National plan. Trump pushed the hard decisions onto the States and then kept telling everyone the end was right around the corner. Well, after 250,000 deaths, we are still waiting for that corner.

You HAVE TO SAY the end is around the corner. You HAVE TO reassure the public and keep things calm. NOBODY knew anything about Covid, and according to the massive failures by the vaccine companies, nobody knows much now.

WITH the reassurances by the President and his staff, all we have had is problems getting toilet paper and canned corn and shit. Do you know how many more people would have died, especially in cesspools like NYC, if he allowed widespread panic to ensue?

He did his job as a real leader.

 

[PlayerRep]

I don't know what QAnon is, and I don't subscribe to Libtard ideology, AKA "conspiracy theories". When something doesn't fit the Libtard's grand plan, they call it a "conspiracy theory", and you sheep regurgitate it.

Now, if you were adept at reading comprehension, you would figure out that before Covid existed, it didn't exist.

So how do you plan for something that doesn't exist?

But Covid has existed for 10+ months, yet what National plan was implemented by Trump during that time?

The US plan is and has been, close borders, increase testing and tracing, increase production of supplies, support healthcare facilities, provide up to date CDC guidelines, work with governors and states and support them, encourage and support more and fast research, assist and support in developing and districting vaccines and other drugs, encourage use of masks, encourage selective closures, etc. what Trump has done to encourage and assist development of vaccines and other drugs is very impressive.

I saw some big CNN announcer saying that the emerging Biden covid plan is “eerily similar” to what Trump has been doing.

Biden has talked about a national mask mandate, but even he admits that he doesn’t have authority to do that outside of things like federal property states have that authority. Also, Fauci is concerned that an attempted national mandate might backfire and cause a lot of people to not wear masks.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

But Covid has existed for 10+ months, yet what National plan was implemented by Trump during that time?

The US plan is and has been, close borders, increase testing and tracing, increase production of supplies, support healthcare facilities, provide up to date CDC guidelines, work with governors and states and support them, encourage and support more and fast research, assist and support in developing and districting vaccines and other drugs, encourage use of masks, encourage selective closures, etc. what Trump has done to encourage and assist development of vaccines and other drugs is very impressive.

I saw some big CNN announcer saying that the emerging Biden covid plan is “eerily similar” to what Trump has been doing.

Biden has talked about a national mask mandate, but even he admits that he doesn’t have authority to do that outside of things like federal property states have that authority. Also, Fauci is concerned that an attempted national mandate might backfire and cause a lot of people to not wear masks.

Testing is lagging behind to the point that is nothing but a reactive activity instead of a proactive one and contact tracing has been implemented so poorly that it is currently noneffective. Most healthcare facilities are still facing shortages of supplies, and the WH is doing nothing more to having the CDC fit their narrative than that of the science. One of the largest issues is the lack of continuity between how states are handling the virus, and without a lack of a national framework, so they can work in unison, what one state does can be counter productive to what a neighboring state is doing. I also understand that some people will not wear a mask, but when the person, the President, fails to indorse mask wearing, and practice mask wearing, then that leads to others not believing that wearing a mask is not necessary. I give Trump all the credit in the world for the vaccine process, but we are still months away from that becoming a mainstream prevention method. The President should be reinforcing the precautions that we we have, and he has failed in that respect. I also am not saying that a national mask mandate, or any other drastic step is required, but a national framework for steps to be taken at local levels depending on conditions, cases, in that area would have done a better job than the hodge podge approach left to each state.

 

[ilovethecats]

The US plan is and has been, close borders, increase testing and tracing, increase production of supplies, support healthcare facilities, provide up to date CDC guidelines, work with governors and states and support them, encourage and support more and fast research, assist and support in developing and districting vaccines and other drugs, encourage use of masks, encourage selective closures, etc. what Trump has done to encourage and assist development of vaccines and other drugs is very impressive.

I saw some big CNN announcer saying that the emerging Biden covid plan is “eerily similar” to what Trump has been doing.

Biden has talked about a national mask mandate, but even he admits that he doesn’t have authority to do that outside of things like federal property states have that authority. Also, Fauci is concerned that an attempted national mandate might backfire and cause a lot of people to not wear masks.

