No one knows where people are getting infected

[horribilisfan8184]

I wonder how many would have gotten sick from any droplets, mist, or errant spit that may have come from the waitress had she not been wearing a mask? So maybe, just maybe, it saved the other 10...but the moral of the story, drink from sanitized glassware, it is the savior.

If the waitress didn't wear a mask, the entire restaurant would have been infected and the 10 that didn't get sick would have come down with the virus. Therefore, the mask reduced the spread by at least 10.

Reading comprehension fellas. She was asymptomatic until the following day. But thanks for revealing your preconceived outcomes. And since I'm now immune and safe to be around, you can have your fear, I'll take my freedom.

 

[TrueGriz]

If the waitress didn't wear a mask, the entire restaurant would have been infected and the 10 that didn't get sick would have come down with the virus. Therefore, the mask reduced the spread by at least 10.

Reading comprehension fellas. She was asymptomatic until the following day. But thanks for revealing your preconceived outcomes. And since I'm now immune and safe to be around, you can have your fear, I'll take my freedom.

I read it all. People with covid become contagious within 2 to 3 days after getting it and before any symptoms Since you say she came down with symptoms, she was not asymptomatic but presymptomatic, but that doesn't matter, they are both contagious. She may have been at the most contagious period of her sickness at the time she infected you.

That is why it is important to wear masks. To protect others from asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people like that waitress. Thankfully, that waitress was wearing a mask. She may have touched it and then touch your glass afterward and infected you, but at least her wearing the mask stopped the spread from infecting 10 or more people.

As for the waitress touching the mask, that is the waitresses fault, not the masks. Restaurants are one of the worst places to be during a pandemic. Stay away from them.

As for your immunity, your antibodies from it will probably decline after 3 months. Hope your not one of the really unlucky ones that gets it twice. The second time seems to be the worst.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Reading comprehension fellas. She was asymptomatic until the following day. But thanks for revealing your preconceived outcomes. And since I'm now immune and safe to be around, you can have your fear, I'll take my freedom.

I read it all. People with covid become contagious within 2 to 3 days after getting it and before any symptoms Since you say she came down with symptoms, she was not asymptomatic but presymptomatic, but that doesn't matter, they are both contagious. She may have been at the most contagious period of her sickness at the time she infected you.

That is why it is important to wear masks. To protect others from asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people like that waitress. Thankfully, that waitress was wearing a mask. She may have touched it and then touch your glass afterward and infected you, but at least her wearing the mask stopped the spread from infecting 10 or more people.

As for the waitress touching the mask, that is the waitresses fault, not the masks. Restaurants are one of the worst places to be during a pandemic. Stay away from them.

As for your immunity, your antibodies from it will probably decline after 3 months. Hope your not one of the really unlucky ones that gets it twice. The second time seems to be the worst.

Wrong. Now that the election is over the studies showing immunity that mimics 3 years or more in other viruses are seeing the light of day. I see the fear propaganda found a fertile purchase in you.

 

[TrueGriz]

I read it all. People with covid become contagious within 2 to 3 days after getting it and before any symptoms Since you say she came down with symptoms, she was not asymptomatic but presymptomatic, but that doesn't matter, they are both contagious. She may have been at the most contagious period of her sickness at the time she infected you.

That is why it is important to wear masks. To protect others from asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people like that waitress. Thankfully, that waitress was wearing a mask. She may have touched it and then touch your glass afterward and infected you, but at least her wearing the mask stopped the spread from infecting 10 or more people.

As for the waitress touching the mask, that is the waitresses fault, not the masks. Restaurants are one of the worst places to be during a pandemic. Stay away from them.

As for your immunity, your antibodies from it will probably decline after 3 months. Hope your not one of the really unlucky ones that gets it twice. The second time seems to be the worst.

Wrong. Now that the election is over the studies showing immunity that mimics 3 years or more in other viruses are seeing the light of day. I see the fear propaganda found a fertile purchase in you.

