MSU's Brad Daly wins the Buck Buchanan award

[BWahlberg]

I did not know that having the best defensive game during Griz-Cat was a prerequisite for the Buck?

It was the only change to gauge the talents of the two on the same field though.

C'mon whalberg, Coyle didn't even make the top ten. At least tripp made that list. Maroon colored glasses strike again.

Ah yes, the EWU troll is back.

If I had a choice for a player I'd rather have on my defense it would very easily be Coyle over Daly.

 

[knhoj]

Congrats to Daly. 14 sacks, 20 TFl is impressive.

Very impressive and congrats to Daly, but he is still behind another Helena kid, Andy Petek had 27 TFL, 19 Sacks, and 6 forced fumbles in 2000. Too bad he didn't get a good agent, might have made it to the pros-at least Canadian.

And Petek is still behind MSU's (and Choteau native) Mark Fellows, who had 23 sacks and 30 TFL during the Cats' 1984 NC season. I appreciate all of the compliments and congratulations for Daly though. Even though the BSC is known as an offensive-oriented conference, we have seen some dominant defensive players over the years, and MSU and UM have probalby had more great ones that any other school. Thanks again.

 

[Big Northern Griz]

Very deserving. Watched a couple games this year and he was unblockable. If he wants to put the work into pursuing it, he could get some looks as a LB. Not sure if he has the coverage skills to pull off a Dane Fletcher, but the kid can play.

 

[YourMom&Me]

I did not know that having the best defensive game during Griz-Cat was a prerequisite for the Buck?

It was the only change to gauge the talents of the two on the same field though.

C'mon whalberg, Coyle didn't even make the top ten. At least tripp made that list. Maroon colored glasses strike again.

Ah yes, the EWU troll is back.

If I had a choice for a player I'd rather have on my defense it would very easily be Coyle over Daly.

'Lol...That makes sense coming from you. Although you never said you were smart..

 

[bearister]

Good on him.

A number of players in the BSC (including Brock) were good enough to win. Hard to argue with Daly, though.

Was the Griz-Cat game just a bad day? He had a sack early and then disappeared. He must have played the run better during the season than he did that day, because I don't think he had a single tackle against a RB.

 

[EverettGriz]

Good on him.

A number of players in the BSC (including Brock) were good enough to win. Hard to argue with Daly, though.

Was the Griz-Cat game just a bad day? He had a sack early and then disappeared. He must have played the run better during the season than he did that day, because I don't think he had a single tackle against a RB.

He was freakin' dominant on a few UM drives in that game. But I agree, by the end of it, he wasn't even the best msu defensive player on the field. And UM had 3 or 4 better.

But you've got to look at the entire season. He had name recognition and cred going into the season, then had a very solid season. It's no surprise he won.

 

[big kahuna]

Daly is a helluva player, deserved of this award. But that Brock Coyle didn't finish in the top 20 has to again bring into question the validity of such awards.

 

[hokeyfine]

so then because jj didn't finish in the top 20 voting on the payton does that call into question the validity of the payton? :roll:

 

[NativeGriz]

Daly is a helluva player, deserved of this award. But that Brock Coyle didn't finish in the top 20 has to again bring into question the validity of such awards.

So true, but as you noted your statement does not take anything away from Daly deserving the honor.
Nothing against Daly or Tripp, but I too (like BW) would have taken the Bozeman kid over the Missoula or Helena kid. There is no bad choice there, I just love Brock's heart and motor.

Years ago, Jason Crebo was not mentioned much for national honors, yet he might have been the best LB in UM history. Unfortunately that Helena kid played injured most of his Sr. year.

 

[SACCAT66]

I don't remember all the stats from the UM game (not smart enough to find them on-line) But I thought I remember Daly had 2 sacks, a pass break-up, and a blocked punt in the game.

