Montana QB's excelling

[grizcountry420]

Oh Gee, yet another football thread turned into a pissing contest between scat fans trolling our board, and Griz fans willing to play-down to their sophomoric level. Thanks guys for ruining another thread.

How did you think this thread was going to pan out?

 

[-MiningCityGriz-]

Cooks hit the road to improve game

Updated: June 25, 2013 at 8:55 am

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The Cook brothers, Dylan, left, and Dallas.

It’s been a busy couple of months for Butte High’s Dallas and Dylan Cook. The brothers have hit the road in an effort to take their game to the next level.

“Since we don’t play spring sports, we get an opportunity to get a jump start on football camps so we can continue to get better,” said Dallas Cook, the reigning Class AA offensive MVP.

Dallas Cook, who will be a senior during the 2013 season, passed for a school record 3,613 yards and 32 touchdowns during Butte High’s run to the state championship. He also shattered the school’s record for total yards with 4,516. Dylan Cook, who will be a sophomore, quarterbacked the junior varsity team for the Bulldogs last season.

The brothers attended the Football University (FBU) Camp in Seattle on May 17-19. Actually, they more than attended, they excelled at the invitation-only and world-renowned camp that featured 22 quarterbacks from Idaho, Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona and Georgia.

Dallas placed second in the camp and earned an invitation to FBU’s ultimate football camp, the Top Gun camp next month in Dublin, Ohio.

Top Gun is the culmination of all positions taught at FBU camps throughout the United States, Canada and Europe, inviting the elite players from each camp.

FBU coaches Chris Miller, a former Atlanta Falcons quarterback, and Chad Carpenter, who played QB for the Arizona Cardinals, praised both Cook boys for their footwork, technique and quick release. Dylan finished in the top 10 of the high school class.

The Cook brothers were invited to the Nike Football Training Camp in Eugene, Ore. Both boys threw well at the June 9 camp, working with talented receivers. The brothers worked on deep placing the ball over the outside shoulder on deep fade routs, while also working on check downs to backs and tight ends during 7-on-7 drill.

Dallas Cook was also invited to attend the University of Southern California’s Rising Stars Cap, which is this week, and the Washington State University Individual Minicamp, which was last week.

Along with Butte High coach Arie Grey, Cook and some Bulldog teammates competed in the Oregon Ducks team camp recently. The Bulldogs competed against tough competition from Idaho, Alaska, Hawaii and Samoa.

The Bulldogs competed over the weekend at the nationwide 7-on-7 tournament in Seattle. There, Butte High advanced to the semifinals of the tournament sponsored by the National Guard and the NFL High School Player Development program. Tacoma, Wash., beat the Butte High boys by three points in the semifinals.

The Bulldogs open camp for their title defense in August.

What's the "Dallas" off the field and in the classroom like...?? just wondering... :egriz:

Very immature he let a state championship get to his head I would know Im in the same grade as his brother who is also immature.

 

[WaGriz4life]

Just so you rules nazis like 2506 know, Insider sites for the major college programs have moderators who leak information from the coaches to the board subscribers about recruits all the time. This is one of those uninforceable rules. It's like the people warning everyone not to tweet recruits. Recruits get tweets from fans literally every single day.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Just so you rules nazis like 2506 know, Insider sites for the major college programs have moderators who leak information from the coaches to the board subscribers about recruits all the time. This is one of those uninforceable rules. It's like the people warning everyone not to tweet recruits. Recruits get tweets from fans literally every single day.

No wonder the NCAA is investigating UM.

There seems to be a long way to go to create a "Culture of Compliance" in Missoula.

 

[Copper Griz]

I don't remember saying this coach made him an official offer, so are you saying a coach can't discuss a kid when asked about him - when an offer is not even on the table yet? I broached the subject with the coach - not the other way around and why do you reference the Griz AD and program? You falsely assumed the coach I referenced was a Griz. Not the case and there are other BSC conference coaches who are in Montana and travel for certain events. Some of them are even nice people who carry on conversations and talk about football because they understand this is a small state and connections are very important. It is who you know frequently, not what you know. So you keep making your assumptions. Assume. Makes an ass out of you!!!

