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[EverettGriz]

Good grief, 75.

 

[UMGriz75]

I too would like to speculate that Martin would do a great job back in Pac-12

Good grief, 75.

I think he's a terrific athlete. He is the heart of this team and is one of the most enjoyable players to watch in years. How can anyone not root for him? What's the problem here?

 

[sacstateman]

One thing I don't think anyone has pointed out is Bruenig is playing the 5 or post at Montana and he would probably have to play the 4 or power forward position in the Pac12...whether his skills would translate is up for debate as Pac12 players are bigger, stronger and usually quicker in the "big" positions (not so much at the guard position)

 

[EverettGriz]

One thing I don't think anyone has pointed out is Bruenig is playing the 5 or post at Montana and he would probably have to play the 4 or power forward position in the Pac12...whether his skills would translate is up for debate as Pac12 players are bigger, stronger and usually quicker in the "big" positions (not so much at the guard position)

As many have clearly pointed out, with the exception of udub this year, MB has lit up "better" competition in his time at Montana. Romar has said repeatedly that he would love to still have Martin on his team.

The guy can play with anyone, and will almost certainly make a lot of money playing in Europe.

 

[UMGriz75]

Romar has said repeatedly that he would love to still have Martin on his team.

What was stopping him?

 

[EverettGriz]

Just a hunch: Stop signs. Red lights. I-5 traffic. A specific look from Mrs Romar.


It wasn't romar's decision. It's not as if he forced MB out. We're clear on this, right?

 

[UMGriz75]

Just a hunch: Stop signs. Red lights. I-5 traffic. A specific look from Mrs Romar.
It wasn't romar's decision. It's not as if he forced MB out. We're clear on this, right?

Romar had no choice in letting a 1.5 point per game sophomore, who was down to 9 games in the season, go, but it was all because of I-5? Romar didn't need the scholarship?

OK. That's an interesting analysis.

Not sure what you are getting at.

UW "lost" a very low performing Pac-12 player, and we got a very high performing Big Sky Conference player, and I'm glad we did.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

There are a lot of reasons a player may be successful with one team and not with another. For Martin, coming into a new country let alone a new campus would make it a challenge to fit in. Maybe he just didn't gel with the players at UW at the time. Maybe Romar was too focused on other players and didn't involve him in the offense and overlooked him. Maybe Martin was just young and needed to get to his junior and senior year to finish developing. There are many reasons he may not have been as productive as he could have been his first two years none of which may be his ability to play the game at a Pac12 level and in MB case I don't think it's his ability. Just like every other player that can play D1 basketball it takes the right environment to allow them to reach their potential. Some have more potential than others.

 

[UMGriz75]

"I coulda' been somebody. I coulda' been a contenda."

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwlqKiCpQ9Y[/youtube]

I think every athlete that gets out there deserves the utmost admiration for doing it. Some, perhaps devote too much at the sacrifice of a reality and their own futures. Others, like Mathias Ward, can do both. Jud tried to impart that lesson to Michael Ray, and couldn't do it.

 

[EverettGriz]

75, you've just entered the likes of 2506, dogshit33, golden eagle and a few select others as one of the shittiest posters on this board, and I'm done with you.

 

[UMGriz75]

I think Martin would agree that coming to the University of Montana was one of the best things that ever happened to him. It certainly is one of the best things that ever happened to us.

Yes, given the experience he got at Montana, could he play Pac-12 "now?" Probably.

I think Martin is a terrific athlete. He is the heart of this team and is one of the most enjoyable players to watch in years. How can anyone not root for him?

I think every athlete that gets out there deserves the utmost admiration for doing it. Some, perhaps devote too much at the sacrifice of a reality and their own futures. Others, like Mathias Ward, can do both. Jud tried to impart that lesson to Michael Ray, and couldn't do it.

75, you've just entered the likes of 2506, dogshit33, golden eagle and a few select others as one of the shittiest posters on this board, and I'm done with you.

Thank you for putting your view into "perspective." It is an interesting one. Apparently we disagree on something, but only one of us seems to know what that is and feels quite venomous about that disagreement. If you disagree with my comments about Martin Breunig, perhaps you could explain why.

 

[SoldierGriz]

75, you've just entered the likes of 2506, dogshit33, golden eagle and a few select others as one of the shittiest posters on this board, and I'm done with you.

Just entered? He's been there for a very, very long time.

 

[UMGriz75]

75, you've just entered the likes of 2506, dogshit33, golden eagle and a few select others as one of the shittiest posters on this board, and I'm done with you.

Just entered? He's been there for a very, very long time.

My gosh, you must be a bitter little man, stewing for a "very,very long time." Think poorly of Martin Breunig, do you? Then you're the dipshit. Why you guys need to bring your internecine idiot personal battles over to the basketball threads like a bunch of petulant kids on the playground does not puzzle me, it tells exactly who and what you are.

 

[SoldierGriz]

75, you've just entered the likes of 2506, dogshit33, golden eagle and a few select others as one of the shittiest posters on this board, and I'm done with you.

Just entered? He's been there for a very, very long time.

My gosh, you must be a bitter little man, stewing for a "very,very long time." Think poorly of Martin Breunig, do you? Then you're the dipshit. Why you guys need to bring your internecine idiot personal battles over to the basketball threads like a bunch of petulant kids on the playground does not puzzle me, it tells exactly who and what you are.

No. I think very, very highly of Martin Breunig.
You are probably a nice guy, but your posts on eGriz are simply toxic. Period.

 

[UMGriz75]

75, you've just entered the likes of 2506, dogshit33, golden eagle and a few select others as one of the shittiest posters on this board, and I'm done with you.

Just entered? He's been there for a very, very long time.

