Msu OC charged with DUI

[bgbigdog]

All these people calling for Sixx’s head are ridiculous. If the same happened over here, and it just might at some point, ain’t NOBODY going to call for Bobby’s head. NOT.ONE.SINGLE.PERSON. You people are nuts. And you act like you’ve never driven after a few drinks. Probably less than 5% of the people here deserve to say the poop that is being said on this thread. Just a bunch of hypocrites!

Sorry not sorry one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever read on Egriz and that is saying something. Crashed a university car, tried to cover it up, drove off drunk in another car still hammered, and you wanna act like that’s all fine and good. fudge that.

Though its early, clearly the DPOY. The sad reality is that he's not the only one who thinks this.

 

[your wrong]

That is really bad. Garza’s was awful too, yet they made it disappear somehow. Will be interesting to see how they handle this one.

One game is a pretty stiff penalty, according to BV maybe he is next black velvet or whatever his name is.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Talked to a buddy who went on cat fan site. It didn't take them long, but they've turned into DUI apologists. Let the process run its course...Garza was already punished...etc.

He told me very few are asking why the HC doesn't take substantive actions. One poster even bragged about how they have managed to keep other indiscretions out of the press....

That program is tanking in front of our eyes. Their fall will be as quick as their rise.

 

[Griz Time]

I can't remember but did Blaine Taylor get fired by UM, for his DUI?

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

Hey, where is Pat Williams to have an opinion on this scandal. 2/3 of the cat coaching leadership has a DUI. That's unacceptable. Let's see if their president has the fortitude to do the right thing and fire Vigen. He is a failed leader of men. Why would a parent entrust that staff to help turn their boys into men?

But, an even bigger problem is the dude couldn't even kick. Loser.

Fire the Coach and Athletc Director.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Talked to a buddy who went on cat fan site. It didn't take them long, but they've turned into DUI apologists. Let the process run its course...Garza was already punished...etc.

He told me very few are asking why the HC doesn't take substantive actions. One poster even bragged about how they have managed to keep other indiscretions out of the press....

That program is tanking in front of our eyes. Their fall will be as quick as their rise.

Seriously? WTF?

 

[oldrunner]

Let me get this staight. He wrecked a state car while driving drunk and then tried to run away from the scene?

I guess the good news is he didn't kill anyone. :thumb:

I know that Montana is not Utah, but I'm pretty sure that would not fly here.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I don't think there's any duty or requirement to stay on scene if you wreck your own car. If you hit a parked car, and can't find the owner, you're just supposed to leave a note before you leave.

Again, if you crash your own car, I don't think you have to report the accident.

I can't imagine anything changes if you're driving a state-owned or dealer-provided car. Why would it?

The car accident laws seem to apply to situations where there are injuries, or where 2 cars are involved in the accident. See above for the law where one is a parked car where the owner is not around.

Anyone who actually knows the law, please speak up.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Talked to a buddy who went on cat fan site. It didn't take them long, but they've turned into DUI apologists. Let the process run its course...Garza was already punished...etc.

He told me very few are asking why the HC doesn't take substantive actions. One poster even bragged about how they have managed to keep other indiscretions out of the press....

That program is tanking in front of our eyes. Their fall will be as quick as their rise.

Seriously? WTF?

I just can't bring myself to go to the site, so can't confirm.

Maybe one of the better cat posters can clarify/confirm/deny?

 

[ordigger]

All these people calling for Sixx’s head are ridiculous. If the same happened over here, and it just might at some point, ain’t NOBODY going to call for Bobby’s head. NOT.ONE.SINGLE.PERSON. You people are nuts. And you act like you’ve never driven after a few drinks. Probably less than 5% of the people here deserve to say the poop that is being said on this thread. Just a bunch of hypocrites!

Sorry not sorry one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever read on Egriz and that is saying something. Crashed a university car, tried to cover it up, drove off drunk in another car still hammered, and you wanna act like that’s all fine and good. fudge that.

Well it is Growler, what did you expect?

 

[retiredpopo]

I don't think there's any duty or requirement to stay on scene if you wreck your own car. If you hit a parked car, and can't find the owner, you're just supposed to leave a note before you leave.

Again, if you crash your own car, I don't think you have to report the accident.

I can't imagine anything changes if you're driving a state-owned or dealer-provided car. Why would it?

The car accident laws seem to apply to situations where there are injuries, or where 2 cars are involved in the accident. See above for the law where one is a parked car where the owner is not around.

Anyone who actually knows the law, please speak up.

https://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/title_0610/chapter_0070/part_0010/sections_index.html

 

[garizzalies]

That is really bad. Garza’s was awful too, yet they made it disappear somehow. Will be interesting to see how they handle this one.

One game is a pretty stiff penalty, according to BV maybe he is next black velvet or whatever his name is.

Yea such a stiff penalty because they are molding young men

“Missing a game as a coach — that's a stiff penalty,” MSU head coach Brent Vigen said Dec. 5, 2022 when asked about Garza's suspension. “We are in this profession, obviously, to develop and mold young men, but then to also be part of that competition on a Saturday. So he served that penalty in addition to a few other things.”

 

[Wolf777]

https://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/title_0610/chapter_0070/part_0010/sections_index.html

Montana Code Annotated 2021
TITLE 61. MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 7. ACCIDENTS AND ACCIDENT REPORTS
Part 1. Uniform Accident Reporting Act
Immediate Notice Of Accidents
61-7-108. Immediate notice of accidents. The driver of a vehicle who knows or reasonably should have known that the driver has been involved in an accident resulting in injury to or death of any person, striking the body of a deceased person, or property damage to an apparent extent of $1,000 or more shall immediately by the quickest means of communication give notice of the accident to the local police department if the accident occurs within a municipality, otherwise to the office of the county sheriff or the nearest office of the highway patrol.

History: En. Sec. 8, Ch. 210, L. 1939; amd. Sec. 4, Ch. 256, L. 1959; R.C.M. 1947, 32-1207; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 59, L. 1987; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 115, L. 1999; amd. Sec. 5, Ch. 235, L. 2011; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 314, L. 2013.


It was quoted in the original article which was spot on about the charges outside of the DUI as well as the vehicle that the OC was driving initially. Never really thought that the O in OC could be so offensive. Luckily nobody was hurt.

 

[mthoopsfan]

https://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/title_0610/chapter_0070/part_0010/sections_index.html

Montana Code Annotated 2021
TITLE 61. MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 7. ACCIDENTS AND ACCIDENT REPORTS
Part 1. Uniform Accident Reporting Act
Immediate Notice Of Accidents
61-7-108. Immediate notice of accidents. The driver of a vehicle who knows or reasonably should have known that the driver has been involved in an accident resulting in injury to or death of any person, striking the body of a deceased person, or property damage to an apparent extent of $1,000 or more shall immediately by the quickest means of communication give notice of the accident to the local police department if the accident occurs within a municipality, otherwise to the office of the county sheriff or the nearest office of the highway patrol.

History: En. Sec. 8, Ch. 210, L. 1939; amd. Sec. 4, Ch. 256, L. 1959; R.C.M. 1947, 32-1207; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 59, L. 1987; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 115, L. 1999; amd. Sec. 5, Ch. 235, L. 2011; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 314, L. 2013.


It was quoted in the original article which was spot on about the charges outside of the DUI as well as the vehicle that the OC was driving initially. Never really thought that the O in OC could be so offensive. Luckily nobody was hurt.

Thanks. I am aware of that statute, but had missed the citation in the article. Almost no one calls police for an accident involving only damage to one's own car. For example, who calls police when you run into your garage door, or run off the road and damage your vehicle a bit by hitting a rock or whatever. Who calls police when you hit a deer and knock it off the road, or the deer is able to run off? Who calls police when you run into a tree or rock when you are hunting or camping? In this instance, it must have been clear the damage was over $1,000, because damage under that must not be reported. I have not seen anything saying what happened or what was wrong with the car.

Police reports for minor damage, as opposed to injury, are more for insurance purposes than anything else.

As I said, one doesn't have to stay on scene after hitting a parked car. If you can't find owner, you leave your information for the owners.

"Duty Upon Striking Unattended Vehicle
61-7-106. Duty upon striking unattended vehicle. The driver of any vehicle which collides with any vehicle which is unattended shall immediately stop and shall then and there either locate and notify the operator or owner of such vehicle of the name and address of the driver and owner of the vehicle striking the unattended vehicle or shall leave in a conspicuous place in the vehicle struck a written notice giving the name and address of the driver and of the owner of the vehicle doing the striking and a statement of the circumstances thereof."

I wouldn't stick around if damage had only been done to my car, and I had been drinking. I'd get a ride home, assuming the car was out of the way. Not calling the police for a one-call accident with no other property damage, is much less of a problem than a dui. The guy was very stupid to drive the other car.

Note that before cell phones, it was often impossible to get ahold of police from the scene.

Again, thanks.

 

[#15 Fan]

Montana Code Annotated 2021
TITLE 61. MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 7. ACCIDENTS AND ACCIDENT REPORTS
Part 1. Uniform Accident Reporting Act
Immediate Notice Of Accidents
61-7-108. Immediate notice of accidents. The driver of a vehicle who knows or reasonably should have known that the driver has been involved in an accident resulting in injury to or death of any person, striking the body of a deceased person, or property damage to an apparent extent of $1,000 or more shall immediately by the quickest means of communication give notice of the accident to the local police department if the accident occurs within a municipality, otherwise to the office of the county sheriff or the nearest office of the highway patrol.

History: En. Sec. 8, Ch. 210, L. 1939; amd. Sec. 4, Ch. 256, L. 1959; R.C.M. 1947, 32-1207; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 59, L. 1987; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 115, L. 1999; amd. Sec. 5, Ch. 235, L. 2011; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 314, L. 2013.


It was quoted in the original article which was spot on about the charges outside of the DUI as well as the vehicle that the OC was driving initially. Never really thought that the O in OC could be so offensive. Luckily nobody was hurt.

Thanks. I am aware of that statute, but had missed the citation in the article. Almost no one calls police for an accident involving only damage to one's own car. For example, who calls police when you run into your garage door, or run off the road and damage your vehicle a bit by hitting a rock or whatever. Who calls police when you hit a deer and knock it off the road, or the deer is able to run off? Who calls police when you run into a tree or rock when you are hunting or camping? In this instance, it must have been clear the damage was over $1,000, because damage under that must not be reported. I have not seen anything saying what happened or what was wrong with the car.

Police reports for minor damage, as opposed to injury, are more for insurance purposes than anything else.

As I said, one doesn't have to stay on scene after hitting a parked car. If you can't find owner, you leave your information for the owners.

"Duty Upon Striking Unattended Vehicle
61-7-106. Duty upon striking unattended vehicle. The driver of any vehicle which collides with any vehicle which is unattended shall immediately stop and shall then and there either locate and notify the operator or owner of such vehicle of the name and address of the driver and owner of the vehicle striking the unattended vehicle or shall leave in a conspicuous place in the vehicle struck a written notice giving the name and address of the driver and of the owner of the vehicle doing the striking and a statement of the circumstances thereof."

I wouldn't stick around if damage had only been done to my car, and I had been drinking. I'd get a ride home, assuming the car was out of the way. Not calling the police for a one-call accident with no other property damage, is much less of a problem than a dui. The guy was very stupid to drive the other car.

Note that before cell phones, it was often impossible to get ahold of police from the scene.

Again, thanks.

You would be surprised just how many people call city LE or MHP (especially MHP), even if it's a minor dent and the deer ran off. It's like people are good-natured and/or know the law and choose to follow it, and since $1000 damage is nothing to a vehicle, any damage is called in. I also know some people do it because some insurance companies have attempted to not pay out since they didn't follow state law (insurance eventually paid).

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Seriously? WTF?

I just can't bring myself to go to the site, so can't confirm.

Maybe one of the better cat posters can clarify/confirm/deny?

I went there to look. I think I can still count my visits on two hands. One user said he represented a star Bobcat WR who was facing six or seven charges, beat them all, and kept everything out of the papers. What a weird thing to post!

I slightly disagree with your characterization of the thread. It’s not as “rah-rah leadership always does the right thing” as I thought it would be. Plenty of Bobfans saying both coordinators should be gone. But, you’re right, many apologists.

Hopping in the shower now.

 

[3-7-77]

Hey, where is Pat Williams to have an opinion on this scandal.

Why, oh WHY did you have to bring up that name.
Every time I see it, I have to spit!

 

[EverettGriz]

Montana Code Annotated 2021
TITLE 61. MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 7. ACCIDENTS AND ACCIDENT REPORTS
Part 1. Uniform Accident Reporting Act
Immediate Notice Of Accidents
61-7-108. Immediate notice of accidents. The driver of a vehicle who knows or reasonably should have known that the driver has been involved in an accident resulting in injury to or death of any person, striking the body of a deceased person, or property damage to an apparent extent of $1,000 or more shall immediately by the quickest means of communication give notice of the accident to the local police department if the accident occurs within a municipality, otherwise to the office of the county sheriff or the nearest office of the highway patrol.

History: En. Sec. 8, Ch. 210, L. 1939; amd. Sec. 4, Ch. 256, L. 1959; R.C.M. 1947, 32-1207; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 59, L. 1987; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 115, L. 1999; amd. Sec. 5, Ch. 235, L. 2011; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 314, L. 2013.


It was quoted in the original article which was spot on about the charges outside of the DUI as well as the vehicle that the OC was driving initially. Never really thought that the O in OC could be so offensive. Luckily nobody was hurt.

Thanks. I am aware of that statute, but had missed the citation in the article. Almost no one calls police for an accident involving only damage to one's own car. For example, who calls police when you run into your garage door, or run off the road and damage your vehicle a bit by hitting a rock or whatever. Who calls police when you hit a deer and knock it off the road, or the deer is able to run off? Who calls police when you run into a tree or rock when you are hunting or camping? In this instance, it must have been clear the damage was over $1,000, because damage under that must not be reported. I have not seen anything saying what happened or what was wrong with the car.

Police reports for minor damage, as opposed to injury, are more for insurance purposes than anything else.

As I said, one doesn't have to stay on scene after hitting a parked car. If you can't find owner, you leave your information for the owners.

"Duty Upon Striking Unattended Vehicle
61-7-106. Duty upon striking unattended vehicle. The driver of any vehicle which collides with any vehicle which is unattended shall immediately stop and shall then and there either locate and notify the operator or owner of such vehicle of the name and address of the driver and owner of the vehicle striking the unattended vehicle or shall leave in a conspicuous place in the vehicle struck a written notice giving the name and address of the driver and of the owner of the vehicle doing the striking and a statement of the circumstances thereof."

I wouldn't stick around if damage had only been done to my car, and I had been drinking. I'd get a ride home, assuming the car was out of the way. Not calling the police for a one-call accident with no other property damage, is much less of a problem than a dui. The guy was very stupid to drive the other car.

Note that before cell phones, it was often impossible to get ahold of police from the scene.

Again, thanks.

MAC 61-7-108 doesn't specify that property damage in excess of $1,000 necessarily be third party in order to require immediate notice to the appropriate legal authority. It's safe to assume if the vehicle needed towing the damage well exceeded the reporting threshold.

Also the facts differ here from your examples. First, it wasn't Housewright's vehicle. And second, he obviously collided with SOMETHING he does not own; a fence, a house, another vehicle, farm equipment, whatever. Hell, even damage to a mature tree can run into the tens of thousands. It's clearly a hit and run by MT statute.

 

[Griz Addict]

Sorry not sorry one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever read on Egriz and that is saying something. Crashed a university car, tried to cover it up, drove off drunk in another car still hammered, and you wanna act like that’s all fine and good. fudge that.

Though its early, clearly the DPOY. The sad reality is that he's not the only one who thinks this.

Apparently some people think these coaches are teenagers that deserve a second chance... these are grown ass men that are suppose to be role models for the student athletes.... tf is going on? The oc and DC deserve to be fired. Vegan should be fired just for the fact that he hired a guy knowing he's had previous dues. These aren't people you want your kids looking up to.

 

[Griz Addict]

MSU needs to make a documentary called "Murders, Meth, and DUIs" maybe throw PEDs in there somewhere too. Msu is a fucking clown show