Montana NEEDS

[PlayerRep]

Montana needs No Alpha.

Montana needs to eliminate "fans" who root against UM, the coaches, and the players.

When Engstrom/UM goes to the Washington family and other big donors in the future (i.e. the ones who supported Hauck), to ask for $5 or $10 million, I wonder how Engstrom will be received? Engstrom just slit his throat with some of those donors.

 

[signedbewildered]

Montana needs No Alpha.

Montana needs to eliminate "fans" who root against UM, the coaches, and the players.

When Engstrom/UM goes to the Washington family and other big donors in the future (i.e. the ones who supported Hauck), to ask for $5 or $10 million, I wonder how Engstrom will be received? Engstrom just slit his throat with some of those donors.

Do you thing Engstrom gives a rats ass?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Montana needs No Alpha.

Montana needs to eliminate "fans" who root against UM, the coaches, and the players.

When Engstrom/UM goes to the Washington family and other big donors in the future (i.e. the ones who supported Hauck), to ask for $5 or $10 million, I wonder how Engstrom will be received? Engstrom just slit his throat with some of those donors.

PR, your argument in support of the boosters is what's wrong with college athletics.

 

[PlayerRep]

Montana needs No Alpha.

Montana needs to eliminate "fans" who root against UM, the coaches, and the players.

When Engstrom/UM goes to the Washington family and other big donors in the future (i.e. the ones who supported Hauck), to ask for $5 or $10 million, I wonder how Engstrom will be received? Engstrom just slit his throat with some of those donors.

Do you thing Engstrom gives a rats ass?

He probably doesn't care much about football, but he certainly cares about raising funds, especially big funds, for the academic side of the university. The new nursing school, the COT (Missoula College), etc.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Montana needs No Alpha.

Montana needs to eliminate "fans" who root against UM, the coaches, and the players.

When Engstrom/UM goes to the Washington family and other big donors in the future (i.e. the ones who supported Hauck), to ask for $5 or $10 million, I wonder how Engstrom will be received? Engstrom just slit his throat with some of those donors.

GOOD!

It's about damn time you jock sniffers and boosters have to start sucking the dick of an outsider!

There will always be other boosters and this is the second time Engstrom has done a GREAT thing. You disagreeing with it proves it was a good move.

 

[PlayerRep]

Alpha, I respect, and sometimes agree with a lot of your viewpoints on Griz football. Sometimes we need a dose of a different viewpoint and you certainly provide that, but the Washington statement is dumb in my opinion. THEY BUILT Wash-Griz, and EVERYONE associated with the program, including Dickinson and many others you and all of us revere, AGREE that Wash-Griz was the turning point and cornerstone of the success this program has had, and the program that you want it to be again. Ask Don Read what he thinks of the Washington's, ask DD what he thinks of the Washington family. WITHOUT the Washington family, I, and many others agree that you wouldn't have a Montana football to want back.

Sure. And Eastern Washington found success without a mega donor, or a decent stadium. Same for Villanova, same for Richmond. Youngstown' s stadium wasn't much when they were going to the championship game every year.

Winning trumps everything in FCS where things are done on the cheap.

If you're looking for applause, why don't you thank the troops, or bloviate about American greatness?

EWU has found success with low academic standards and good coaches. Richmond, and especially Villanova, have very good donors.

 

[PlayerRep]

Montana needs No Alpha.

Montana needs to eliminate "fans" who root against UM, the coaches, and the players.

When Engstrom/UM goes to the Washington family and other big donors in the future (i.e. the ones who supported Hauck), to ask for $5 or $10 million, I wonder how Engstrom will be received? Engstrom just slit his throat with some of those donors.

GOOD!

It's about damn time you jock sniffers and boosters have to start sucking the dick of an outsider!

There will always be other boosters and this is the second time Engstrom has done a GREAT thing. You disagreeing with it proves it was a good move.