Nope, For most people that may correct because after the antibodies decline or disappear, there are t-cells that help you fight whatever virus it is. This is likely for most people, except for a very few unlucky people.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I'm not buying what the illuminati is selling regarding T-cells or antibodies. New studies are suggesting that it's not the antibodies or T-cells that you want, it's the IMB-cells. IMB-cells, like T-cells, are known to help the body fight off viral infections. In one study, researchers found that the IMB-cell count was a 327.6% more reliable predictor of staving off subsequent COVID infections than T-cell count among the 12 patients studied in Fayetteville, Arkansas. Of course, this is all a moot point because the main thing is to reiterate that the Government should have made sure that the virus didn't spread in the first place. I don't know why they didn't just make it not spread, but I'm going to talk about it for years to come. As the late, great Ron Ash always said, "The best way to convert on 4th down is to talk in the huddle about whose fault it was that you didn't convert on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down." Want to take a guess what his IMB-cell count was? It was 43. Think about that.

 

[Hoops watcher]

I wonder how many would have gotten sick from any droplets, mist, or errant spit that may have come from the waitress had she not been wearing a mask? So maybe, just maybe, it saved the other 10...but the moral of the story, drink from sanitized glassware, it is the savior.

If the waitress didn't wear a mask, the entire restaurant would have been infected and the 10 that didn't get sick would have come down with the virus. Therefore, the mask reduced the spread by at least 10.

This large study (China FWIW) finds that asymptomatic people did not spread Kung Flu. Actual study linked in the article. https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/read-new-wuhan-study-asymptomatic-covid-19-patients-apparently-not-significant-spreaders/

 

[argh!]

If the waitress didn't wear a mask, the entire restaurant would have been infected and the 10 that didn't get sick would have come down with the virus. Therefore, the mask reduced the spread by at least 10.

This large study (China FWIW) finds that asymptomatic people did not spread Kung Flu. Actual study linked in the article. https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/read-new-wuhan-study-asymptomatic-covid-19-patients-apparently-not-significant-spreaders/

that's an interesting study, for sure. figuring out the best hypothesis to account for the results will be difficult. i thought it was interesting that the authors postulated that the virus might be less virulent than before. i certainly hope so.

 

[grizatwork]

It is pretty easy to find some sort of study that fits your political belief system. I prefer to make a lot of my life decisions on Pascal's wager. In short, he made a 4 square decision tree on whether to believe in God. The x axis was I believe and don't believe and the y axis was God exists and doesn't exist. The short of it is he decided that not believing and god existing had too much risk (eternal damnation) and the believing and he does exist and he does had too much reward (eternal life). Believe and no God nothing lost or gained. Don't believe and no god nothing lost or gained.

In this case, it is mask or no mask on the x axis and it works or doesn't work on the y axis. If you mask and it works you save lives, potentially your own. If you mask and it doesn't, you are where you started. If you don't mask and it turns out masks work, you could potentially cause death or disability in yourself or others. If you don't mask and masks don't work, then nothing lost. I prefer to operate on the basis of "what if it helps?" Wearing a mask doesn't cause me any inconvenience and the potential reward is worth it and the potential risk of not wearing one is too high for me.

Anecdotal evidence of this is the fact that my wife and I both tested positive. I have my own medical clinic. I wear a mask, my staff masks and my patients mask. Through tracing and testing, no one other than myself has tested positive. That is a group that includes probably 30-100 plus people depending on what you consider close contact. 30 for close, plus70 plus for being in our building. Also, no one else in our family has been positive either. Probably another 15 people. My wife who has been working remotely spent half a day in the office and was in contact for a few minutes with someone who is not a mask wearer and also had a Halloween party a few days prior. Of the 8 people in the office that day, 4 have tested positive (my wife one of them) and I tested positive from that. One is older and find to find someone to care for her dad as she was sick enough that they recommended hospitalization. I don't consider this scientific data, but I know my situation and how it has played out.

I don't consider masking and staying home an infringement on my freedom. I consider it my duty to help out my neighbors, state and country. It has kept my staff and patients safe and I will continue to do it. Just some food for thought.

