More trouble for Mr. Donaldson

[PlayerRep]

I'm slightly confused as to how you did some checking as to whether I exist or not if you don't know who I am. Would you care to answer that for me? It would be interesting if the mods were giving you information on me. And for the record, I most certainly do attend the UM PT school...I have no reason to lie about it. It's not like attending there makes me some sort of insider.

There are a few mods here who give out personal information on posters. Don't worry, though. Chris and those mods will be legally culpable if PlayaPlaya tries to do anything to you.

You are right about the mods having their little group of buddies whom they readily give out personal info to. I exposed one of them recently....caught him red-handed when one of the posters who received the personal info bragged about it on the board.

Even funnier, one of the mods banned me for last week for "possible NCAA recruiting violations". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like banning a poster will prevent NCAA violations. These mods must think they are really important! The coaches had a good laugh with me about that banning!

You don't know any coaches. Recall that you were asking a week or two for the phone number and email address of the o-line coach. You didn't even know his name. That was pretty funny, as the o-line coach and recruiting coordinator is Scott Gragg, one of the best and most high profile Griz of all time. You know so little about recruiting and ncaa rules that you were bragging on the board about trying to persuade a dad to have his kid come to UM.

 

[Growler1]

Uh,

I'm slightly confused as to how you did some checking as to whether I exist or not if you don't know who I am. Would you care to answer that for me? It would be interesting if the mods were giving you information on me. And for the record, I most certainly do attend the UM PT school...I have no reason to lie about it. It's not like attending there makes me some sort of insider.

There are a few mods here who give out personal information on posters. Don't worry, though. Chris and those mods will be legally culpable if PlayaPlaya tries to do anything to you.

You are right about the mods having their little group of buddies whom they readily give out personal info to. I exposed one of them recently....caught him red-handed when one of the posters who received the personal info bragged about it on the board.

Even funnier, one of the mods banned me for last week for "possible NCAA recruiting violations". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like banning a poster will prevent NCAA violations. These mods must think they are really important! The coaches had a good laugh with me about that banning!

You don't know any coaches. Recall that you were asking a week or two for the phone number and email address of the o-line coach. You didn't even know his name. That was pretty funny, as the o-line coach and recruiting coordinator is Scott Gragg, one of the best and most high profile Griz of all time. You know so little about recruiting and ncaa rules that you were bragging on the board about trying to persuade a dad to have his kid come to UM.

Uh, I know a couple of them now, big guy! Sorry to move in on your cozy little world of jock-sniffing. A week during recruiting season changes the game. And, spelling was never my strong point, but i'm sure you are very good at it.

 

[PlayerRep]

From tonight's Missoulian article. Muir is the Missoula police chief. Presumably, the police authorities are well aware of the high incidence of false rape reports and try to filter out the false ones before unfairly accusing someone.

"When Muir visited in person with that woman and another who'd filed a sexual assault complaint, "we had a discussion here in my office about the fact that there is false reporting that does take place," he said. "There are studies that have shown numbers are closer to 40 to 50 percent."

Later he emailed the woman a 2009 article about those studies, two of which used polygraph tests. One of those examined 1,218 reports of rape on Air Force bases in the 1980s and subjected 546 of those making allegations in "unresolved" cases to polygraphs.

"Twenty seven percent of these complainants admitted they had fabricated their accusations just before taking the polygraph or right after they failed the test," the Forensic Examiner article said. That study combined the finding with other results to come up with a false accusation rate of 45 percent."


Read more: http://missoulian.com/news/local/research-varies-on-rate-of-false-rape-reports/article_fe94e340-39b8-11e1-bbe1-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1iqPQhCPW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Based on the fact that they try to filter out the false ones before accusing somebody, is it safe to assume that since Donaldson has been arrested there's a decent chance it wasn't a false accusation?

I assume the police/prosecutor have tried to make sure it isn't a false allegation. Whether it's a "decent chance" or not, I don't know. I assume the affidavit submitted on Monday for the initial appearance will present a good case to support the charge. It may even sound like a slam dunk to some, but note that it is the police/prosecutor's version of the incident, and won't be fair or balanced. There may be things stated that wouldn't be admitted or stand up in court. The defense side and lawyer will almost certainly have a difference version or view of the facts, even though they won't submit anything in writing or probably say much. I assume there will be a good defense lawyer or law firm. People and lawyer with criminal experience or knowledge will almost immediately be able to see most of the strengths and weaknesses of the case.