Actually, Stitt is not an outsider to me. And, at UM, there are very very few big donors, for athletics or otherwise.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

Wait, what? Since when does not agreeing with EVERYTHING the coach / university / ad does/says/whatever equal not rooting for the players/team to succeed?

Big difference between rooting for players to fail and disagreeing with how things are run.

 

[Triwest]

I know that the majority of you idiots have incredible reading comprehension problems but seriously explain how you derived I want the past?

I want to purge the past, we know what he have with the people that have ran this program into a dumpster fire. I want new blood for the future but please explain how you got to your illogical conclusion. RMFE

A leader, coach, parent, demonstrate intangible qualities that raise those they work with and are around to higher levels. Just having knowledge and opinions is not enough (but is highly needed). Success in the past (or stating what I have done-not current) has less meaning than what I am doing right now and the plan I have. More and more today people and presentation skills are needed face to face and in all other forms of communication. Not just what is said but the delivery as to how it is said.

Don Read did not have the most impressive track record coming in 30 years ago. He had experience, and a plan for the team he was taking over. He developed a staff that led the team to places it had not been to. He did not do it solely by himself but it was his plan. The program does need to look at where it wants to go not just where it has been. This does not rule out people that have been part of the program in the past but at the same time should not rule out people who have not been part of the program. (Do not throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak).

The fan forums for the University of Montana can be very powerful and good. (For information and for entertainment). They allow people with various backgrounds and knowledge to post and express ideas. Many of the post present good information, opinion and thoughts (that can lead to positive brainstorming) only to be stopped dead by the poster lowering themselves to a middle school maturity level of name calling and put downs supported by their BUDDIES (some of the poster very well could be middle school students of course) instead of just sticking to their points and facts. Passion is fantastic, knowledge is incredible, raising others up not putting them down should be the goal.

 

[Copper Griz]

I know that the majority of you idiots have incredible reading comprehension problems but seriously explain how you derived I want the past?

I want to purge the past, we know what he have with the people that have ran this program into a dumpster fire. I want new blood for the future but please explain how you got to your illogical conclusion. RMFE

A leader, coach, parent, demonstrate intangible qualities that raise those they work with and are around to higher levels. Just having knowledge and opinions is not enough (but is highly needed). Success in the past (or stating what I have done-not current) has less meaning than what I am doing right now and the plan I have. More and more today people and presentation skills are needed face to face and in all other forms of communication. Not just what is said but the delivery as to how it is said.

Don Read did not have the most impressive track record coming in 30 years ago. He had experience, and a plan for the team he was taking over. He developed a staff that led the team to places it had not been to. He did not do it solely by himself but it was his plan. The program does need to look at where it wants to go not just where it has been. This does not rule out people that have been part of the program in the past but at the same time should not rule out people who have not been part of the program. (Do not throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak).

The fan forums for the University of Montana can be very powerful and good. (For information and for entertainment). They allow people with various backgrounds and knowledge to post and express ideas. Many of the post present good information, opinion and thoughts (that can lead to positive brainstorming) only to be stopped dead by the poster lowering themselves to a middle school maturity level of name calling and put downs supported by their BUDDIES (some of the poster very well could be middle school students of course) instead of just sticking to their points and facts. Passion is fantastic, knowledge is incredible, raising others up not putting them down should be the goal.

Oh great - there you go. Bringing logic and common sense onto the board. Agree with your perspective. Just not sure how powerful the forum can be. Pertaining to the coaching decision coming up - I don't think this forum has one grain of influence on the decision. Many on here would like to think it does, but NO - NO it does not.

 

[Triwest]

I know that the majority of you idiots have incredible reading comprehension problems but seriously explain how you derived I want the past?

I want to purge the past, we know what he have with the people that have ran this program into a dumpster fire. I want new blood for the future but please explain how you got to your illogical conclusion. RMFE

A leader, coach, parent, demonstrate intangible qualities that raise those they work with and are around to higher levels. Just having knowledge and opinions is not enough (but is highly needed). Success in the past (or stating what I have done-not current) has less meaning than what I am doing right now and the plan I have. More and more today people and presentation skills are needed face to face and in all other forms of communication. Not just what is said but the delivery as to how it is said.