 

[AZGrizFan]

It is pretty easy to find some sort of study that fits your political belief system. I prefer to make a lot of my life decisions on Pascal's wager. In short, he made a 4 square decision tree on whether to believe in God. The x axis was I believe and don't believe and the y axis was God exists and doesn't exist. The short of it is he decided that not believing and god existing had too much risk (eternal damnation) and the believing and he does exist and he does had too much reward (eternal life). Believe and no God nothing lost or gained. Don't believe and no god nothing lost or gained.

In this case, it is mask or no mask on the x axis and it works or doesn't work on the y axis. If you mask and it works you save lives, potentially your own. If you mask and it doesn't, you are where you started. If you don't mask and it turns out masks work, you could potentially cause death or disability in yourself or others. If you don't mask and masks don't work, then nothing lost. I prefer to operate on the basis of "what if it helps?" Wearing a mask doesn't cause me any inconvenience and the potential reward is worth it and the potential risk of not wearing one is too high for me.

Anecdotal evidence of this is the fact that my wife and I both tested positive. I have my own medical clinic. I wear a mask, my staff masks and my patients mask. Through tracing and testing, no one other than myself has tested positive. That is a group that includes probably 30-100 plus people depending on what you consider close contact. 30 for close, plus70 plus for being in our building. Also, no one else in our family has been positive either. Probably another 15 people. My wife who has been working remotely spent half a day in the office and was in contact for a few minutes with someone who is not a mask wearer and also had a Halloween party a few days prior. Of the 8 people in the office that day, 4 have tested positive (my wife one of them) and I tested positive from that. One is older and find to find someone to care for her dad as she was sick enough that they recommended hospitalization. I don't consider this scientific data, but I know my situation and how it has played out.

I don't consider masking and staying home an infringement on my freedom. I consider it my duty to help out my neighbors, state and country. It has kept my staff and patients safe and I will continue to do it. Just some food for thought.

Grizatwork, I agree with everything you just said. The issue becomes when these sanctions (masks, stay at home orders, social distancing, etc) are mandated and forced upon us, and then ROUTINELY not followed by the VERY individuals who insist that the proletariat MUST follow them. It’s as if being a politician makes you somehow immune to the effects.... the massive hypocrisy being foisted upon us makes intelligent people take pause and wonder what the REAL reason behind all these mandates that are destroying our economy are really for....

 

[TrueGriz]

If the waitress didn't wear a mask, the entire restaurant would have been infected and the 10 that didn't get sick would have come down with the virus. Therefore, the mask reduced the spread by at least 10.

This large study (China FWIW) finds that asymptomatic people did not spread Kung Flu. Actual study linked in the article. https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/read-new-wuhan-study-asymptomatic-covid-19-patients-apparently-not-significant-spreaders/

The study is about asymptomatic people. Maybe we can believe it.

but the waitress in question was pre-symptomatic. Asymptomatic people have a lower viral load. Not the case with pre-symptomatic people.

Study, also done in Wuhan, people became infectious 2 to 3 days before symptoms:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0869-5

 

[kemajic]

the massive hypocrisy being foisted upon us makes intelligent people take pause and wonder what the REAL reason behind all these mandates that are destroying our economy are really for....

To set up the reset.

 

[fanofzoo]

the massive hypocrisy being foisted upon us makes intelligent people take pause and wonder what the REAL reason behind all these mandates that are destroying our economy are really for....

To set up the reset.

Saving lives
KISS---keep it simple stupid
wear the mask and don't be a snowflake

 

[Cuervohola]

the massive hypocrisy being foisted upon us makes intelligent people take pause and wonder what the REAL reason behind all these mandates that are destroying our economy are really for....

To get rid of President Trump. The problem with that is they are idiots. Even if they are successful and Harris becomes President, the country will want to get BACK to prosperity more than when they rejected the cabal the first time Trump was elected. Even Democrat voters will see how horrible the policies will affect their lives, stuff their Fake News doesn't tell them, like the basics of the promised massive tax raises that will take place. My prediction is it will be so bad, they won't even be able to steal the 2022 and 2024 elections.

