NAU game

[nzone]

I will always root for Montana but there are times when I shake my head and say awe shit. This team has a tendency to lack decipline. Red zone defense was a nightmare on Saturday. Zero execution by the offense in the first half, bad punting, missed xpt, fumbled kickoffs, penalties at crucial times, which seems to be focus issues. Stitt is always making light of the mental side of the game. Maybe he has made this team a little to mental.

 

[Diesel]

Saturday can not come soon enough. Go Griz!!!
Are we going to get some snow?

 

[PlayerRep]

No such thing as a good loss. There have been plenty of posts about inability to adjust at half in a positive way. Not the case last week. Still a loss. Griz did not roll over and quit. They lost, however the season is not over. How they continue with better play in the second half might have positive foundation to build on going forward.

I get a kick out of all of the hope and prayer that the second half of the Weber game somehow is an indicator of how we will perform the rest of the season. Makes it easy to look good when your opponent is up by 28 at halftime and taking the air out of the ball on offense to avoid turnovers, just like most teams do when they have a 28-point lead at halftime. Was that 34 points that Weber laid on us in the first half just a mirage? I could have sworn that it really happened!

First, Weber didn't take the air out of the ball in the 2d half. The play by play shows that.

Second, had UM not had the better second half by the O and great second half by the D, almost no one would be giving the Griz any chance of winning 2 or 3 games the rest of the season. Despite the horrible first half, and all the negatives and weak play, I also saw many positives that give reasonable hope that the team can rally for some wins. If Jensen is out, the task will get tougher, but the fight and heart of this team is very strong. They didn't give up against Weber, they have had good effort all season, and I think they will go into the NAU game expecting to win.

Third, if I have the choice between a talented team without enough heart versus a less talented team with huge heart, and one that will never give up, I will take the team with heart every time.

Fourth, why don't you try rooting for the Griz, and supporting them, this week, instead of just spewing the same negative crap over and over again. Or, do you so desperately want to be proven right, that you are rooting against the Griz?

Fifth, JD Quinn told me he has no clue who you are.

Play by play shows that in the game WSU was about 50/50 run/pass
1st half was 40/60 run/pass
2nd half was 66/33 run/pass

so ....... they kinda did take the air out of the ball :thumb:

Nope. Here are the 3d quarter stats, again. You need to pay attention and do some homework.

In the 3d quarter, Weber called pass plays 56.25% (including sacks, which by definition are pass plays) and ran 43.75%. By the way, one more pass and one less run in the 3d quarter, would have been 62.5%. The difference between the first half and 3d quarter is one half of a pass.
Drives:

2 pass, 1 run
2 pass, 1 run
2 pass, 3 run
3 pass, 2 run

Total for 3d quarter: 9 pass, 7 run'

In the continuing drive at start not 4th, 2 pass, 2 run

Then, starting with the drive at 6:25 to go in the 4th, Weber starts to run the ball more.

 

[PlayerRep]

No such thing as a good loss. There have been plenty of posts about inability to adjust at half in a positive way. Not the case last week. Still a loss. Griz did not roll over and quit. They lost, however the season is not over. How they continue with better play in the second half might have positive foundation to build on going forward.

I get a kick out of all of the hope and prayer that the second half of the Weber game somehow is an indicator of how we will perform the rest of the season. Makes it easy to look good when your opponent is up by 28 at halftime and taking the air out of the ball on offense to avoid turnovers, just like most teams do when they have a 28-point lead at halftime. Was that 34 points that Weber laid on us in the first half just a mirage? I could have sworn that it really happened!

First, Weber didn't take the air out of the ball in the 2d half. The play by play shows that.

Second, had UM not had the better second half by the O and great second half by the D, almost no one would be giving the Griz any chance of winning 2 or 3 games the rest of the season. Despite the horrible first half, and all the negatives and weak play, I also saw many positives that give reasonable hope that the team can rally for some wins. If Jensen is out, the task will get tougher, but the fight and heart of this team is very strong. They didn't give up against Weber, they have had good effort all season, and I think they will go into the NAU game expecting to win.