Don Read did not have the most impressive track record coming in 30 years ago. He had experience, and a plan for the team he was taking over. He developed a staff that led the team to places it had not been to. He did not do it solely by himself but it was his plan. The program does need to look at where it wants to go not just where it has been. This does not rule out people that have been part of the program in the past but at the same time should not rule out people who have not been part of the program. (Do not throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak).

The fan forums for the University of Montana can be very powerful and good. (For information and for entertainment). They allow people with various backgrounds and knowledge to post and express ideas. Many of the post present good information, opinion and thoughts (that can lead to positive brainstorming) only to be stopped dead by the poster lowering themselves to a middle school maturity level of name calling and put downs supported by their BUDDIES (some of the poster very well could be middle school students of course) instead of just sticking to their points and facts. Passion is fantastic, knowledge is incredible, raising others up not putting them down should be the goal.

Oh great - there you go. Bringing logic and common sense onto the board. Agree with your perspective. Just not sure how powerful the forum can be. Pertaining to the coaching decision coming up - I don't think this forum has one grain of influence on the decision. Many on here would like to think it does, but NO - NO it does not.

Hey Copper, I agree totally that forums like this have no influence on decisions that run the program.

 

[Cringer]

Awesome Thread!

Montana needs to take steps in becoming an R1 University so we can be taken seriously as an academic institution.
Montana needs to get rid of its joke of a retention/graduation rates.
Montana needs to develop the Davidson Honors College to attract top tier students.
Montana needs to work on its acceptance policy, and have interventions in place to make sure students with learning deficiencies are successful.
Montana needs to renovate the Mansfield Library (if it has not already) for students who are there for more than Grizzly football.
Montana needs to get back to producing Rhodes Scholars which it has not done since around 1995.
Montana needs to figure out how to pay Professors for their production in scholarship if it hopes to attract and retain good Professors.
Montana needs to stop hiking up tuition every time head office fouls up the budget.

Once we take care of all of those important issues we can start looking at the superficial stuff Alpha posted.

 

[Dillon]

I know that the majority of you idiots have incredible reading comprehension problems but seriously explain how you derived I want the past?

I want to purge the past, we know what he have with the people that have ran this program into a dumpster fire. I want new blood for the future but please explain how you got to your illogical conclusion. RMFE

A leader, coach, parent, demonstrate intangible qualities that raise those they work with and are around to higher levels. Just having knowledge and opinions is not enough (but is highly needed). Success in the past (or stating what I have done-not current) has less meaning than what I am doing right now and the plan I have. More and more today people and presentation skills are needed face to face and in all other forms of communication. Not just what is said but the delivery as to how it is said.

Don Read did not have the most impressive track record coming in 30 years ago. He had experience, and a plan for the team he was taking over. He developed a staff that led the team to places it had not been to. He did not do it solely by himself but it was his plan. The program does need to look at where it wants to go not just where it has been. This does not rule out people that have been part of the program in the past but at the same time should not rule out people who have not been part of the program. (Do not throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak).

The fan forums for the University of Montana can be very powerful and good. (For information and for entertainment). They allow people with various backgrounds and knowledge to post and express ideas. Many of the post present good information, opinion and thoughts (that can lead to positive brainstorming) only to be stopped dead by the poster lowering themselves to a middle school maturity level of name calling and put downs supported by their BUDDIES (some of the poster very well could be middle school students of course) instead of just sticking to their points and facts. Passion is fantastic, knowledge is incredible, raising others up not putting them down should be the goal.

Here Here - Love the last sentence! Take Note Alphie!

 

[NLGrizFan]

No Jim Foley
No Jim O'Day
No Ty Gregorek
No Haucks
No Beau Baldwin
No Scott Gragg
No Chuck Maes
No fans like PlaYaRAPe
No boosters that try to call shots behind the scenes like the Washington's and others
No retread coach

We need new blood, a new way of thinking of things. Less nepotism and stagnate rehashed schemes.

