While I appreciate locking threads taken over (or worse, started) by bub trolls and asshats, it's time to consider going a step further: Let's go all Tommy and take out the trash.
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- Start date
Am I starting with you, or .......?
If you mean by buying my first beer this weekend, then by all means.Am I starting with you, or .......?
I'm your huckleberry.
bobcatfan123
Well-known member
Thought doc says “I’ll be your huckle-bearer”, which is another term for pallbearer. Have I been getting that wrong?
No he doesn’t. Kilmer even addressed that rumor directly prior to passing. He says “I’m your huckleberry.”
Might be the wildest movie debate on earth.. several think pieces written on this topic and no one still knows. lol
Still Room, Friday night. You can be my +1.
Will this be after the GSA B&WF??
Also, before i commit, I'm concerned that as your plus one, my good looks may establish unattainable standards which you'll never be able to reach again. Will you be okay with that??
BelierPeaux
Well-known member
Like the team you chose to root for, and as others have stated, you are mistaken:
Huckleberry or Hucklebearer?
“I’m Your Huckleberry”—The Truth Behind Doc Holliday’s Famous Line
matthewkerns.substack.com
I got pretty into Western history for a couple of years, and ended up reading way more about Doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp than I ever planned to. There is room for discussion about what the real Doc Holliday said, though there is no debate that in the movie Val Kilmer said "Huckleberry." He has confirmed that many times, and the script is out there for public review. He also titled his own biography "I'm Your Huckleberry."
As for real life, there is room for debate partly because nobody is around to answer definitively. The "Huckle-Bearer" would be possible, yes, and Doc Holliday would have known the casket handle as a "huckle." That is true, and there is a possibility that is what Doc actually said back in the day, though I don't find it more likely.
There was a popular idiom from the South at the time that was "I'm your Huckleberry." It meant "I'm the man for the job" or "I'm up for it." That idiom is also the root of the name of Mark Twain's "Huckleberry Finn." Doc was the quintessential Southern Gentleman, or at least that is the image he chose to paint for the world, and carried many southern idioms and sayings with him. I'm off the opinion that the movie got it right, and that Doc likely said "Huckleberry."
What I love about Tombstone, overall, is just how awesomely faithful they were to the actual words that were said by the people involved, or as best they could be. It isn't the most accurate film in terms of historical narrative, but the dialogue is hands down the most accurate of any Western I know.
bobcatfan123
Well-known member
Awesome. Always enjoyed the movie but had no idea to the historical accuracy of the vernacular, thanks for sharing!
Only you (and your bub friend jim) would be too fucking stupid to get the joke.
Dear Elord,
The author Charles Portis would like a word.
The novel “True Grit” and the two movie scripts, that heavily relied upon the novel’s original work, are renowned for using the most accurate vocabulary of the south-central American diialect from the mid-18th century.
Everybody knows that.
Please just apologize and we will endeavor to persevere this egregious affront.
Your fee fees get hurt way to easy.
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I simply cannot justify or concede such an egregious affront to my honor. I'd say I would see you at high noon on Saturday to settle this with a duel, but I have plans at that time.
I have actually neither read the novel. I may need to do that!
C'mon guys - this is Cat Week. This is eGriz. Why are you engaged in a cerebral discussion?