Testing is lagging behind to the point that is nothing but a reactive activity instead of a proactive one and contact tracing has been implemented so poorly that it is currently noneffective. Most healthcare facilities are still facing shortages of supplies, and the WH is doing nothing more to having the CDC fit their narrative than that of the science. One of the largest issues is the lack of continuity between how states are handling the virus, and without a lack of a national framework, so they can work in unison, what one state does can be counter productive to what a neighboring state is doing. I also understand that some people will not wear a mask, but when the person, the President, fails to indorse mask wearing, and practice mask wearing, then that leads to others not believing that wearing a mask is not necessary. I give Trump all the credit in the world for the vaccine process, but we are still months away from that becoming a mainstream prevention method. The President should be reinforcing the precautions that we we have, and he has failed in that respect. I also am not saying that a national mask mandate, or any other drastic step is required, but a national framework for steps to be taken at local levels depending on conditions, cases, in that area would have done a better job than the hodge podge approach left to each state.

Great post.

I've said before but mask, no mask, travelling, holidays, weddings, funerals, protests etc....my biggest disappointment in the last 9 months has been the testing. It's just awful and always has been. For a point of reference, when I tested positive I got me positive result via app on my phone on my FOURTEENTH day after my close contact! I literally got my results on my last day of quarantine. In my case I was very sick and bedridden so the positive didn't matter. But just imagine all the positive people with little to no symptoms. Then we wonder why this thing is spreading like mad.

I hope we learn our lesson and if god forbid we go through something like this again, they find a way to make testing MUCH better.

 

[fanofzoo]

Sorry to interrupt the Trump fest, but I am thankful this day for all the recounts and court activity centered around the election, this way we can watch him lose twice, maybe three times, have a nice holiday, your friend, yogi

How delusional does one have to be to think Biden got MILLIONS more votes from real people, when some locations had more votes than people registered? That's only one example.

How about the massive Trump rallies versus 7 people showing up for Biden?

How about the massive motorcades for Trump, when 3 people show up for Biden?

Yeah, Biden "Won"... Okie Dokie.

[media]https://youtu.be/uU262SpjfgM[/media]

[media]https://youtu.be/3ADa7ySy21A[/media]

Super spreader events don't mean jack, who cares how many people came (and got sick) it's the vote total that counts

80>73

donny ( little d) inherited an economy on at least 3rd base after W screwed the pooch for Obama and he brought it around, remember.

Swamp ? How many of donnys team got indited and arrested for basically being un-american, stupid or both.

My god your still with fox, thought you have gone to oan by now.

 

[GRIZ PHAN]

Trump lost the national election by over 6 million votes. Biden will win win the electoral college vote by 306 to 232. Biden will be the next President of the United States. That is how democracy works. The person with the most votes wins. In the USA we do not select a candidate, Trump included, based on the size of his rallies and the enthusiasm of his rabid supporters, that include white nationalists and Qanon and other conspiracists. Over 50 percent of the voters cast their ballot for Biden. Looks like the silent majority has spoken.

Cuervohola, you may want to check out Qanon. Looks like your on the same team.

 

[Cuervohola]

How delusional does one have to be to think Biden got MILLIONS more votes from real people, when some locations had more votes than people registered? That's only one example.

How about the massive Trump rallies versus 7 people showing up for Biden?

How about the massive motorcades for Trump, when 3 people show up for Biden?

Yeah, Biden "Won"... Okie Dokie.

[media]https://youtu.be/uU262SpjfgM[/media]

[media]https://youtu.be/3ADa7ySy21A[/media]

Super spreader events don't mean jack, who cares how many people came (and got sick) it's the vote total that counts

80>73

donny ( little d) inherited an economy on at least 3rd base after W screwed the pooch for Obama and he brought it around, remember.

Swamp ? How many of donnys team got indited and arrested for basically being un-american, stupid or both.

My god your still with fox, thought you have gone to oan by now.

Sure, don't mention the super spreader riots all over the place. Why do you leave that out? Oh yeah, by the way, most people at the Trump rallies wore masks.

Terrorist sympathizer Obama's economy was in the gutter AFTER 8 years, along with the Military, which he let go down the drain.

You're just pissed that Trump had the best economy in our History prior to Covid, AND it's coming back as well.

Boo Hoo.