Bring back Montana football

 

[kemajic]

Awesome Thread!

Montana needs to take steps in becoming an R1 University so we can be taken seriously as an academic institution.
Montana needs to get rid of its joke of a retention/graduation rates.
Montana needs to develop the Davidson Honors College to attract top tier students.
Montana needs to work on its acceptance policy, and have interventions in place to make sure students with learning deficiencies are successful.
Montana needs to renovate the Mansfield Library (if it has not already) for students who are there for more than Grizzly football.
Montana needs to get back to producing Rhodes Scholars which it has not done since around 1995.
Montana needs to figure out how to pay Professors for their production in scholarship if it hopes to attract and retain good Professors.
Montana needs to stop hiking up tuition every time head office fouls up the budget.

Once we take care of all of those important issues we can start looking at the superficial stuff Alpha posted.

Montana needs to break through the tenure system to clear out the many faculty members who have retired on the job, opening positions for new blood ready to contribute to today's needs.

 

[Catsrback76]

No Jim Foley
No Jim O'Day
No Ty Gregorek
No Haucks
No Beau Baldwin
No Scott Gragg
No Chuck Maes
No fans like PlaYaRAPe
No boosters that try to call shots behind the scenes like the Washington's and others
No retread coach

We need new blood, a new way of thinking of things. Less nepotism and stagnate rehashed schemes.

Bring back Montana football

Just popping in to see how "ELITE" programs handle these things...carry on!

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

We get medals.......can't you read?

 

[kurtismichael]

Awesome Thread!

Montana needs to take steps in becoming an R1 University so we can be taken seriously as an academic institution.
Montana needs to get rid of its joke of a retention/graduation rates.
Montana needs to develop the Davidson Honors College to attract top tier students.
Montana needs to work on its acceptance policy, and have interventions in place to make sure students with learning deficiencies are successful.
Montana needs to renovate the Mansfield Library (if it has not already) for students who are there for more than Grizzly football.
Montana needs to get back to producing Rhodes Scholars which it has not done since around 1995.
Montana needs to figure out how to pay Professors for their production in scholarship if it hopes to attract and retain good Professors.
Montana needs to stop hiking up tuition every time head office fouls up the budget.

Once we take care of all of those important issues we can start looking at the superficial stuff Alpha posted.

Montana will be producing a Rhodes Scholar and he just happens to be a Grizzly football player. Just FYI.

 

[grizpack]

Big difference in going to a FBS program like CSU or OSU that is going moderately in the right direction than to go to a dumpster fire like UNLV or Wyoming or Utah State were when our last coaches went there, or WSU when Wulff went there.

 

[grizpack]

Awesome Thread!

Montana needs to take steps in becoming an R1 University so we can be taken seriously as an academic institution.
Montana needs to get rid of its joke of a retention/graduation rates.
Montana needs to develop the Davidson Honors College to attract top tier students.
Montana needs to work on its acceptance policy, and have interventions in place to make sure students with learning deficiencies are successful.
Montana needs to renovate the Mansfield Library (if it has not already) for students who are there for more than Grizzly football.
Montana needs to get back to producing Rhodes Scholars which it has not done since around 1995.
Montana needs to figure out how to pay Professors for their production in scholarship if it hopes to attract and retain good Professors.
Montana needs to stop hiking up tuition every time head office fouls up the budget.

Once we take care of all of those important issues we can start looking at the superficial stuff Alpha posted.

Montana needs to break through the tenure system to clear out the many faculty members who have retired on the job, opening positions for new blood ready to contribute to today's needs.

Winner!!!!! :clap: :thumb: :clap: :thumb:

Another idea is to have the teachers teach more than 1 or 2 classes per semester. And the old argument that the rest of the time is spent researching or writing is complete bullshit. A few, maybe. Most just rehash the same subject with the same old outline. Keep the good ones. Pay them better. Require them to do a little more work. Cut the non-producers. Kind of like the actual real world.