 

[Eriul]

so then because jj didn't finish in the top 20 voting on the payton does that call into question the validity of the payton? :roll:

Because JJ and Coyle had the same season and stats

 

[grizindabox]

so then because jj didn't finish in the top 20 voting on the payton does that call into question the validity of the payton? :roll:

Nope

 

[hokeyfine]

so then because jj didn't finish in the top 20 voting on the payton does that call into question the validity of the payton? :roll:

Because JJ and Coyle had the same season and stats

huh? my response was to the big kahuna's post stating that because coyle wasn't in the top 20 it questions the validity of the buchanan award.

 

[grizindabox]

Daly is a helluva player, deserved of this award. But that Brock Coyle didn't finish in the top 20 has to again bring into question the validity of such awards.

So because a 2nd team All Big Sky player did not finish in the top 20 for the Buck, the award is questionable?

 

[Eriul]

Daly is a helluva player, deserved of this award. But that Brock Coyle didn't finish in the top 20 has to again bring into question the validity of such awards.

So because a 2nd team All Big Sky player did not finish in the top 20 for the Buck, the award is questionable?

I think the claim is that he is under appreciated and probably should have been a 1st team all big sky and in the conversation for the Buchanan. I don't really know how to dispute that claim as Coyle's stats are better than a lot of the Buchanan watch list and I would be interested to see Coyle's stats against other first team Big Sky players.

 

[Eriul]

so then because jj didn't finish in the top 20 voting on the payton does that call into question the validity of the payton? :roll:

Because JJ and Coyle had the same season and stats

huh? my response was to the big kahuna's post stating that because coyle wasn't in the top 20 it questions the validity of the buchanan award.

And I'm responding to you trying to refute his argument by comparing him to JJ

 

[grizindabox]

Daly is a helluva player, deserved of this award. But that Brock Coyle didn't finish in the top 20 has to again bring into question the validity of such awards.

So because a 2nd team All Big Sky player did not finish in the top 20 for the Buck, the award is questionable?

I think the claim is that he is under appreciated and probably should have been a 1st team all big sky and in the conversation for the Buchanan. I don't really know how to dispute that claim as Coyle's stats are better than a lot of the Buchanan watch list and I would be interested to see Coyle's stats against other first team Big Sky players.

So everyone got it wrong?

 

[Eriul]

Daly is a helluva player, deserved of this award. But that Brock Coyle didn't finish in the top 20 has to again bring into question the validity of such awards.

So because a 2nd team All Big Sky player did not finish in the top 20 for the Buck, the award is questionable?

I think the claim is that he is under appreciated and probably should have been a 1st team all big sky and in the conversation for the Buchanan. I don't really know how to dispute that claim as Coyle's stats are better than a lot of the Buchanan watch list and I would be interested to see Coyle's stats against other first team Big Sky players.

So everyone got it wrong?

That's the claim.

 

[grizindabox]

So because a 2nd team All Big Sky player did not finish in the top 20 for the Buck, the award is questionable?

I think the claim is that he is under appreciated and probably should have been a 1st team all big sky and in the conversation for the Buchanan. I don't really know how to dispute that claim as Coyle's stats are better than a lot of the Buchanan watch list and I would be interested to see Coyle's stats against other first team Big Sky players.

So everyone got it wrong?

That's the claim.

Has anyone not a Griz fan make that claim?

 

[Eriul]

I think the claim is that he is under appreciated and probably should have been a 1st team all big sky and in the conversation for the Buchanan. I don't really know how to dispute that claim as Coyle's stats are better than a lot of the Buchanan watch list and I would be interested to see Coyle's stats against other first team Big Sky players.

So everyone got it wrong?

That's the claim.

Has anyone not a Griz fan make that claim?

I don't think non griz fans know who he is. But it's actually quite common for players to go unnoticed while demolishing statistically and on the field. I mean it happened to the Griz last year with Wags getting 2nd in the fcs in sacks and didn't make any of the all american lists or honorable mention.. There are numerous examples of this for any team