 

[Cuervohola]

Trump lost the national election by over 6 million votes. Biden will win win the electoral college vote by 306 to 232. Biden will be the next President of the United States. That is how democracy works. The person with the most votes wins. In the USA we do not select a candidate, Trump included, based on the size of his rallies and the enthusiasm of his rabid supporters, that include white nationalists and Qanon and other conspiracists. Over 50 percent of the voters cast their ballot for Biden. Looks like the silent majority has spoken.

Cuervohola, you may want to check out Qanon. Looks like your on the same team.

You aren't even worth talking to, you're so desperately reaching for straws that aren't there. Try to brush up on your facts, and come one back, now ya hear?

Look up "Lowest Unemployment for minorities" and "Opportunity zones"

Fucking Rookies trying to post messages...

 

[PlayerRep]

Trump lost the national election by over 6 million votes. Biden will win win the electoral college vote by 306 to 232. Biden will be the next President of the United States. That is how democracy works. The person with the most votes wins. In the USA we do not select a candidate, Trump included, based on the size of his rallies and the enthusiasm of his rabid supporters, that include white nationalists and Qanon and other conspiracists. Over 50 percent of the voters cast their ballot for Biden. Looks like the silent majority has spoken.

Cuervohola, you may want to check out Qanon. Looks like your on the same team.

Biden won CA by 5.1 million votes and NY by 1.1 million votes.

 

[PlayerRep]

Testing is lagging behind to the point that is nothing but a reactive activity instead of a proactive one and contact tracing has been implemented so poorly that it is currently noneffective. Most healthcare facilities are still facing shortages of supplies, and the WH is doing nothing more to having the CDC fit their narrative than that of the science. One of the largest issues is the lack of continuity between how states are handling the virus, and without a lack of a national framework, so they can work in unison, what one state does can be counter productive to what a neighboring state is doing. I also understand that some people will not wear a mask, but when the person, the President, fails to indorse mask wearing, and practice mask wearing, then that leads to others not believing that wearing a mask is not necessary. I give Trump all the credit in the world for the vaccine process, but we are still months away from that becoming a mainstream prevention method. The President should be reinforcing the precautions that we we have, and he has failed in that respect. I also am not saying that a national mask mandate, or any other drastic step is required, but a national framework for steps to be taken at local levels depending on conditions, cases, in that area would have done a better job than the hodge podge approach left to each state.

Great post.

I've said before but mask, no mask, travelling, holidays, weddings, funerals, protests etc....my biggest disappointment in the last 9 months has been the testing. It's just awful and always has been. For a point of reference, when I tested positive I got me positive result via app on my phone on my FOURTEENTH day after my close contact! I literally got my results on my last day of quarantine. In my case I was very sick and bedridden so the positive didn't matter. But just imagine all the positive people with little to no symptoms. Then we wonder why this thing is spreading like mad.

I hope we learn our lesson and if god forbid we go through something like this again, they find a way to make testing MUCH better.

Much of the post is not accurate or not relevant.

 

[PlayerRep]

The US has administered 186 million tests.

 

[ilovethecats]

Great post.

I've said before but mask, no mask, travelling, holidays, weddings, funerals, protests etc....my biggest disappointment in the last 9 months has been the testing. It's just awful and always has been. For a point of reference, when I tested positive I got me positive result via app on my phone on my FOURTEENTH day after my close contact! I literally got my results on my last day of quarantine. In my case I was very sick and bedridden so the positive didn't matter. But just imagine all the positive people with little to no symptoms. Then we wonder why this thing is spreading like mad.

I hope we learn our lesson and if god forbid we go through something like this again, they find a way to make testing MUCH better.

Much of the post is not accurate or not relevant.

Of my post? Or the one I quoted? His opinion about testing was VERY relevant in my personal experience.

I suppose I could have just quoted the part about testing which is really what I was responding to.

 

[Spanky2]

I don’t know what more the President could have done about Covid that he didn’t do. My opinion is he has done an excellent job and approached the challenges as a businessman, culminating with the Warp Speed program for the vaccines.

 

[PlayerRep]

Much of the post is not accurate or not relevant.

Of my post? Or the one I quoted? His opinion about testing was VERY relevant in my personal experience.

I suppose I could have just quoted the part about testing which is really what I was responding to.

prior post

 

[Spanky2]

Some that think Joe Biden can do better must be thinking of the Joe Biden 25 years ago. They couldn’t possibly be thinking of Joe Biden today who can’t finish a sentence. If his election stands after the legal challenges, it will be tragic.