 

[fanofzoo]

the massive hypocrisy being foisted upon us makes intelligent people take pause and wonder what the REAL reason behind all these mandates that are destroying our economy are really for....

To get rid of President Trump. The problem with that is they are idiots. Even if they are successful and Harris becomes President, the country will want to get BACK to prosperity more than when they rejected the cabal the first time Trump was elected. Even Democrat voters will see how horrible the policies will affect their lives, stuff their Fake News doesn't tell them, like the basics of the promised massive tax raises that will take place. My prediction is it will be so bad, they won't even be able to steal the 2022 and 2024 elections.

Kind of like when donny promised your 401k will tank if Joe is elected and the market responded to the election by hitting 30,000, guess who not being missed.

 

[PlayerRep]

To get rid of President Trump. The problem with that is they are idiots. Even if they are successful and Harris becomes President, the country will want to get BACK to prosperity more than when they rejected the cabal the first time Trump was elected. Even Democrat voters will see how horrible the policies will affect their lives, stuff their Fake News doesn't tell them, like the basics of the promised massive tax raises that will take place. My prediction is it will be so bad, they won't even be able to steal the 2022 and 2024 elections.

Kind of like when donny promised your 401k will tank if Joe is elected and the market responded to the election by hitting 30,000, guess who not being missed.

The market has been and going up, mostly because enough investors have faith in the underlying economy, earnings have been surprisingly good, the prior covid stimulus measure, the announcement of the multiple covid vaccines, the fact that the Dems don't control, the Senate and lost seats in the House, etc., as well as the many things Trump did to support the business and the economy in his term. Also, the market knows that Biden will push for considerably more stimulus. The big reasons for the market going up under Trump were the corporate and individual tax cuts and big decrease in regulations. If Biden succeeds in increasing taxes significantly, and reverses alot of the deregulation, those things will have a negative impact on the market. With the vaccine announcements, I think the market would be up more if Trump had been elected.

 

[Cuervohola]

To get rid of President Trump. The problem with that is they are idiots. Even if they are successful and Harris becomes President, the country will want to get BACK to prosperity more than when they rejected the cabal the first time Trump was elected. Even Democrat voters will see how horrible the policies will affect their lives, stuff their Fake News doesn't tell them, like the basics of the promised massive tax raises that will take place. My prediction is it will be so bad, they won't even be able to steal the 2022 and 2024 elections.

Kind of like when donny promised your 401k will tank if Joe is elected and the market responded to the election by hitting 30,000, guess who not being missed.

Sleepy China the Rapist Pedophile isn't in office yet. And, going by the Libtard rule, everything in the first 2 years (only if it's good) is credit to the old Admin.

So what do you want to say about that?

 

[Spanky2]

A crooked pervert with dementia as president.

 

[fanofzoo]

Kind of like when donny promised your 401k will tank if Joe is elected and the market responded to the election by hitting 30,000, guess who not being missed.

Sleepy China the Rapist Pedophile isn't in office yet. And, going by the Libtard rule, everything in the first 2 years (only if it's good) is credit to the old Admin.

So what do you want to say about that?

donny never gave the O any credit so he doesn't deserve it either, the lying bastard.

 

[Cuervohola]

Sleepy China the Rapist Pedophile isn't in office yet. And, going by the Libtard rule, everything in the first 2 years (only if it's good) is credit to the old Admin.

So what do you want to say about that?

donny never gave the O any credit so he doesn't deserve it either, the lying bastard.

What did Obama do? Nothing. A 16 year old with no experience could do the same thing as a "community organizer" with no experience... Just sit there, get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING, and don't do what Bush did.

WOW!!!!

As far as Lying, how is Sleepy China and his anti - Wall Street stance?

Oh yeah, bringing in 2 people with DEEP TIES to Wall Street.

 

[Spanky2]

John Kerry, another crook as bad as Biden. They will prosper with China.