next 4 saturdays for Griz....

[argh!]

Obviously this guy has played the game before..............

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what a greenie...

 

[SloStang]

(Griz gave up 511 to PSU).

Well, we held them to only 27 points, and 7 points and 75 yards for that was a garbage time TD when our scrubs were in. Our 2s giving up a TD and 100 or so yards in the final quarter isn't that bad.

Statistically our D is the hardest to score on in the conference.

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

We could bring up the fact that you lost to Yale.

Yes we did. We lost that game for a number of reasons. Two INTs, two fumbles, a blocked punt, four personal fouls and acting like all we had to do was show to win made for a very long day. Still we only gave up 357 yards to the Bulldogs.

 

[Grizzlies1982]

Well, we held them to only 27 points, and 7 points and 75 yards for that was a garbage time TD when our scrubs were in. Our 2s giving up a TD and 100 or so yards in the final quarter isn't that bad.

Statistically our D is the hardest to score on in the conference.

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

We could bring up the fact that you lost to Yale.

Yes we did. We lost that game for a number of reasons. Two INTs, two fumbles, a blocked punt, four personal fouls and acting like all we had to do was show to win made for a very long day. Still we only gave up 357 yards to the Bulldogs.

That sounds very similar to the game the Griz played against Northern Arizona. However one big difference is we gave up nearly 200 yards to their defense. :roll:

 

[Mr. Greenjeans]

Well, we held them to only 27 points, and 7 points and 75 yards for that was a garbage time TD when our scrubs were in. Our 2s giving up a TD and 100 or so yards in the final quarter isn't that bad.

Statistically our D is the hardest to score on in the conference.

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

We could bring up the fact that you lost to Yale.

Yes we did. We lost that game for a number of reasons. Two INTs, two fumbles, a blocked punt, four personal fouls and acting like all we had to do was show to win made for a very long day. Still we only gave up 357 yards to the Bulldogs.

Holy cow, the Griz aren't the only team to come out flat in a game and underperform and turn the ball over and lose...who would have guessed. Good reply senor Stang. :clap:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

(Griz gave up 511 to PSU).

Well, we held them to only 27 points, and 7 points and 75 yards for that was a garbage time TD when our scrubs were in. Our 2s giving up a TD and 100 or so yards in the final quarter isn't that bad.

Statistically our D is the hardest to score on in the conference.

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

CDA...

He is right. We have a bit of a system in place, Stang. "Statistically speaking" now must be adjusted for myriad variables, chiefly SOS. ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS, all the big dogs are making the shift.

 

[Mr. Greenjeans]

Well, we held them to only 27 points, and 7 points and 75 yards for that was a garbage time TD when our scrubs were in. Our 2s giving up a TD and 100 or so yards in the final quarter isn't that bad.

Statistically our D is the hardest to score on in the conference.

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

CDA...

He is right. We have a bit of a system in place, Stang. "Statistically speaking" now must be adjusted for myriad variables, chiefly SOS. ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS, all the big dogs are making the shift.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Ursa Major]

Well, we held them to only 27 points, and 7 points and 75 yards for that was a garbage time TD when our scrubs were in. Our 2s giving up a TD and 100 or so yards in the final quarter isn't that bad.

Statistically our D is the hardest to score on in the conference.

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

CDA...

He is right. We have a bit of a system in place, Stang. "Statistically speaking" now must be adjusted for myriad variables, chiefly SOS. ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS, all the big dogs are making the shift.

Plus, you guys are forgetting, the PSU vs. CPU game was played on a Thursday. Officially, you only use the square root of all statistical numbers for Thursday games, unless a quarterback's initials are DM. In which case, you of course multiply that team's statistics by a factor of 2.

For example, if your team had a quarterback named Dinty Moore and you beat a team on a Thursday, lets say a traditionally weak team such as Monmouth, by a score of 42 to 24, using true statistical relevance, you would actually have won the game 84 to 4.9. Duh!!

 

[Catsrback76]

These next 3 weeks will determine your season. The griz have looked good so far except for the NAW game. But hey, the Cats had one of those too. So, Cal Poly will be tough. Should the griz win, and I would give them the nod for that, EWU will swing on kicking game errors or lack thereof, and I think you have to give the nod to EWU. IMO.
Sac State is a toss up. They can go lights out or are lights out! IF they play confidently and don't get caught up in the griz mystique this game is a toss up and the one that determines the season in terms of possible conference contention. Win it, and you're close... MSU awaits and despite hopes and a prayer, they will be very tough to beat, even with a wounded McGhee!

 

[Raider]

Been an interesting year for Griz.....I think the next 4 games will decide the season and here is why:

1. Griz have dominated 5 games and got dominated in another...none of them real close to see if the Griz have what it takes to to find ways to win against playoff type teams...which can in turn win some playoff games. Can we win a close game?...I think a few (if not all) of the next 4 will be close....we are getting into the "grind" of a season now with injuries/travel/etc.

2. Our O-line looks the part, but isn't as consistently dominant as I honestly thought they would be. We struggle more on short yardage than I thought we would. We will play against a defense just as good/quick as NAU's soon....how will they respond? When they are rolling running the ball, we are a top 5 team in nation..period.
3. JJ is solid as we all thought, but I believe everyone will try to stop our run and make him beat us...can he consitently stay healthy/get pass blocking & pick up blitz's/have recievers produce/call the right plays/etc. to do it? We have a stud in Henderson....been disappointed with consitenstency in other WR, but our TE's have produced way more than expected coming in to season. I love our physical style but I hope Kefense/Gragg keep being creative & aggressive with a screen/reverse/pistol option stuff to keep a defense honest at the right time...at least a screen was seen last saturday and it worked.

