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NDSU to MWC

EverettGriz said:
Broadcasters and advertisers don't care one bit about the number of people in an area.

They care about the number of people whose asses are planted on their couch with their remote locked on one channel. Simply look at the ratings for the semifinal. I guarantee advertisers took notice.
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The semifinal was playoff football. You won’t get that audience moving up. Montana doesn’t have the money. Help us understand where the money is coming from? Seriously, where? Montana cannot even afford the entry expenses for moving up, yet alone the extra schollies and travel expenses associated with them. Montana, nor Montana State aren’t growing their fan bases enough to pay for a move up. Your vision of dollars pouring in with TV/streaming is pie in the sky. I wonder if anyone at either university would speak up if they believed moving up was profitable? Nah, they would just be complacent. Sorry, I know people
want to move up. I really do. It just doesn’t make financial sense. BTW, I wouldn’t take a higher paying job if I had to pay money to get it and then was at threat of financial ruin because my expense load was astronomical - just to say I got a promotion. Nonsensical.
 
Norsky19 said:
Ok, but if we both moved up would viewership be consistent during regular season games outside of Montana folks? I may be wrong, but most folks are tuning into their respective teams. If we were on TV at the same time as bigger programs are people watching? Maybe I'm too pessimistic....
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You aren’t too pessimistic. You are realistic. The math doesn’t math even though some are just dead set on a pie in the sky dream. Idaho is an example that is closer to Montana teams than Boise State. Heck Boise State might experience some trouble with this new era of college football. It’s an absolute mess and lots more will change in the next five years. Crazy to run head long into a rapidly evolving situation, than to be a little patient to find a feasible path forward. One may come some time in the future and I hope it does. Now is not the time.
 
Copper Griz said:
The semifinal was playoff football. You won’t get that audience moving up. Montana doesn’t have the money. Help us understand where the money is coming from? Seriously, where? Montana cannot even afford the entry expenses for moving up, yet alone the extra schollies and travel expenses associated with them. Montana, nor Montana State aren’t growing their fan bases enough to pay for a move up. Your vision of dollars pouring in with TV/streaming is pie in the sky. I wonder if anyone at either university would speak up if they believed moving up was profitable? Nah, they would just be complacent. Sorry, I know people
want to move up. I really do. It just doesn’t make financial sense. BTW, I wouldn’t take a higher paying job if I had to pay money to get it and then was at threat of financial ruin because my expense load was astronomical - just to say I got a promotion. Nonsensical.
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Except Kent is fully on record saying Montana NEEDS to go FBS (I never say "up" because UM beats the vast majority of G6 teams right now). The money is absolutely there.

What will devastate the athletic department financially is when UM is third tier. We'll lose attendance, and no one is paying $86 a seat to watch central Washington year after year. We'll lose what tiny tv revenue we get at his level. We'll lose advertisers and sponsors.

At that point, we'll be looking to cut programs, and as I stated earlier, I'd then hope it would be football so we could become a regional power in BB and soccer.
 
EverettGriz said:
Except Kent is fully on record saying Montana NEEDS to go FBS (I never say "up" because UM beats the vast majority of G6 teams right now). The money is absolutely there.

What will devastate the athletic department financially is when UM is third tier. We'll lose attendance, and no one is paying $86 a seat to watch central Washington year after year. We'll lose what tiny tv revenue we get at his level. We'll lose advertisers and sponsors.

At that point, we'll be looking to cut programs, and as I stated earlier, I'd then hope it would be football so we could become a regional power in BB and soccer.
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Somebody might want to show the budget that shows where all the money is going to come from. It doesn’t exist as far as I know and there isn’t a snowballs chance in Hades that the BOR supports moving up.
 
EverettGriz said:
Except Kent is fully on record saying Montana NEEDS to go FBS (I never say "up" because UM beats the vast majority of G6 teams right now). The money is absolutely there.

What will devastate the athletic department financially is when UM is third tier. We'll lose attendance, and no one is paying $86 a seat to watch central Washington year after year. We'll lose what tiny tv revenue we get at his level. We'll lose advertisers and sponsors.

At that point, we'll be looking to cut programs, and as I stated earlier, I'd then hope it would be football so we could become a regional power in BB and soccer.
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More than anything else, Kent just needs to say literally anything.

I would miss football.
 
Copper Griz said:
Somebody might want to show the budget that shows where all the money is going to come from. It doesn’t exist as far as I know and there isn’t a snowballs chance in Hades that the BOR supports moving up.
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Or one might just look at the 50 G6 programs with lower attendance and much lower ticket prices than UM who are thriving financially at that level and assume there must be plenty of money coming from somewhere. Those programs -- to my knowledge-- don't have a printing press cranking out Franklins, so they're balancing their budgets somehow.

And would you agree revenue will fall precipitously if UM is suddenly a third-tier program?
 
EverettGriz said:
Or one might just look at the 50 G6 programs with lower attendance and much lower ticket prices than UM who are thriving financially at that level and assume there must be plenty of money coming from somewhere. Those programs -- to my knowledge-- don't have a printing press cranking out Franklins, so they're balancing their budgets somehow.

And would you agree revenue will fall precipitously if UM is suddenly a third-tier program?
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Attendance and ticket prices are only two metrics out of many that must be considered. What are the enrollments of those 50 other programs you reference? What do they charge their students in athletic fees? How much money do they receive from their state budget?

I'm not against moving up, as a matter of fact I think it would be great. But I'm with a number of other people who just don't know where the money would come from. Yes there would be TV money, but that alone is not going to cover all the added expense that comes with the move up. I honestly think that if it had been financially feasible at any point in the last 10 to 15 years, and assuming an appropriate invitation from a conference, Montana would have already moved up.
 
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