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No Longer Rumour?

Grizfan1968 said:
Hauck doesn't bleed maroon, he doesn't bleed. This guy is a piece of Sh*t. He goes after Pflugrads coaches, he goes after our recruits knowing full well what he's doing. GB1 you can call it competetive but it's not it's being lazy and stealing other peoples hard work. Granted Gray isn't without fault in this either. I can't help it. I hate Hauck. I didn't like him before but I hate him now. What a soulless piece of garbage. I would like to wish nothing but bad for him but he has a couple of decent guys that followed him so I won't do that.

Yeah, hate is too strong of a word for my feelings towards Hauck. I always knew that his "bleed maroon" talk was B.S. Bobby is a narcissist who used Montana for his agenda to become a head coach at the FBS level. Was never hard to figure out, but most thought he was a God while he was here. I think Hauck will be a short-lived phenomenon in Vegas. The Peter Principle will catch up to him quickly.

Put him into your memory bank, cause he is gone for good.
 
Hauck is getting desperate. UNLV only has about 9 recruits verballed while the rest of the MWC is pretty much done recruiting and only trying to fill a spot or two and keep the verbals in line.

He really is in a bind right now
 
billings_poke said:
Hauck is getting desperate. UNLV only has about 9 recruits verballed while the rest of the MWC is pretty much done recruiting and only trying to fill a spot or two and keep the verbals in line.

He really is in a bind right now


Maybe we're lucky he didn't try to lose a couple of weeks earlier so there would be more time to recruit.
 
cclarkblues said:
billings_poke said:
Hauck is getting desperate. UNLV only has about 9 recruits verballed while the rest of the MWC is pretty much done recruiting and only trying to fill a spot or two and keep the verbals in line.

He really is in a bind right now


Maybe we're lucky he didn't try to lose a couple of weeks earlier so there would be more time to recruit.
I have no particular opinion on Hauck as a person. Never met the man, and who can tell from media sound/video bites? If you meant this as a funny ... it's pretty damn funny. (If it's just another shot, then I'd call it a bit of a low blow.)
 
Maybe we're lucky he didn't try to lose a couple of weeks earlier so there would be more time to recruit.[/quote]
I have no particular opinion on Hauck as a person. Never met the man, and who can tell from media sound/video bites? If you meant this as a funny ... it's pretty damn funny. (If it's just another shot, then I'd call it a bit of a low blow.)[/quote]


Sorry, should have put a happy face at the end, or maybe not. I'm vacilating between amusement and cynicism. :mrgreen:
 
cclarkblues said:
Maybe we're lucky he didn't try to lose a couple of weeks earlier so there would be more time to recruit.
IdahoGriz01 said:
I have no particular opinion on Hauck as a person. Never met the man, and who can tell from media sound/video bites? If you meant this as a funny ... it's pretty damn funny. (If it's just another shot, then I'd call it a bit of a low blow.)
[Later] Sorry, should have put a happy face at the end, or maybe not. I'm vacillating between amusement and cynicism. :mrgreen:
Good call. With all the "smoke" that's gone on during the Hauck-to-Pfugrad transition, it's hard not to be cynical.
 
billings_poke said:
Hauck is getting desperate. UNLV only has about 9 recruits verballed while the rest of the MWC is pretty much done recruiting and only trying to fill a spot or two and keep the verbals in line.
He really is in a bind right now

Not so fast! I assume those 9 who verballed are cited in earlier articles on BH's UNLV recruiting. However, in this post by Bear Axed at

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=42606,

BH has 10 more out of state recruits interested in UNLV, altho maybe not verballing. He's going to field a competitive team, for a change, in the MWC. Maybe not this year, but certainly by next year. Yes, he does not have (I think) a full cupboard, now, but let's see where he is next December. If his record is the same then as it was under the previous coach, at least he has done no worse, and it would be premature to write him off. We'll see. I still think he was a damned good coach at UM & we were lucky to have him the past 7 years.
 
Recruiting UNLV is a little different than UM. If UM gets a 2 star player it's a good get, and a 3 star is unprecedented. An FBS schools like UNLV is not so much about quantity as it is quality. They aren't going to be able to challenge TCU, Utah, BYU, etc, without a handful of talented 3-star players. 2-star players are just the guys that fill out the rest of the list. Thus far UNLV has three 3-star commits, and looks like from rivals/scout that they might have a chance to get one or two more. It's been a pretty status quo class so far for Hauck. Rivals rates UNLV's last 3 classes as 8, 0, and 6 (in terms of # of 3-stars) and scout rates them at 4, 3, 4.