Correct. A coach can't discuss any PSA, regardless of if there is an offer out to him/her. An OC talking to a fan/booster about PSAs is an NCAA violation. You may want to email the coach and/or UM compliance so the rest of the coaches know that talking about PSAs to the general public is against NCAA recruiting policy.

At least there is one other poster here that knows something :thumb:

So what is it CG, is your original story BS (likely) or was that coach in violation ov the NCAA (unlikely)

I was trying to be respectful, but now you pissed me off. It is your teams coach you dumb ass. Nice guy and he obviously does not know the regs. Beers were involved, maybe that had something to do with it. For what it is worth - I would have asked the same question of our coaches. The NCAA can try and track me down and ask me questions. Good luck with that. Cats 2506 - you re just a dick. Period!! The discussion on my end is over and not another word will be typed on my end. You just could not let it go.

 

[grizfan95]

I don't remember saying this coach made him an official offer, so are you saying a coach can't discuss a kid when asked about him - when an offer is not even on the table yet? I broached the subject with the coach - not the other way around and why do you reference the Griz AD and program? You falsely assumed the coach I referenced was a Griz. Not the case and there are other BSC conference coaches who are in Montana and travel for certain events. Some of them are even nice people who carry on conversations and talk about football because they understand this is a small state and connections are very important. It is who you know frequently, not what you know. So you keep making your assumptions. Assume. Makes an ass out of you!!!

Correct. A coach can't discuss any PSA, regardless of if there is an offer out to him/her. An OC talking to a fan/booster about PSAs is an NCAA violation. You may want to email the coach and/or UM compliance so the rest of the coaches know that talking about PSAs to the general public is against NCAA recruiting policy.

At least there is one other poster here that knows something :thumb:

So what is it CG, is your original story BS (likely) or was that coach in violation ov the NCAA (unlikely)

I was trying to be respectful, but now you pissed me off. It is your teams coach you dumb ass. Nice guy and he obviously does not know the regs. Beers were involved, maybe that had something to do with it. For what it is worth - I would have asked the same question of our coaches. The NCAA can try and track me down and ask me questions. Good luck with that. Cats 2506 - you re just a dick. Period!! The discussion on my end is over and not another word will be typed on my end. You just could not let it go.

Pure gold.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

I don't remember saying this coach made him an official offer, so are you saying a coach can't discuss a kid when asked about him - when an offer is not even on the table yet? I broached the subject with the coach - not the other way around and why do you reference the Griz AD and program? You falsely assumed the coach I referenced was a Griz. Not the case and there are other BSC conference coaches who are in Montana and travel for certain events. Some of them are even nice people who carry on conversations and talk about football because they understand this is a small state and connections are very important. It is who you know frequently, not what you know. So you keep making your assumptions. Assume. Makes an ass out of you!!!

Correct. A coach can't discuss any PSA, regardless of if there is an offer out to him/her. An OC talking to a fan/booster about PSAs is an NCAA violation. You may want to email the coach and/or UM compliance so the rest of the coaches know that talking about PSAs to the general public is against NCAA recruiting policy.

At least there is one other poster here that knows something :thumb:

So what is it CG, is your original story BS (likely) or was that coach in violation ov the NCAA (unlikely)

I was trying to be respectful, but now you pissed me off. It is your teams coach you dumb ass. Nice guy and he obviously does not know the regs. Beers were involved, maybe that had something to do with it. For what it is worth - I would have asked the same question of our coaches. The NCAA can try and track me down and ask me questions. Good luck with that. Cats 2506 - you re just a dick. Period!! The discussion on my end is over and not another word will be typed on my end. You just could not let it go.

Oh, of course it was. Couldn't be that you're lying, could it? We'll have to ask Tim Cramsey about it, I guess. Or, you're just lying, which seems much more likely.