 

[PlayerRep]

"Covid-19 Deaths Top 100,000 in U.S. Long-Term Care Facilities"

"The Covid-19 death toll linked to U.S. nursing homes and other long-term care facilities has surpassed 100,000, according to a Wall Street Journal tally of data from around the U.S.

The Journal’s tally of state, federal and local data also includes more than 670,000 probable and confirmed Covid-19 cases in long-term care, affecting both residents and staff members. The real death toll and case counts are likely higher due to delays in some states’ reporting and gaps in the numbers. For example, New York state doesn’t specify counts for nursing-home cases or Covid-19-linked deaths among nursing residents who died outside the facility, which often occurs when the sick are sent to hospitals."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-deaths-top-100-000-in-u-s-long-term-care-facilities-11606333186

 

[yogi]

Speaking of good decisions, what does it say about your judgment when, in seeking to overturn an election, you choose two lunatics to man your “elite strike force”? Sad. your friend, yogi

 

[Cuervohola]

Some that think Joe Biden can do better must be thinking of the Joe Biden 25 years ago. They couldn’t possibly be thinking of Joe Biden today who can’t finish a sentence. If his election stands after the legal challenges, it will be tragic.

He wasn't the sharpest tool back then either. If he takes the post this time, it will be short lived. Pelosi herself made it obvious by introducing legislation to use the 25th Amendment to remove the President, and it wasn't about Trump because this was just a while ago.

All they have to do is have Harris say Biden is unfit for office, have a majority of Biden's cabinet and Pelosi agree, and it's done, Harris is President. Harris is wickedly evil.

Now, in the grand scheme of things, none of that matters because there is ALREADY a Civil War within the Democrat party between the Blue Dogs, which are very few, the Socialists / Communists, and the Whackos like Ocasio the Queen of all Dipshits. They will rip each other apart, and combined with lots of them wanting to get rid of Pelosi, it should be a fun Shit show to watch.

Then in 4 years, after they let the illegals run free, get free health care, put lower economic people out of work by depressing the labor market, ship jobs off to Biden's buddies in China, try to take guns HAHAHA, etc... The country, including the Democrats that realize their party doesn't exist, will happily vote Republican.

Of course, the Democrat will have more votes than the entire amount of registered voters in county after county again, but no biggie!

 

[PlayerRep]

Speaking of Pelosi. This WaPost op-ed says Pelosi opposed negotiating on the stimulus bill because she didn't want Trump to get credit for sending out stimluus checks with his name on them before the election."

"Three weeks before Election Day, CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer asked House Speaker Nancy Pelosi what millions of Americans were thinking: Why was she refusing a White House offer of $1.8 trillion in covid-19 relief? “There are millions of Americans who have lost their jobs, they can’t pay the rent, their kids need the food,” Blitzer told Pelosi. He noted that she had written to her caucus that “the president only wants his name on a check to go out before Election Day” and asked, “Is that what this is all about, to not allow the president to take credit if there’s a deal that would help millions of Americans right now?”

Struggling Americans don’t care whose name is on the check. They just need the money. But Pelosi seems to care less about getting them the help they need than stopping Trump from sharing credit for a bipartisan solution. Why else turn down multiple GOP offers for covid relief? In July, Senate Republicans offered $1.1 trillion, including $300 billion for stimulus checks to Americans, $200 billion to help small businesses, $110 billion for unemployment benefits, and $105 billion in aid to state and local governments. In September, the White House raised the offer to $1.6 trillion. In October, the president increased it further to $1.8 trillion. But Pelosi steadfastly refused, insisting on $2.2 trillion or nothing. Twice, Senate Republicans tried to pass more limited $500 billion bills, but Democrats filibustered both. Why not accept one of these offers? The only logical answer is that any stimulus would have boosted the economy before the election, and Pelosi was willing to drive the economy into a ditch to hurt Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/19/trump-isnt-obstacle-coronavirus-aid-pelosi-is/

 

[Spanky2]

They really are a bunch of crooks: Biden, Obama, Hillary, Kerry, Hunter. My concern is we may not have a country to worry about in a year or two. Joe has been on the take with Xi and others with Hunter as the front man. It should be obvious to even the most fervent democrat that Joe in the catbird seat will have his hand out more than ever. The people that support Biden are blind to the harm they have done to our country.