Hauck's recruiting is likely to improve considering he's only been there about 3 weeks, but I don't think he's going to be able to recruit UNLV out of this hole. It's going to take some great game-day coaching by Hauck, Phenecie, and Paulson.

Wow. According to Rivals, BYU has 15 3-stars and 4 4-stars coming in and TCU has 11 3-stars and 3 4-stars coming in and Utah has 12 3-stars and 2 4-stars, SDSU has 16 3-stars and 1 4-star. Some Pac-10 schools would be happy with those classes.
 
Doolin Daltons said:
Yeah, hate is too strong of a word for my feelings towards Hauck. I always knew that his "bleed maroon" talk was B.S. Bobby is a narcissist who used Montana for his agenda to become a head coach at the FBS level. Was never hard to figure out, but most thought he was a God while he was here. I think Hauck will be a short-lived phenomenon in Vegas. The Peter Principle will catch up to him quickly.

Put him into your memory bank, cause he is gone for good.

OMG!! A coach has higher aspirations than coaching FCS! The horror!! God forbid a guy wanting to be promoted. Shame on him.
 
General Disarray said:
Recruiting UNLV is a little different than UM. If UM gets a 2 star player it's a good get, and a 3 star is unprecedented. An FBS schools like UNLV is not so much about quantity as it is quality. They aren't going to be able to challenge TCU, Utah, BYU, etc, without a handful of talented 3-star players. 2-star players are just the guys that fill out the rest of the list. Thus far UNLV has three 3-star commits, and looks like from rivals/scout that they might have a chance to get one or two more. It's been a pretty status quo class so far for Hauck. Rivals rates UNLV's last 3 classes as 8, 0, and 6 (in terms of # of 3-stars) and scout rates them at 4, 3, 4.

Hauck's recruiting is likely to improve considering he's only been there about 3 weeks, but I don't think he's going to be able to recruit UNLV out of this hole. It's going to take some great game-day coaching by Hauck, Phenecie, and Paulson.

Wow. According to Rivals, BYU has 15 3-stars and 4 4-stars coming in and TCU has 11 3-stars and 3 4-stars coming in and Utah has 12 3-stars and 2 4-stars, SDSU has 16 3-stars and 1 4-star. Some Pac-10 schools would be happy with those classes.

Well, let me argue this: Right now, the BYU's, etc., are in the driver's seat. They have all these starred players, but if BH's record is any proof, BH will develop his 2 & 3 stars into competitors with those schools. He & his staff will get the last drop of talent out of any player, if that player will stick with him. BH is never the satisfied man. It takes a mentally tough player to play for him, and that translates into performance on the field. I would not be surprised if several players leave the program because of him, and that several of his recruits drop out, after they run into what he expects.

UNLV has brought in a team of coaches who know nothing but success, and that success was forged in the years BH & staff had at Montana. He developed no-stars, 1 stars, & maybe a few 2 stars into teams that competed successfully with schools that may have had 2 stars or maybe a few 3 stars on them. How else do you explain UM's march to the NC game 3 out of the 7 years BH was here? I guess I'm saying you can have players with however many stars; it's what you can or can't do with them.
 
David2 said:
He developed no-stars, 1 stars, & maybe a few 2 stars into teams that competed successfully with schools that may have had 2 stars or maybe a few 3 stars on them.
What schools would that be? Possibly you are forgetting who we play.
 
General Disarray said:
Wow. According to Rivals, BYU has 15 3-stars and 4 4-stars coming in and TCU has 11 3-stars and 3 4-stars coming in and Utah has 12 3-stars and 2 4-stars, SDSU has 16 3-stars and 1 4-star. Some Pac-10 schools would be happy with those classes.
A possible explanation for why the MWC has been kicking the PAC-10's butt...
 
David2 said:
General Disarray said:
Recruiting UNLV is a little different than UM. If UM gets a 2 star player it's a good get, and a 3 star is unprecedented. An FBS schools like UNLV is not so much about quantity as it is quality. They aren't going to be able to challenge TCU, Utah, BYU, etc, without a handful of talented 3-star players. 2-star players are just the guys that fill out the rest of the list. Thus far UNLV has three 3-star commits, and looks like from rivals/scout that they might have a chance to get one or two more. It's been a pretty status quo class so far for Hauck. Rivals rates UNLV's last 3 classes as 8, 0, and 6 (in terms of # of 3-stars) and scout rates them at 4, 3, 4.