4. My biggest concern on defense is scheme/tackling. Can we tackle consistently against a good team? Cal Poly and EWU will test that (as we saw with NAU/PSU). When we don't get "out schemed/coached" and Ty mixes it up, we are solid with the talent we have. The one thing Ty/defensive staff/players has really improved is getting turnovers this year......same for the offense the other way (JJ obviously helps).

5. Are we going to have another let down road game against either Sac St or South Dakota? We could lose either one if we play like we did at NAU...SD is getting better.

6. I think our coverage teams are better than last year on special teams....can we cause a turnover on these?.......one young kicker has to step up soon and be consistent....doesn't mean he will make every field goal as some expect...just more consistent 40 and in........in Worst's defense both those were outside of that last week...actually glad he missed a few to see how a true freshman kicker will respond. This could decide one of the next 4 games. Would love to see a punt/kickoff return give the team a boost in one of these games

7. I'm glad Mick and the staff have hung in there through the last few years (we are disciplined on/off field if you want to play which I love as an alum), but I want to see them go toe-to-toe with some team of close to equal talent like EWU and beat them....let's not get out coached/schemed by them...find ways to win.

Simply put, can we run the ball on O consistently and tackle on defense consistently on D the next 4 games....finding ways to win in tough games down the stretch....

If we go 4-0, we win playoff games; 3-1 we are respectable, but not sure what we do in playoffs; 2-2 we are in trouble to even make playoffs and probably wouldn't do anything in them any way; 1-3 or worse and we need to go in a new direction with staff (unless their are major injuries everywhere to JJ/Trip/etc.)

Your thoughts?

This.

Thus far, our offensive line is as overrated of a unit as I have seen in a long, long, time. A couple of kids are 300+ pounds of really bad footwork. One in particular is good for 2-3 bad “look out blocks” a game.

If the Griz are going to run the table, then this unit needs to start playing to the pre-season hype they were given. Period.

 

[nzone]

The only game that matters is this Saturday. I agree the o-line is under achieving from the pre season hype. One adjustment that could be made is to put Poole back at tackle. Anyway lets take care of cal poly and then move on from there.

 

[Rockmeister]

Well, we held them to only 27 points, and 7 points and 75 yards for that was a garbage time TD when our scrubs were in. Our 2s giving up a TD and 100 or so yards in the final quarter isn't that bad.

Statistically our D is the hardest to score on in the conference.

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

We could bring up the fact that you lost to Yale.

Yes we did. We lost that game for a number of reasons. Two INTs, two fumbles, a blocked punt, four personal fouls and acting like all we had to do was show to win made for a very long day. Still we only gave up 357 yards to the Bulldogs.

like...griz...at...nau? :thumb:

 

[Grizzlies1982]

These next 3 weeks will determine your season. The griz have looked good so far except for the NAW game. But hey, the Cats had one of those too. So, Cal Poly will be tough. Should the griz win, and I would give them the nod for that, EWU will swing on kicking game errors or lack thereof, and I think you have to give the nod to EWU. IMO.
Sac State is a toss up. They can go lights out or are lights out! IF they play confidently and don't get caught up in the griz mystique this game is a toss up and the one that determines the season in terms of possible conference contention. Win it, and you're close... MSU awaits and despite hopes and a prayer, they will be very tough to beat, even with a wounded McGhee!

Huckleberry, that's a fair assessment. For awhile I've seen these three games as the crux of how the season will end up. Cal Poly typically plays us tight and they appear to have found their offense again. Eastern can be a scoring machine and they view MT as their primary rival. Sacramento is schizophrenic and God only knows who our guys will face in California. If we're unprepared, and/or they are playing lights out, we could lose each one of these match ups. However, I believe these Grizzlies won't let any slip by.

It's far from a given but these Griz may take a 10-1 record into Bozeman. The game should be for the conference and playoff seeding. NAU historically stumbles, yet with their schedule they've an excellent chance to end up with just that one Big Sky loss. Question is, after their loss to Montana how will Eastern WA respond when the cats get to Cheney? Which one of those schools, MSU or EWU, will carry a second conference loss?

 

[EverettGriz]

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

We could bring up the fact that you lost to Yale.

Yes we did. We lost that game for a number of reasons. Two INTs, two fumbles, a blocked punt, four personal fouls and acting like all we had to do was show to win made for a very long day. Still we only gave up 357 yards to the Bulldogs.

That sounds very similar to the game the Griz played against Northern Arizona. However one big difference is we gave up nearly 200 yards to their defense. :roll:

Lol!


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[CDAGRIZ]

We also played them on the road. My point is you need to dig in and look at who each team has played when looking at the Stats. Big difference between Fresno State and a DII team.

CDA...

He is right. We have a bit of a system in place, Stang. "Statistically speaking" now must be adjusted for myriad variables, chiefly SOS. ESPN, Fox Sports, CBS, all the big dogs are making the shift.

Plus, you guys are forgetting, the PSU vs. CPU game was played on a Thursday. Officially, you only use the square root of all statistical numbers for Thursday games, unless a quarterback's initials are DM. In which case, you of course multiply that team's statistics by a factor of 2.

For example, if your team had a quarterback named Dinty Moore and you beat a team on a Thursday, lets say a traditionally weak team such as Monmouth, by a score of 42 to 24, using true statistical relevance, you would actually have won the game 84 to 4.9. Duh!!

This is a very good point that is often overlooked when calculating TSR.