My gosh, you must be a bitter little man, stewing for a "very,very long time." Think poorly of Martin Breunig, do you? Then you're the dipshit. Why you guys need to bring your internecine idiot personal battles over to the basketball threads like a bunch of petulant kids on the playground does not puzzle me, it tells exactly who and what you are.

No. I think very, very highly of Martin Breunig.
You are probably a nice guy, but your posts on eGriz are simply toxic. Period.

I think the same of yours often. Breunig is a good example. There are two sides to the "story." I walked through both sides of them. I concluded he could probably play Pac12 today, but that is based on hypotheticals, not the actual record, and ... it's not going to happen. Simply point that out, and you become the "shittiest poster."

It is the same with the football threads. If someone says something downright bone dead stupid, like "Stitt is going to recruit QBs that are fast and accurate," as though they just got off the phone with Stitt, and as though no coach, ever, says exactly the same thing, and anyone points out that the claim says absolutely nothing at all about Stitt, well by some miracle that is "anti-Stitt!" because off-the-rails fans are so invested in their love affairs that they don't comprehend, in their breathless adoration, that Stitt himself would probably be the first to say, "gee, that's kind of dumb, I'm not really the first coach to think that QBs ought to be fast and accurate." As though, up until the Stitt era, coaches generally were looking for QBs that were slow and stupid. THAT is what is mind-numbingly stupid.

And so, the natural defense of the clueless is to substitute themselves for Bob Stitt. It is an interesting displacement. Criticize them, you criticize Bob Stitt! It's just stupid. And after recently wasting ten pages of arguing about him being a "$300,000 coach" and being called a liar in big letters using every negative emoticon in the library, it turns out that he is in fact a $300,000 coach, I am less than impressed when someone like you says "my" posts are toxic. You missed the posters who were screaming "LIAR!" every other post. I generally have the courtesy to use data, and it generally supports my points.

But, with guys like you, as on this Breunig thread, anyone that points out actual facts, and holy smokes its like being the wrong color at a Ku Klux Klan Rally. Your mindless bigotry is what is toxic. You make sports a political endeavor, in which facts are always subsumed to "narratives," and don't screw with the "narrative." I enjoy sports because I've been involved all my life. Very little of that time was spent in the armchair yelling at the TV screen.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Just entered? He's been there for a very, very long time.

My gosh, you must be a bitter little man, stewing for a "very,very long time." Think poorly of Martin Breunig, do you? Then you're the dipshit. Why you guys need to bring your internecine idiot personal battles over to the basketball threads like a bunch of petulant kids on the playground does not puzzle me, it tells exactly who and what you are.

No. I think very, very highly of Martin Breunig.
You are probably a nice guy, but your posts on eGriz are simply toxic. Period.

I think the same of yours often. Breunig is a good example. There are two sides to the "story." I walked through both sides of them. I concluded he could probably play Pac12 today, but that is based on hypotheticals, not the actual record, and ... it's not going to happen. Simply point that out, and you become the "shittiest poster."

It is the same with the football threads. If someone says something downright bone dead stupid, like "Stitt is going to recruit QBs that are fast and accurate," as though they just got off the phone with Stitt, and as though no coach, ever, says exactly the same thing, and anyone points out that the claim says absolutely nothing at all about Stitt, well by some miracle that is "anti-Stitt!" because off-the-rails fans are so invested in their love affairs that they don't comprehend, in their breathless adoration, that Stitt himself would probably be the first to say, "gee, that's kind of dumb, I'm not really the first coach to think that QBs ought to be fast and accurate." As though, up until the Stitt era, coaches generally were looking for QBs that were slow and stupid. THAT is what is mind-numbingly stupid.

And so, the natural defense of the clueless is to substitute themselves for Bob Stitt. It is an interesting displacement. Criticize them, you criticize Bob Stitt! It's just stupid. And after recently wasting ten pages of arguing about him being a "$300,000 coach" and being called a liar in big letters using every negative emoticon in the library, it turns out that he is in fact a $300,000 coach, I am less than impressed when someone like you says "my" posts are toxic. You missed the posters who were screaming "LIAR!" every other post. I generally have the courtesy to use data, and it generally supports my points.

But, with guys like you, as on this Breunig thread, anyone that points out actual facts, and holy smokes its like being the wrong color at a Ku Klux Klan Rally. Your mindless bigotry is what is toxic. You make sports a political endeavor, in which facts are always subsumed to "narratives," and don't screw with the "narrative." I enjoy sports because I've been involved all my life. Very little of that time was spent in the armchair yelling at the TV screen.

Thank you for making my point. Toxic.

 

[EverettGriz]

Wow. That was truly a WTF post.

 

[UMGriz75]

Thank you for making my point. Toxic.

Well, you proved mine. I tried to talk about Martin Breunig, in mostly positive ways. Certaiinly no personal attacks on either of you. You and dipshit have to weigh in with "shitty" and "toxic."

See how that works? See what my point is?

No, of course not.

Suppose I ramble around on threads you post to, just commenting about your posts and making personal comments about you?

But, you know, thanks for bringing your toxic posts to the basketball threads; probably inevitable.

 

[UMGriz75]

Wow. That was truly a WTF post.

Really? After my comment about Martin Breunig likely being able to play in Pac-12 which exposed me as the "shittiest poster?"

You don't know what "WTF" actually means.

Thanks for contaminating the thread though. I'm sure Peyton will get right on it.

 

[UMGriz75]

No. I think very, very highly of Martin Breunig.

Then why clutter up a thread about him with your personal vendettas against other posters? Especially, after a series of very positive posts about Martin Breunig? Just couldn't hold it in? The toxins eating their way out?