National Search for New Lady Griz Coach

[Griz til I die]

Everyone seems to discount Sobolewski. Multiple conference championships. 2021 BSC Championship coach with an admirable showing in the NCAA tourney. Knows the BSC as well as anyone. Recruits well. If he can recruit talented players to Pocatello, Idaho, what can he do in Missoula?

This is a very strong field on applicants. Petrino looks, to me, to be the weakest one. His strongest attribute may be his familiarity and acquaintance with most of the Search Committee members. Many who he sees on a daily basis in the Adams Center.

There are some seemingly good candidates, but I don't see the whole group as very strong, and Petrino certainly isn't the weakest.

You don’t see that group as strong? What, were you expecting Geno Auriemma to apply? I get that you want Petrino to get the job, I did too, but you can’t tell me that Petrino is a stronger candidate than Mark Campbell. I disagree with you PR, I think he is the worst name on that list.

 

[TrueGriz]

There are some seemingly good candidates, but I don't see the whole group as very strong, and Petrino certainly isn't the weakest.

You don’t see that group as strong? What, were you expecting Geno Auriemma to apply? I get that you want Petrino to get the job, I did too, but you can’t tell me that Petrino is a stronger candidate than Mark Campbell. I disagree with you PR, I think he is the worst name on that list.

I don't think playerrep said that. Just that Petrino isn't the worst like you think.

I believe the people that applied are all qualified. We'll see whom the committee thinks is the strongest soon enough.

 

[TrueGriz]

You don’t see that group as strong? What, were you expecting Geno Auriemma to apply? I get that you want Petrino to get the job, I did too, but you can’t tell me that Petrino is a stronger candidate than Mark Campbell. I disagree with you PR, I think he is the worst name on that list.

I don't think playerrep said that. Just that Petrino isn't the worst like you think.

I believe the people that applied are all qualified. We'll see whom the committee thinks is the strongest soon enough.

Also, Campbell doesn't have any head coaching experience. Some of the others do not either. But he is the one that I feel will move on the soonest and the there would have to be another national search for a coach in the near future,like right after his contract is up in around 3 years.

 

[Griz til I die]

I don't think playerrep said that. Just that Petrino isn't the worst like you think.

I believe the people that applied are all qualified. We'll see whom the committee thinks is the strongest soon enough.

Also, Campbell doesn't have any head coaching experience. Some of the others do not either. But he is the one that I feel will move on the soonest and the there would have to be another national search for a coach in the near future,like right after his contract is up in around 3 years.

Ya that’s not a big deal to me. We’ve highlighted this a multitude of times that one of the biggest deficiencies of this program is the recruiting, and Campbells one of the best in women’s college basketball. At some point, whether it’s this job or another job, he will get his chance to be a head coach. I realize that we may only have him for a few years, but at this point what we need is to get the train back on the tracks. Now if we could keep him around longer, even better, but if not I’m sure he’d end up having an assistant who would want the gig that could continue what he built.

 

[717s7e]

1. I am excited about the strength of this group.
2. I have been on a number of UM athletic search committees and most members do very little.
3. I am very thankful that we have a passionate Lady Griz player on the committee - she cares and is networked to be able to dig into the real strengths and weakness of the candidates.
4. It is very difficult for the AD to do the digging she can do - in the small world of athletics, they believe in Karma - nobody will say anything negative about a candidate. That is where it is possible that a former player can talk to former players for each of the candidates and discern much more than the AD will learn talking to other AD types.
5. Note that this is a "search" committee, not a "selection" committee. The group is too large to be effective and at best will be a sounding board for Haslem.
6. Whenever I get excited about the quality of the applicants, I remind myself that MSU hired an assistant from Oregon and it didn't work out too well for their men's team. This is always somewhat a roll of the dice. But, Haslem's marketability for a higher job will be strongly impacted by his decision.

 

[Griz1]

I always think it is funny when people say "He or She doesn't have any head coaching experience". Who did before they got their first head coaching job? I can assure you Jud didn't, Monty didn't, Stew didn't, Blaine didn't, Larry K didn't, Wayne didn't and neither did Robin, and Bobby's first head coaching job was here. Until they become one no one knows who will be successful. What a candidate brings to the table is what will make them successful or unsuccessful. The job of the committee is to make that determination to the best of their ability.

Let me see Pat Kennedy was a head coach before he came here and so was Stitt. How successful were they in their position here?

 

[tourist]

Haslam's marketability is already chiselled on his own Mt. Rushmore. Three faces to-date: Delaney, Stitt, and Shannon. Is Petrino #4?

 

[TrueGriz]

I always think it is funny when people say "He or She doesn't have any head coaching experience". Who did before they got their first head coaching job? I can assure you Jud didn't, Monty didn't, Stew didn't, Blaine didn't, Larry K didn't, Wayne didn't and neither did Robin, and Bobby's first head coaching job was here. Until they become one no one knows who will be successful. What a candidate brings to the table is what will make them successful or unsuccessful. The job of the committee is to make that determination to the best of their ability.