Third, if I have the choice between a talented team without enough heart versus a less talented team with huge heart, and one that will never give up, I will take the team with heart every time.

Fourth, why don't you try rooting for the Griz, and supporting them, this week, instead of just spewing the same negative crap over and over again. Or, do you so desperately want to be proven right, that you are rooting against the Griz?

Fifth, JD Quinn told me he has no clue who you are.

How's your buddy JD's hand? Heard he had a hard time putting one foot in front of the other on Homecoming weekend?

I saw him on Saturday briefly, and had dinner and drinks with him on Monday evening. There was nothing wrong with his hand. He was with his girlfriend and her parents on Saturday. She departed back to Dallas on Sunday. UM grad. UVa law school. Making top dollar at a big law firm in Dallas. JD seems to be doing very well in his job too.

 

[whitefishbear]

I get a kick out of all of the hope and prayer that the second half of the Weber game somehow is an indicator of how we will perform the rest of the season. Makes it easy to look good when your opponent is up by 28 at halftime and taking the air out of the ball on offense to avoid turnovers, just like most teams do when they have a 28-point lead at halftime. Was that 34 points that Weber laid on us in the first half just a mirage? I could have sworn that it really happened!

First, Weber didn't take the air out of the ball in the 2d half. The play by play shows that.

Second, had UM not had the better second half by the O and great second half by the D, almost no one would be giving the Griz any chance of winning 2 or 3 games the rest of the season. Despite the horrible first half, and all the negatives and weak play, I also saw many positives that give reasonable hope that the team can rally for some wins. If Jensen is out, the task will get tougher, but the fight and heart of this team is very strong. They didn't give up against Weber, they have had good effort all season, and I think they will go into the NAU game expecting to win.

Third, if I have the choice between a talented team without enough heart versus a less talented team with huge heart, and one that will never give up, I will take the team with heart every time.

Fourth, why don't you try rooting for the Griz, and supporting them, this week, instead of just spewing the same negative crap over and over again. Or, do you so desperately want to be proven right, that you are rooting against the Griz?

Fifth, JD Quinn told me he has no clue who you are.

That's funny about Weber not taking the air out of the ball in the second half, since Jay Hill stated as much in his post game interview, when asked about his team scoring only 7 second half points.

I do root for the Griz every week. Why would I know JD Quinn?

Actually, after the game, Hill didn't say that he took the air out of the ball in the second half. He said that after in the game, they got more conservative on defense as UM was running out of time. Note that the qb doesn't know why their offense was so less good in the 2d half; doesn't say they changed play calling.

"For whatever reason, the second half was an entirely different story.

“I don’t know what happened,” said Cantwell. “I am still working on that myself.”

“I don’t know if we got into conservative mode in the second half,” added Hill. “People can say I got a little conservative on defense but I knew (Montana) was running out of time. I wanted to make sure we didn’t do anything stupid to lose the game.”

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865691902/Weber-State-Opportunistic-Wildcats-defense-preys-on-Montana-in-41-27-victory.html

I didn't quote him in saying that, but he gave a sideline interview following the game and was asked about only scoring 7 points in the second half versus 34 in the first. Not talking about newspaper quotes. He made some statement about not making mistakes on offense and running the clock to protect a big lead.

 

[kemajic]

I agree. Anybody who thinks that NAU is no good is gonna have a big surprise in store for them come Saturday.

How would you view a Griz win against NAU,besides miraculous?
Is the season over yet?
The Griz are coming off their second loss to ranked FCS teams, if they loose they are mediocre if they win it is a two game season and things are looking up.
The NAU game is a must. Can the seniors rally the team? We will see...

If not, that "problem will be solved by graduation."

Correct. But the problem is that five of our six best defensive players will graduate. You can call me a neggie all you want, but I still want any of you glass-half-full guys to explain how our defense will be better next season, which is a scary thought (even on Halloween) since kit is among the worst in the conference now!

Just using one of Stitt's infamous quotes. Everyone talks about how young we are, but we have 17 seniors.