Hauck's recruiting is likely to improve considering he's only been there about 3 weeks, but I don't think he's going to be able to recruit UNLV out of this hole. It's going to take some great game-day coaching by Hauck, Phenecie, and Paulson.

Wow. According to Rivals, BYU has 15 3-stars and 4 4-stars coming in and TCU has 11 3-stars and 3 4-stars coming in and Utah has 12 3-stars and 2 4-stars, SDSU has 16 3-stars and 1 4-star. Some Pac-10 schools would be happy with those classes.

Well, let me argue this: Right now, the BYU's, etc., are in the driver's seat. They have all these starred players, but if BH's record is any proof, BH will develop his 2 & 3 stars into competitors with those schools. He & his staff will get the last drop of talent out of any player, if that player will stick with him. BH is never the satisfied man. It takes a mentally tough player to play for him, and that translates into performance on the field. I would not be surprised if several players leave the program because of him, and that several of his recruits drop out, after they run into what he expects.

UNLV has brought in a team of coaches who know nothing but success, and that success was forged in the years BH & staff had at Montana. He developed no-stars, 1 stars, & maybe a few 2 stars into teams that competed successfully with schools that may have had 2 stars or maybe a few 3 stars on them. How else do you explain UM's march to the NC game 3 out of the 7 years BH was here? I guess I'm saying you can have players with however many stars; it's what you can or can't do with them.

Recruiting is not an exact science, that is for sure. But the truth is that in the majority of Hauck's games at UM, the Griz had a talent/depth advantage. To succeed at UNLV he's either going to have to create a talent advantage through exceptional recruiting (which will be extremely difficult) or learn how to win as an underdog, which he doesn't have much experience at from his time at UM.
 
Look Here:

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http://unlv.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=915&fid=1093&style=2



Terry T.
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I have talked to Dionza and he is in fact a Rebel. That is a great pick up by UNLV.

I have also talked to the kids( Trevor Poole and Kjelby Oiland) from Ferris HS in Washington and they have not committed to UNLV. They will each take a trip to Montana in coming weeks. I will be interested to see how that plays out and if UNLV will still have spots open for them that long from now. UNLV has some fairly highly rated lineman coming in in the next two weeks. We will follow that one for sure.

I have also talked to big OL Nick Martin from Los Osos. He loved his trip to UNLV but has not committed. He has a trip set up to SJSU next weekend and one to UTEP the following weekend. I will keep you posted.

DB/WR-Tajh Hasson from Cathedral HS also loved his trip to UNLV but said he left without an offer from the Rebels. He said UNLV will be in-home this week and hope's to get an offer than.

Other than that, I have talked to both Davis and Penny. In fact, I talked to Davis and his family before Davis came on his visit to UNLV. They love the Rebels and have told me they have committed but I am inclined to verify those two(from UNLV's side) before I call them UNLV commitments.

In all, it appears that UNLV has done a fine job this weekend. Next weekend will also see some highly-touted kids come to UNLV for visits.

I will also keep you posted on the developments of guys like Keys, Roth and Tre' Johnson as info becomes available.

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Terry T.
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There are about 13-14 kids scheduled to come this week as of now. I know 3-star players Beed, Fajardo, Lewis and, possibly, Lusk are coming. Other than that, I will have a more complete list around thurs.
 
You Hauck lovers are going to be digging out the excuses when his Rebels finish no better than 3-8 (more likely 2-9) next season. Another Dennehy in the making.
 
You may be right about next year, but I am willing to give him three to four. No excuses will be necessary.
 
I find this highly entertaining and equally interesting. The fact that Gray came to Missoula and then left a few days later to join Hauck is something I haven't heard of before. I wonder what Pflugrad thinks of all this and if he is incensed about it, I wonder what the dynamic was on the coaching staff last year? This event raises a whole lot of questions. As for the recruits, I don't know why BH would go after Montana verbals. I think most of us would agree that Montana would not win in games against TCU, BYU, or Utah and maybe some others, which is why it doesn't make sense that he is trying to take Montana caliber players and have them play in the Mountain West. He must be either: A) Really in a bind to get kids to come to UNLV, or B) over-evaluating his recruits...
 
Doolin Daltons said:
You Hauck lovers are going to be digging out the excuses when his Rebels finish no better than 3-8 (more likely 2-9) next season. Another Dennehy in the making.

No comparison between Dennehy & BH.
 
They both had/have Paulson as D.C. I do not think Paulson can survive with the schemes his uses in the MWC. If the corners play off like they did at MT. the top MWC teams will see that and take advantage of it.
 
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