 

[ordigger]

Ok Player I will bite. A more interesting stat would be only 8% of reported sexual assaults are falsely reported and there is some discussion that this is even a little high due to the police not believing the report. I have not been able to confirm your 54% being dropped, but it is fairly obvious why. Many people, blame the victim and so the victim is more on trial than the defendent. A common tactic of lawyers like yourself. So the victims who already are ashamed prefer to not go through the pain and be victimized again.

I read somewhere that it is estimated that over 70% of all rapes are not even reported. Another staggering number, but why would someone want to come forward, when they are portrayed as the wrong doer. I've read here about men falsely accused, but I remember a friend, from long ago, who was brutally raped by two men....however she initially did not go to the hospital. Friends and family finally convinced her to go to the police, however both men got off because of lack of evidence, and the he said-she said thing. And guess what? I knew the family, she was a nice kid.....23 years later she killed herself. I dont think she ever overcame those demons. So gentleman, it goes both ways.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

PR, I'm still eagerly awaiting your response as to how you know who I am. Based on what you said, it's obvious you don't know me, but I would love to hear another one of your b.s. responses.

The fact that he is trying to find out who you are says more about his particular variety of psychosis that anything else

Speaking from experience......if you have kids Playa Rape will threaten them. Its what he does behind the scenes. He is a liar and a total douchebag tool.

Alpha is the liar. I have copies of dozens of PM's and posts where Alpha threatened my family and me. They're all bundled up and ready to be given to legal authorities if it starts this again.

I beg you to hand over the "dozens" :roll: of PMs.

There were 3 times since the threat on my son that I have PMed you.

Besides I am not the kind of guy how talks in a PM, if I was going to do something about it it would hit you in the face before you even saw it coming.

Please, please please turn over the "dozens" to legal authorities........once again all talk and BS from the slickster lawdog

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

As big of an ass that Alpha is...he doesn't seem the type to threaten people. He seems fairly jovial and sarcastic most of the time, I just can't picture it. I'm still waiting on how you know who I am btw.

I dont care either way what anyone thinks but you are spot on the money with your assessment, PR threatened my son (under 10yr old) and then tried to cover it up, by changing his screen name once again from GrizFan10 to PlayaRape

Green26
Grizzle
Grizfan10
PlayaRape

I know there are more..............................because you are a fraud and a liar.

 

[PlayerRep]

As big of an ass that Alpha is...he doesn't seem the type to threaten people. He seems fairly jovial and sarcastic most of the time, I just can't picture it. I'm still waiting on how you know who I am btw.

I dont care either way what anyone thinks but you are spot on the money with your assessment, PR threatened my son (under 10yr old) and then tried to cover it up, by changing his screen name once again from GrizFan10 to PlayaRape

Green26
Grizzle
Grizfan10
PlayaRape

I know there are more..............................because you are a fraud and a liar.

I never knew you had a son (and actually still don't). It is true that you once altered a PM I sent you, and added two sentences to it. I immediately printed my PM, and still have it. i also printed copies of other threats from you against my family and me. On occasion, I've shown this information to a few people, including Brint. He immediately saw your dishonesty.

 

[big kahuna]

I hate the off-season.

 

[OptimusPrime]

It's good to see "adults" taking the high road. This could have turned ugly otherwise...

 

[kemajic]

It's good to see "adults" taking the high road. This could have turned ugly otherwise...

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[100%GRIZ]

There is just Too Much LOVE on this football board!

 

[grizindabox]

Why is it that Player knows everyone when it serves his argument, but all of a sudden does not know someone when it also serves his argument?

 

[Grizzoola]

Mr. Donaldson is a product of the football culture. Kids even in middle schools are labeled as jocks by their classmates, both in admiration and derision. Even more important, their athleticism is noticed & nurtured by their parents, coaches, schools, the community, etc. Nothing wrong w/ that. It's just who we are as Americans.