Let me see Pat Kennedy was a head coach before he came here and so was Stitt. How successful were they in their position here?

You may think it's funny but one of the preferred qualifications for this job is having head coaching experience as stated by the job announcement. Not required though as the candidates without it appear to be qualified.

 

[tourist]

Must be pure coincidence that that Petrino was give the interim 'Head Coach' job, eleven months before a 'planned' national search. Check that box. Something was planned.

Looking at Haslam's track record at UM, and not believing in coincidences, I would say Petrino will get the job, for 'continuity,' as if the past five years should be the template for future success. :twocents:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Must be pure coincidence that that Petrino was give the interim 'Head Coach' job, eleven months before a 'planned' national search.

That is the definition of interim.

 

[tourist]

True.

 

[Art Spooner]

Must be pure coincidence that that Petrino was give the interim 'Head Coach' job, eleven months before a 'planned' national search. Check that box. Something was planned.

Looking at Haslam's track record at UM, and not believing in coincidences, I would say Petrino will get the job, for 'continuity,' as if the past five years should be the template for future success. :twocents:

One can go back much further than 4 years to show that UM “search” committees often look no further than down the hall for their hires. Engstrom, O’Day, Haslam himself and others. Has always amazed me that the “best candidate” is, more often than not, already on campus. Serves as job security for some (active support = job security) and simple buddy hires for others. Petrino has a very good shot, even if he’s not the most qualified. In fact I would almost bet on it.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

now what ? :?

Montana Lady Griz starting guard Hannah Thurmon leaving program
Montana Lady Griz starting guard Hannah Thurmon leaving program
40 min ago

 

[PlayerRep]

"Hannah Thurmon, who started at shooting guard for the Montana women's basketball team this past season, is leaving the program.

Interim coach Mike Petrino confirmed Monday night that the Missouri native is going home to finish college. He did not specify exactly where the senior-to-be is headed or whether she will play basketball.

"We appreciate Hannah's efforts this past season," Petrino told the Missoulian and 406mtsports.com. "We wish her all the best."

Thurmon led the Lady Griz in made 3-pointers this season with 28. She struggled with consistency, hitting 30.3 percent of her attempts from the floor.

Petrino noted that almost everyone else from last season's team will be back for the 2021-22 campaign. On top of that, Helena Capital standout Dani Bartsch and Haley Huard of Colorado will join the team as incoming freshmen. Both guided their prep teams to a state title this winter."

https://mtstandard.com/sports/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/montana-lady-griz-starting-guard-hannah-thurmon-leaving-program/article_40c40b76-af96-588b-97ce-2f3f39278a41.html

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

now what ? :?

Montana Lady Griz starting guard Hannah Thurmon leaving program
Montana Lady Griz starting guard Hannah Thurmon leaving program
40 min ago

Honestly, I doubt people would even have noticed.

 

[HookedonGriz]

now what ? :?

Montana Lady Griz starting guard Hannah Thurmon leaving program
Montana Lady Griz starting guard Hannah Thurmon leaving program
40 min ago

Honestly, I doubt people would even have noticed.

I would have. She hit some big three-pointers and even though she only shot 30% sadly she probably almost lead the team. We need a major upgrade in talent and three point shooting ability.

 

[fanofzoo]

Honestly, I doubt people would even have noticed.

I would have. She hit some big three-pointers and even though she only shot 30% sadly she probably almost lead the team. We need a major upgrade in talent and three point shooting ability.

Well hold on , we have top MT. players coming. :roll:

 

[maroonandsilver]

now what ? :?

Montana Lady Griz starting guard Hannah Thurmon leaving program
Montana Lady Griz starting guard Hannah Thurmon leaving program
40 min ago

Honestly, I doubt people would even have noticed.

She was billed as the Lady Griz 3-point threat. While she had some games where she shot ok, she had as many where she air-balled most every shot. She could not move her feet on defense, and was a liability there. She was not a rebounder. I know Mike recruited her very late in the year when he had few options, but if we are looking at improving the Lady Griz squad, she is (or was) not part of the equation.

 

[Art Spooner]

Also, Campbell doesn't have any head coaching experience. Some of the others do not either. But he is the one that I feel will move on the soonest and the there would have to be another national search for a coach in the near future,like right after his contract is up in around 3 years.

Ya that’s not a big deal to me. We’ve highlighted this a multitude of times that one of the biggest deficiencies of this program is the recruiting, and Campbells one of the best in women’s college basketball. At some point, whether it’s this job or another job, he will get his chance to be a head coach. I realize that we may only have him for a few years, but at this point what we need is to get the train back on the tracks. Now if we could keep him around longer, even better, but if not I’m sure he’d end up having an assistant who would want the gig that could continue what he built.

And with Campbell you get...

“Oregon guards Taylor Chavez, Jaz Shelley enter transfer portal”

 

[tourist]

Well, it's been 12 days since the application deadline for the Lady Griz Head Coach.....the 'committee' seems to be turning this 'process' into a Soviet style bureaucratic 'Catch-22,' IMHO. :roll: