No Longer Rumour?

[grizpack]

Here is a strong "possibility" of what happened....

Gray was in the running all along for the D-Line position with Bobby. In fact, I would bet Bobby contacted him first, as he knew Tom was not going to Las Vegas. Robin contacted Gray later. Gray then used the Montana job to get a little more money out of UNLV. Given the 2 choices, he never had any intention of coming to Montana. Just used it for whatever leverage he could.

That is why he hadn't committed to Montana by the time of the press conference. When he informed Robin, Robin simply went in another direction instead of making a big deal of it.

If anyone is pissed, it should probably be at Gray. He should have been up front with Robin about the UNLV offer.

And in all honesty, Gray did what any of us would have done. Anyone on here that hasn't used the possibility of one job to get a better deal at another job?

But then again, this is just my "guess" about what happened.

 

[Grisette]

It should be fascinating to see what kind of succcess Mr. Hauck's coaching philosphy and skills bring or do not bring him at UNLV as well as how his relationships with his support staff evolve. I will be watching intently. I will be interested to see the proof of coach Hauck's pudding, one way or the other.

But...like the man said, what's really important is our new coach and supporting our team.

 

[Grizzoola]

The same people that have always defended poooooooor Bobby Fraud will continue to support him even when he raids our current players which is a classic Booby Hack move. These are the true bad fans who wish Booby Hauck success at the expense of Griz Nation. These people have no love for Montana and are most likely current Californians or transplants. These people will funnel information about staff and recruiting to Bobby in Vegas so he will have "right of first refusal" on all Montana prospects. Deal with these people how you will, but letting them know they are not welcome in Montana or as UM fans is important to protecting the integrity of the program.

Look. In other posts on other earlier threads, I said that BH would continue to explore his old recruit hunting grounds. BH has an eye for talent & he'll get it wherever he can. You can't blame him for keeping contact with the people who know him, and he's now forging contacts with new people. The security of his job depends on it. BH is not a one-year talent guy. He builds depth, and it takes quality depth to keep the program successful, as we all know from BH's tenure at UM. Many will commit to UNLV, but few will be chosen.

 

[GRZFTBL]

The same people that have always defended poooooooor Bobby Fraud will continue to support him even when he raids our current players which is a classic Booby Hack move. These are the true bad fans who wish Booby Hauck success at the expense of Griz Nation. These people have no love for Montana and are most likely current Californians or transplants. These people will funnel information about staff and recruiting to Bobby in Vegas so he will have "right of first refusal" on all Montana prospects. Deal with these people how you will, but letting them know they are not welcome in Montana or as UM fans is important to protecting the integrity of the program.

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Read your "Fraud", "Booby", "Hack", etc. You don't even know what integrity is, so don't preach it. :loser:

 

[Grizzoola]

Why isn't anyone taking Gray to task? Did he not agree to be on the staff at UM? Didn't Pflu offer the unemplyed coach a job well before BH did? Whatever happenned to honoring your commitment Coach Gray? I blame him a hell of a lot more than BH on this one. Then again, money talks and bullshit walks.

Hell, yes! Who wouldn't want to double his/her salary for doing the same thing?

 

[Rooster]

Is this any different than BH taking Paulson, etc. with him to UNLV?

 

[Grisette]

Is this any different than BH taking Paulson, etc. with him to UNLV?

Well Phenecie and Paulson and those other guys had worked with him for a number of years and would naturally have loyalties to him. Whereas Hauck taking whatshisname (Gray?) from the new staff seems ever so faintly predatory. But it is business, I guess.

 

[UMAlum]

No reason to bash either one of these guys (Hauck, Gray) for the move. Didn't Gray help us out this past season AT NO COST TO THE GRIZ? Thats how he met Bobby. Give the guy a break. He probably needed the money boost to make ends meet. He wasn't coaching this past season, as I understand it.

 

[kemajic]

Is this any different than BH taking Paulson, etc. with him to UNLV?

That one helped us.

 

[OldtiredGRiz]

Pflugrad seems to have solid connections throughout the coaching world, which convinces me that he will bring in someone who will work well with the D line. Other than his bio, I know nothing about Gray, but as others have said, business is business and it's not uncommon to take the better money. The timing sort of sucked, as in creating uncertainty during the recruiting period, but I suppose it could have been worse. Although I really like Las Vegas for an occasional weekend, I wouldn't want to live there, but to each his own.

 

[Mslacat]

Should grey at least reimbuse Um for the money they have already invested in him. Plane trips etc.

 

[Grizbacker1]

Pflugrad seems to have solid connections throughout the coaching world, which convinces me that he will bring in someone who will work well with the D line. Other than his bio, I know nothing about Gray, but as others have said, business is business and it's not uncommon to take the better money. The timing sort of sucked, as in creating uncertainty during the recruiting period, but I suppose it could have been worse. Although I really like Las Vegas for an occasional weekend, I wouldn't want to live there, but to each his own.

My understanding is he had signed a contract at UM. If he did,then the right thing would have been to honor it. The second best thing would be to reimburse UM for ALL expenses associated with his brief stint at UM.

 

[yogi]

AND get his face off our website; your friend, Yogi

 

[OldtiredGRiz]

Pflugrad seems to have solid connections throughout the coaching world, which convinces me that he will bring in someone who will work well with the D line. Other than his bio, I know nothing about Gray, but as others have said, business is business and it's not uncommon to take the better money. The timing sort of sucked, as in creating uncertainty during the recruiting period, but I suppose it could have been worse. Although I really like Las Vegas for an occasional weekend, I wouldn't want to live there, but to each his own.

My understanding is he had signed a contract at UM. If he did,then the right thing would have been to honor it. The second best thing would be to reimburse UM for ALL expenses associated with his brief stint at UM.

It's sad; in the sports world, contracts seem to have no relevance. I didn't know that Gray had signed a contract. The larger message is that contracts, despite being negotiated and agreed upon, are meaningless. When I was growing up in Montana, old school business was still prevalent -- a man's (or woman's for that matter) handshake and word were golden. Today, you put it in ink and sign it and it's not worth the paper it was printed on. Absolutely, if UM covered expenses, it should be reimbursed.

 

[djollieballs]

Sounds like Booby landed himself a winner. :roll:

Grey is going to find himself tossed under the bus as soon as fans notice that Paulson's D generates zero pass rush (it's not designed too). That is of course unless Bobby lands a Kroy at UNLV, which will never happen. Non-flake all-American athletes just don't choose schools like UNLV. Vegas chews people up and spits them out. That's it.

Bobby will be in thug heaven though. Over/under on how long it takes for one of the UNLV players to put Bob in the hospital: 2 seasons. I'll take the under. :lol:

 

[IdaGriz01]

Sounds like Booby landed himself a winner. :roll:

Gray is going to find himself tossed under the bus as soon as fans notice that Paulson's D generates zero pass rush (it's not designed too). That is of course unless Bobby lands a Kroy at UNLV, which will never happen. Non-flake all-American athletes just don't choose schools like UNLV. Vegas chews people up and spits them out. That's it.

Bobby will be in thug heaven though. Over/under on how long it takes for one of the UNLV players to put Bob in the hospital: 2 seasons. I'll take the under. :lol:

How about an over/under on how long before his house gets robbed? I'll take the under on two months, no matter how many people claim the LV crime problem is overstated. (Fellow who worked for me moved there. His under was two weeks -- but he didn't move into a gated community.)

Also, how about an over/under on how long before a recruit ends up on the LV police blotter. I'll take the under on two months for that too.

 

[Mavman]

What is the over/under on how long before people grow up leave coach hauck alone and realize he was good for the Griz. :ugeek:

 

[Richard Cranium]

I dont care who Hauck takes from our coaching staff as long as he takes Rob Phenice with him. That move alone is a PLUS gain for the GRIZ!

 

[PlayerRep]

I dont care who Hauck takes from our coaching staff as long as he takes Rob Phenice with him. That move alone is a PLUS gain for the GRIZ!

Yes, the UM offense was only the SECOND highest scoring offense in the nation this year (behind Liberty). Let's get the offensive coordinator out of here. He obviously doesn't have a clue as to how to score points.

 

[kemajic]

Pflugrad seems to have solid connections throughout the coaching world, which convinces me that he will bring in someone who will work well with the D line. Other than his bio, I know nothing about Gray, but as others have said, business is business and it's not uncommon to take the better money. The timing sort of sucked, as in creating uncertainty during the recruiting period, but I suppose it could have been worse. Although I really like Las Vegas for an occasional weekend, I wouldn't want to live there, but to each his own.

My understanding is he had signed a contract at UM. If he did,then the right thing would have been to honor it. The second best thing would be to reimburse UM for ALL expenses associated with his brief stint at UM.

I would be willing to bet that Pflu willingly released him from that contract, which was the professional thing to do for an old ally that was doubling his salary. And I would guess Pflu was involved in the discussions. There is no evidence that I have seen that there was acrimony between BH and Pflu.