But, the football culture focuses on people (players, coaches, community) who LOVE hitting and being hit. They understand it and promote it. Getting not only hurt, but injured, is a badge of football manhood. Having surgery & coming back to play is the ultimate badge of honor. I don't understand this mentality, but I do enjoy watching (WATCHING, mind you) football games. BTW, do you remember that Green Bay Packers player (40 years ago, I think) displaying the nine or so surgeries he had on ONE knee? Jerry Kramer (G), I think, out of U of Idaho.

They love and promote on-field violence. It's some kind of katharsis for everybody, except for a larger number of people in a community (not just the women) who reject this kind of conduct, legit, or not. It's not unusual for the larger community to come down hard on football players who carry that violence off the field. Hockey is a violent sport, perhaps more so than football, yet I'm not aware hockey players are cited for off-ice violations as much as football players are.

So, I'll keep my focus on football. Maybe the nature of the sport of football is not at issue, here. It certainly is part of a tradition of most American colleges, and I'll throw in the bands and cheerleaders, here that make college football so different from pro football, focusing on the game as a PART of something than a thing in itself.

So, what am I getting at re: Beau? Maybe, just maybe, his being a Griz football player has nothing to do w/ his conduct for which he was arrested. It MAY be that even if he were an average student, he would still be up for these charges. Still, when 90% + of Griz football players DO NOT violate the law, something has to be asked why some do, to the extent of embarrassing the university and the program.

I don't know if the football culture is responsible for Beau's, or any other player's, conduct. It seems the media certainly thinks so. Yet, there's another aspect of the football culture that may be more telling re: players like Beau: the attitude toward women. This board reveals the complete denigration of women, in countless posts and threads. "Oh, we love and respect women. Our Hotties threads are entirely respectful." Ok, I'll give you that, but no one on this board can deny that the football culture is sexist in nature. It's just a fact. You all use references to females in insulting each other: "douchbag," "cunt," etc. To put down another guy, you refer to him as some kind of female. IOW, females are a second-class human species. The football culture emphasizes, EMPHASIZES, male domination of females.
In some ways, that's ok. You can't help it.

But, there's a few too many football players, like Beau, who're unable to disassociate themselves from this culture when they're out in society. It really gets back to the kind of person you are, fundamentally.
90% + of Griz football players would not rape a girl, even if they had a chance. It's the kind of persons they are. They party, they drink, they drive, like anyone else in society, BUT THEY NEVER FORGET WHO THEY ARE and who a young woman, another person, is.

Maybe I'm defeating my own thesis, here: The football culture demeans women. I'm not exonerating Beau in saying that it's not Beau, but the culture. But, still, the football culture does demean women, as evidenced on this board. It's too bad Beau, if guilty, didn't know where the line is. As far as that goes, it's too bad more men in our larger society don't realize that.

 

[grizpsych]

There are various stats cited on the web indicating there are relatively few falsely reported rape allegations. However, here's a study to the contrary, showing an astounding number of false allegations.

http://www.anandaanswers.com/pages/naaFalse.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's another false report article. It's written by a woman.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194032,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To be clear, my provision of these articles is not any indication that the Donaldson claim is false. I'm just doing some web research and calling attention to some articles and stats.

Holy crap, fox news and some dude that can't get published in a peer-reviewed journal. It must be true.

Okay, then look at the 13% conviction rate cited in the Wash Post article, linked above, and in many other articles.

Yeah, another stalwart organization known for its integrity.

 

[grizpsych]

From tonight's Missoulian article. Muir is the Missoula police chief. Presumably, the police authorities are well aware of the high incidence of false rape reports and try to filter out the false ones before unfairly accusing someone.

"When Muir visited in person with that woman and another who'd filed a sexual assault complaint, "we had a discussion here in my office about the fact that there is false reporting that does take place," he said. "There are studies that have shown numbers are closer to 40 to 50 percent."

Later he emailed the woman a 2009 article about those studies, two of which used polygraph tests. One of those examined 1,218 reports of rape on Air Force bases in the 1980s and subjected 546 of those making allegations in "unresolved" cases to polygraphs.

"Twenty seven percent of these complainants admitted they had fabricated their accusations just before taking the polygraph or right after they failed the test," the Forensic Examiner article said. That study combined the finding with other results to come up with a false accusation rate of 45 percent."