 

[whitefishbear]

I will always root for Montana but there are times when I shake my head and say awe shit. This team has a tendency to lack decipline. Red zone defense was a nightmare on Saturday. Zero execution by the offense in the first half, bad punting, missed xpt, fumbled kickoffs, penalties at crucial times, which seems to be focus issues. Stitt is always making light of the mental side of the game. Maybe he has made this team a little to mental.

I will always be an avid Griz fan and want them to win every game. But I also remember the quality of play we used to have and realize that we play more now like the teams we used to dominate. It is disconcerting to watch every week. I think too many fans have forgotten how dominant we were for many years through five different head coaches.

I just want us to return to that level, and with our superb facilities and recruiting advantages, there is absolutely no reason we should not be able to do so...... WITH THE RIGHT HEAD COACH!

 

[Richard Cranium]

I have 2 tix, I'll sell half price. Buy one get one free.

 

[PlayerRep]

First, Weber didn't take the air out of the ball in the 2d half. The play by play shows that.

Second, had UM not had the better second half by the O and great second half by the D, almost no one would be giving the Griz any chance of winning 2 or 3 games the rest of the season. Despite the horrible first half, and all the negatives and weak play, I also saw many positives that give reasonable hope that the team can rally for some wins. If Jensen is out, the task will get tougher, but the fight and heart of this team is very strong. They didn't give up against Weber, they have had good effort all season, and I think they will go into the NAU game expecting to win.

Third, if I have the choice between a talented team without enough heart versus a less talented team with huge heart, and one that will never give up, I will take the team with heart every time.

Fourth, why don't you try rooting for the Griz, and supporting them, this week, instead of just spewing the same negative crap over and over again. Or, do you so desperately want to be proven right, that you are rooting against the Griz?

Fifth, JD Quinn told me he has no clue who you are.

That's funny about Weber not taking the air out of the ball in the second half, since Jay Hill stated as much in his post game interview, when asked about his team scoring only 7 second half points.

I do root for the Griz every week. Why would I know JD Quinn?

Actually, after the game, Hill didn't say that he took the air out of the ball in the second half. He said that after in the game, they got more conservative on defense as UM was running out of time. Note that the qb doesn't know why their offense was so less good in the 2d half; doesn't say they changed play calling.

"For whatever reason, the second half was an entirely different story.

“I don’t know what happened,” said Cantwell. “I am still working on that myself.”

“I don’t know if we got into conservative mode in the second half,” added Hill. “People can say I got a little conservative on defense but I knew (Montana) was running out of time. I wanted to make sure we didn’t do anything stupid to lose the game.”

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865691902/Weber-State-Opportunistic-Wildcats-defense-preys-on-Montana-in-41-27-victory.html

I didn't quote him in saying that, but he gave a sideline interview following the game and was asked about only scoring 7 points in the second half versus 34 in the first. Not talking about newspaper quotes. He made some statement about not making mistakes on offense and running the clock to protect a big lead.

I don't believe you. The play by play shows that he didn't take the air out of the ball until 6:25 to go in the 4th quarter. No coach in the world goes completely conservative at the start of the 3d quarter. The Griz defense played great in the second half. If you don't believe that, then you clearly don't understand football and, of course, we know that you never played the game.

 

[Hawkeyebowhunter]

Maybe the defense will prove the defensive naysayers wrong over the next three games. One can hope right? Also it will help to dilute the stats from the EWU and UW games with three more games that are hopefully, at least statistically, better than those two.

Defensive stats are not the problem, defense in second half may be some of the best seen so far which is a positive. No players are giving up, they need some help getting them in position to succeed. Which can be done with the current roster and coaches.

I agree. Our defense has had problems but I still believe they can be really good to great. As seen against Weber. If defense stinks for the next three games (something like we score in the mid 30's or more and still lose) I think those asking for Semore to be relieved will have a very defensible position.

What do you see that makes you think this defense can be even "good"?? Not going to entertain the thought of this defense being great, as anyone should be able to see they clearly are not, nor is the leadership in place for them to make a push towards "great"

The koolaid must taste great, but it's bad for your health :dope:

 

[PlayerRep]

Maybe the defense will prove the defensive naysayers wrong over the next three games. One can hope right? Also it will help to dilute the stats from the EWU and UW games with three more games that are hopefully, at least statistically, better than those two.