 

[putter]

I was in Metals Bar (after the state championship game) and someone asked his Dad if Dallas wanted to be a Griz. Dad laughed and said, no way. He was playing in a bigger program than Montana and was going out of state. Take that as arrogance or whatever but that is what he said.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

The coach that talked to Copper didn't do anything that violated any rules AT ALL. Fans and even boosters are allowed to talk to coaches about recruits and even contact the coaching staff to provide a lead on a kid. They just can't be involved in recruiting the kid. Boosters aren't allowed to talk to the kid, the kid's family, or the kid's coaches at all about recruitment.

 

[Cats2506]

I don't remember saying this coach made him an official offer, so are you saying a coach can't discuss a kid when asked about him - when an offer is not even on the table yet? I broached the subject with the coach - not the other way around and why do you reference the Griz AD and program? You falsely assumed the coach I referenced was a Griz. Not the case and there are other BSC conference coaches who are in Montana and travel for certain events. Some of them are even nice people who carry on conversations and talk about football because they understand this is a small state and connections are very important. It is who you know frequently, not what you know. So you keep making your assumptions. Assume. Makes an ass out of you!!!

Correct. A coach can't discuss any PSA, regardless of if there is an offer out to him/her. An OC talking to a fan/booster about PSAs is an NCAA violation. You may want to email the coach and/or UM compliance so the rest of the coaches know that talking about PSAs to the general public is against NCAA recruiting policy.

At least there is one other poster here that knows something :thumb:

So what is it CG, is your original story BS (likely) or was that coach in violation ov the NCAA (unlikely)

I was trying to be respectful, but now you pissed me off. It is your teams coach you dumb ass. Nice guy and he obviously does not know the regs. Beers were involved, maybe that had something to do with it. For what it is worth - I would have asked the same question of our coaches. The NCAA can try and track me down and ask me questions. Good luck with that. Cats 2506 - you re just a dick. Period!! The discussion on my end is over and not another word will be typed on my end. You just could not let it go.

:lol: :lol: Just like I thought, your story is bullshit :thumb:

What I really don't like is some douchebag poster making crap up and running down a kid they know nothing about. but then you are a fizz fan so its to be expected

 

[wbtfg]

I know a coach cant talk to the media about a recruit, im not sure if theres a rule about discussing with fans/boosters.
a fan can tell a coach about a player, but im not sure if coaches can engage in a discussion about a recruit.

 

[Cats2506]

The coach that talked to Copper didn't do anything that violated any rules AT ALL. Fans and even boosters are allowed to talk to coaches about recruits and even contact the coaching staff to provide a lead on a kid. They just can't be involved in recruiting the kid. Boosters aren't allowed to talk to the kid, the kid's family, or the kid's coaches at all about recruitment.

the problem is that this is a one way street, and copper was going the wrong way.

steep hill indeed

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

The coach that talked to Copper didn't do anything that violated any rules AT ALL. Fans and even boosters are allowed to talk to coaches about recruits and even contact the coaching staff to provide a lead on a kid. They just can't be involved in recruiting the kid. Boosters aren't allowed to talk to the kid, the kid's family, or the kid's coaches at all about recruitment.

the problem is that this is a one way street, and copper was going the wrong way.

steep hill indeed

Copper didn't violate any rules either.

 

[Cats2506]

The coach that talked to Copper didn't do anything that violated any rules AT ALL. Fans and even boosters are allowed to talk to coaches about recruits and even contact the coaching staff to provide a lead on a kid. They just can't be involved in recruiting the kid. Boosters aren't allowed to talk to the kid, the kid's family, or the kid's coaches at all about recruitment.

the problem is that this is a one way street, and copper was going the wrong way.

steep hill indeed

Copper didn't violate any rules either.

I didnt say he did, but asking a coach a question that he cant answer is a douchebag move any way you look at it

13.10.2 Comments Before Signing. Before the signing of a prospective student-athlete to a National
Letter of Intent or an institution’s written offer of admission and/or financial aid, a member institution may comment
publicly only to the extent of confirming its recruitment of the prospective student-athlete. The institution
may not comment generally about the prospective student-athlete’s ability or the contribution that the prospective
student-athlete might make to the institution’s team; further, the institution is precluded from commenting in any
manner as to the likelihood of the prospective student-athlete’s signing with that institution. [

and having douchebag fans like copper and you makes your AD's job a steep hill

 

[NorthwestFresh]

The coach that talked to Copper didn't do anything that violated any rules AT ALL. Fans and even boosters are allowed to talk to coaches about recruits and even contact the coaching staff to provide a lead on a kid. They just can't be involved in recruiting the kid. Boosters aren't allowed to talk to the kid, the kid's family, or the kid's coaches at all about recruitment.

Wrong.

No wonder UM is in such NCAA trouble. Who knows what kind of violations the previous staff committed.

A coach CANNOT talk to a booster/fan about any PSA, other than that they've given them an offer. I actually feel bad for Haslam, because the culture of non-compliance still seems rampant at UM and within the fanbase.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

The coach that talked to Copper didn't do anything that violated any rules AT ALL. Fans and even boosters are allowed to talk to coaches about recruits and even contact the coaching staff to provide a lead on a kid. They just can't be involved in recruiting the kid. Boosters aren't allowed to talk to the kid, the kid's family, or the kid's coaches at all about recruitment.

Wrong.

No wonder UM is in such NCAA trouble. Who knows what kind of violations the previous staff committed.

A coach CANNOT talk to a booster/fan about any PSA, other than that they've given them an offer. I actually feel bad for Haslam, because the culture of non-compliance still seems rampant at UM and within the fanbase.

Yes they can.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

cats2506, private conversation on the sideline isn't making a "public comment". Copper might be walking a tight line by posting the conversation on a message board, but I don't think that is considered a public comment by the coach.

If you want to have a discussion about what is considered a public comment, cool. If you want to name call under an anonymous name and be a tough guy, i'm not interested...

 

[NorthwestFresh]

cats2506, private conversation on the sideline isn't making a "public comment". Copper might be walking a tight line by posting the conversation on a message board, but I don't think that is considered a public comment by the coach.

If you want to have a discussion about what is considered a public comment, cool. If you want to name call under an anonymous name and be a tough guy, i'm not interested...

A year ago on this board, the compliance department at UM actually posted that coaches talking about PSAs to fans/boosters is an NCAA violation.

Will you people ever learn? Good God. Educate yourselves.

 

[George Ferguson]

Northwest...You are one hundred percent correct. Your scenario is EXACTLY like the one that took place earlier this year when a MSU Booster called Gunnar Brekke's HOUSE and asked if he was going to MSU over UM. The next thing you know..msusportsinfo posted a no-no warning on BN. So actually, I totally adhere to your knowledge from which you speak because this already happened to your favorite program.

Secondly, I'm quite certain Copper has written several times how he was NOT talking to a Grizzly coach.

And lastly, can we lock this thread? How is Papa G ever going to get any sleep after seeing this threa?. He will be up all night, for days, writing letters and e-mails to the NCAA about this gross violation! I think he just finally got some sleep from his last bout of arch-rival, compliance, tipster writing.

I kid Papa G of course. He is really the most in the know poster on either board (5-year postseason ban for the Griz forthecoming!) :clap:

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

cats2506, private conversation on the sideline isn't making a "public comment". Copper might be walking a tight line by posting the conversation on a message board, but I don't think that is considered a public comment by the coach.

If you want to have a discussion about what is considered a public comment, cool. If you want to name call under an anonymous name and be a tough guy, i'm not interested...

A year ago on this board, the compliance department at UM actually posted that coaches talking about PSAs to fans/boosters is an NCAA violation.

Will you people ever learn? Good God. Educate yourselves.

Show me the proof and the post and I'll admit I'm wrong. I don't think I am though. If I am, there are hundreds of recruiters out there that are violating this rule from many different programs.

I seem to remember a post commenting that a fan, if they have information on a recruit, can provide that information to the coaching staff, but not provide any information or contact the potential recruit at all.

... and Havre is right. Boosters/fans do violate NCAA rules if they contact the recruit themselves...