Read more: http://missoulian.com/news/local/research-varies-on-rate-of-false-rape-reports/article_fe94e340-39b8-11e1-bbe1-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1iqPQhCPW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

With this written, you have now become the biggest douche bag on the interwebs. Education wise, you are probably the worst student to ever come out of The University of Montana. Hopefully, you will never produce offspring to contaminate the rest of the world.

And, to everyone else, please read the entire article.

 

[grizbymarriage]

Time for everyone to sit down, cool off and let the police, the UM administration and the coaches do their jobs?

With so few facts, it's pretty tough to draw an intelligent conclusion . . . notice, I said an "intelligent" conclusion.

 

[PlayerRep]

From tonight's Missoulian article. Muir is the Missoula police chief. Presumably, the police authorities are well aware of the high incidence of false rape reports and try to filter out the false ones before unfairly accusing someone.

"When Muir visited in person with that woman and another who'd filed a sexual assault complaint, "we had a discussion here in my office about the fact that there is false reporting that does take place," he said. "There are studies that have shown numbers are closer to 40 to 50 percent."

Later he emailed the woman a 2009 article about those studies, two of which used polygraph tests. One of those examined 1,218 reports of rape on Air Force bases in the 1980s and subjected 546 of those making allegations in "unresolved" cases to polygraphs.

"Twenty seven percent of these complainants admitted they had fabricated their accusations just before taking the polygraph or right after they failed the test," the Forensic Examiner article said. That study combined the finding with other results to come up with a false accusation rate of 45 percent."


Read more: http://missoulian.com/news/local/research-varies-on-rate-of-false-rape-reports/article_fe94e340-39b8-11e1-bbe1-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1iqPQhCPW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

With this written, you have now become the biggest douche bag on the interwebs. Education wise, you are probably the worst student to ever come out of The University of Montana. Hopefully, you will never produce offspring to contaminate the rest of the world.

And, to everyone else, please read the entire article.

Hey Mr. Psychobabblle, perhaps you are the one who ought to read all of the articles and the links. It's pretty clear from reading your psychobabble that your can't write a clearly written para. Probably indicates you can't read either. I take some paras from a Missoulian article discussing the information cited by the Missoula police chief, and you come after me. That's pretty funny.

 

[Sportin' Life]

Hey Mr. Psychobabblle, perhaps you are the one who ought to read all of the articles and the links. It's pretty clear from reading your psychobabble that your can't write a clearly. Probably indicates you can't read either.

:lol:

 

[GoGrizOpponents]

Does no one like this PlayerRep guy? It seems like he's always outnumbered. :lol:

 

[grizpsych]

From tonight's Missoulian article. Muir is the Missoula police chief. Presumably, the police authorities are well aware of the high incidence of false rape reports and try to filter out the false ones before unfairly accusing someone.

"When Muir visited in person with that woman and another who'd filed a sexual assault complaint, "we had a discussion here in my office about the fact that there is false reporting that does take place," he said. "There are studies that have shown numbers are closer to 40 to 50 percent."

Later he emailed the woman a 2009 article about those studies, two of which used polygraph tests. One of those examined 1,218 reports of rape on Air Force bases in the 1980s and subjected 546 of those making allegations in "unresolved" cases to polygraphs.

"Twenty seven percent of these complainants admitted they had fabricated their accusations just before taking the polygraph or right after they failed the test," the Forensic Examiner article said. That study combined the finding with other results to come up with a false accusation rate of 45 percent."


Read more: http://missoulian.com/news/local/research-varies-on-rate-of-false-rape-reports/article_fe94e340-39b8-11e1-bbe1-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1iqPQhCPW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

With this written, you have now become the biggest douche bag on the interwebs. Education wise, you are probably the worst student to ever come out of The University of Montana. Hopefully, you will never produce offspring to contaminate the rest of the world.

And, to everyone else, please read the entire article.

Hey Mr. Psychobabblle, perhaps you are the one who ought to read all of the articles and the links. It's pretty clear from reading your psychobabble that your can't write a clearly written para. Probably indicates you can't read either. I take some paras from a Missoulian article discussing the information cited by the Missoula police chief, and you come after me. That's pretty funny.

A couple more edits and this will be a good para.