Defensive stats are not the problem, defense in second half may be some of the best seen so far which is a positive. No players are giving up, they need some help getting them in position to succeed. Which can be done with the current roster and coaches.

I agree. Our defense has had problems but I still believe they can be really good to great. As seen against Weber. If defense stinks for the next three games (something like we score in the mid 30's or more and still lose) I think those asking for Semore to be relieved will have a very defensible position.

What do you see that makes you think this defense can be even "good"?? Not going to entertain the thought of this defense being great, as anyone should be able to see they clearly are not, nor is the leadership in place for them to make a push towards "great"

Do you watch any of the Weber game? What didn't you like about the defense against Weber? What did they do wrong in the 2d half. Gave up no points and almost no yards. Had a good outing the prior game too.

The koolaid must taste great, but it's bad for your health :dope:

 

[bearister]

I will always root for Montana but there are times when I shake my head and say awe shit. This team has a tendency to lack decipline. Red zone defense was a nightmare on Saturday. Zero execution by the offense in the first half, bad punting, missed xpt, fumbled kickoffs, penalties at crucial times, which seems to be focus issues. Stitt is always making light of the mental side of the game. Maybe he has made this team a little to mental.

I will always be an avid Griz fan and want them to win every game. But I also remember the quality of play we used to have and realize that we play more now like the teams we used to dominate. It is disconcerting to watch every week. I think too many fans have forgotten how dominant we were for many years through five different head coaches.

I just want us to return to that level, and with our superb facilities and recruiting advantages, there is absolutely no reason we should not be able to do so...... WITH THE RIGHT HEAD COACH!

All the talk about how good the Griz used to be seems to overlook the fact that the BSC, and all of the FCS, is several orders of magnitude better than it was twenty years ago. It's apples and oranges to compare the 2017 team with teams of yesteryear because the level of competition is much better now. Back in the day, there were teams that were an automatic W for Montana every year. Now there is much more parity in the league. PSU is winless in the league and they played tough against two admittedly lower level FBS teams this year. Would never have happened twenty years ago. Just saying, times are different now.


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[kemajic]

I will always root for Montana but there are times when I shake my head and say awe shit. This team has a tendency to lack decipline. Red zone defense was a nightmare on Saturday. Zero execution by the offense in the first half, bad punting, missed xpt, fumbled kickoffs, penalties at crucial times, which seems to be focus issues. Stitt is always making light of the mental side of the game. Maybe he has made this team a little to mental.

I will always be an avid Griz fan and want them to win every game. But I also remember the quality of play we used to have and realize that we play more now like the teams we used to dominate. It is disconcerting to watch every week. I think too many fans have forgotten how dominant we were for many years through five different head coaches.

I just want us to return to that level, and with our superb facilities and recruiting advantages, there is absolutely no reason we should not be able to do so...... WITH THE RIGHT HEAD COACH!

All the talk about how good the Griz used to be seems to overlook the fact that the BSC, and all of the FCS, is several orders of magnitude better than it was twenty years ago. It's apples and oranges to compare the 2017 team with teams of yesteryear because the level of competition is much better now. Back in the day, there were teams that were an automatic W for Montana every year. Now there is much more parity in the league. PSU is winless in the league and they played tough against two admittedly lower level FBS teams this year. Would never have happened twenty years ago. Just saying, times are different now.

If you actually believe that, I for one, don't, please provide some evidence to your claim. The top of FCS and the top of the BSC left for FBS. The BSC is watered down; yes there is parity, because there are not dominating teams like Nevada, BSU, Idaho and Montana of 25 years ago. I never recall weeks back then when there were not several BSC teams in the top 10, unlike now. Nada.

 

[whitefishbear]

I will always root for Montana but there are times when I shake my head and say awe shit. This team has a tendency to lack decipline. Red zone defense was a nightmare on Saturday. Zero execution by the offense in the first half, bad punting, missed xpt, fumbled kickoffs, penalties at crucial times, which seems to be focus issues. Stitt is always making light of the mental side of the game. Maybe he has made this team a little to mental.

I will always be an avid Griz fan and want them to win every game. But I also remember the quality of play we used to have and realize that we play more now like the teams we used to dominate. It is disconcerting to watch every week. I think too many fans have forgotten how dominant we were for many years through five different head coaches.

I just want us to return to that level, and with our superb facilities and recruiting advantages, there is absolutely no reason we should not be able to do so...... WITH THE RIGHT HEAD COACH!

All the talk about how good the Griz used to be seems to overlook the fact that the BSC, and all of the FCS, is several orders of magnitude better than it was twenty years ago. It's apples and oranges to compare the 2017 team with teams of yesteryear because the level of competition is much better now. Back in the day, there were teams that were an automatic W for Montana every year. Now there is much more parity in the league. PSU is winless in the league and they played tough against two admittedly lower level FBS teams this year. Would never have happened twenty years ago. Just saying, times are different now.


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You need an opioid intervention if you actually believe what you wrote here! Seriously??? Nevada, Boise State, and Idaho replaced by Sac, State, Cal Davis, and directional Colorado????? ROFL!

God, you can't make this stuff up! May I recommend scream therapy?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I will always root for Montana but there are times when I shake my head and say awe shit. This team has a tendency to lack decipline. Red zone defense was a nightmare on Saturday. Zero execution by the offense in the first half, bad punting, missed xpt, fumbled kickoffs, penalties at crucial times, which seems to be focus issues. Stitt is always making light of the mental side of the game. Maybe he has made this team a little to mental.

I will always be an avid Griz fan and want them to win every game. But I also remember the quality of play we used to have and realize that we play more now like the teams we used to dominate. It is disconcerting to watch every week. I think too many fans have forgotten how dominant we were for many years through five different head coaches.

I just want us to return to that level, and with our superb facilities and recruiting advantages, there is absolutely no reason we should not be able to do so...... WITH THE RIGHT HEAD COACH!

All the talk about how good the Griz used to be seems to overlook the fact that the BSC, and all of the FCS, is several orders of magnitude better than it was twenty years ago. It's apples and oranges to compare the 2017 team with teams of yesteryear because the level of competition is much better now. Back in the day, there were teams that were an automatic W for Montana every year. Now there is much more parity in the league. PSU is winless in the league and they played tough against two admittedly lower level FBS teams this year. Would never have happened twenty years ago. Just saying, times are different now.


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You need an opioid intervention if you actually believe what you wrote here! Seriously??? Nevada, Boise State, and Idaho replaced by Sac, State, Cal Davis, and directional Colorado????? ROFL!

God, you can't make this stuff up! May I recommend scream therapy?

Agreed. I bet he claims he played varsity sports when they were just club sports.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I will always be an avid Griz fan and want them to win every game. But I also remember the quality of play we used to have and realize that we play more now like the teams we used to dominate. It is disconcerting to watch every week. I think too many fans have forgotten how dominant we were for many years through five different head coaches.

I just want us to return to that level, and with our superb facilities and recruiting advantages, there is absolutely no reason we should not be able to do so...... WITH THE RIGHT HEAD COACH!

All the talk about how good the Griz used to be seems to overlook the fact that the BSC, and all of the FCS, is several orders of magnitude better than it was twenty years ago. It's apples and oranges to compare the 2017 team with teams of yesteryear because the level of competition is much better now. Back in the day, there were teams that were an automatic W for Montana every year. Now there is much more parity in the league. PSU is winless in the league and they played tough against two admittedly lower level FBS teams this year. Would never have happened twenty years ago. Just saying, times are different now.


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You need an opioid intervention if you actually believe what you wrote here! Seriously??? Nevada, Boise State, and Idaho replaced by Sac, State, Cal Davis, and directional Colorado????? ROFL!

God, you can't make this stuff up! May I recommend scream therapy?

Agreed. I bet he claims he played varsity sports when they were just club sports.

:lol: :lol: