Missoulian to increase focus on MSU athletics, readers need to grow up

[mtgriz]

Putin was a Communist, not to mention a KGB agent and would like to return Russia to those days. I would say carrying out Putin's foreign policy objectives puts trump in the puppet category. :thumb: That said, I recognize this is the Griz football forum my political posts are at an end.

You have mastered the art of the timely exit, ala George Costanza!

 

[MikeyGriz]

MSU is Montana's largest university. It has 16k students. UM has 9k? That's not just an enrollment difference, it's an alumni difference as we wrap up a decade of MSU turning out substantially more graduates than UM.
The numbers don't support UM being The Team for Montana, not now, not 10 years from now as UM continues to shrink.

This is the end result of liberal 'progressives' at UM championing feminist studies, social justice, indian studies and a myriad of bs classes and degrees that have no bearing on the economic value of a degree (and being able to pay off student loans related to said 'degree'); i.e. a real job that can support an individual in the world. (other than learning to write grants to fund more progressive bs). Cue up the emotional thinkers to scream about this.

I will readily admit that I don't understand what Americans seem to mean by liberal. Traditionally, a liberal is someone who believes that the government that governs best governs least. No government funded insurance is a liberal idea, no farm subsidies is a liberal idea, no gun control is a liberal idea. The root word is liberty. When I was at the U of M in the mid 80's we couldn't even have kegs in our dorms, that is about as far from liberal as a school could be.

I graduated in '82. I don't know what dorm you were in. We had keggers on my floors (had to get permission first) and we even brewed beer in my room! I was in Knowles & Miller halls during my tender.

 

[EverettGriz]

Mods can we move this thread to the crap board where it belongs so the absolute nut jobs posting on here can tighten the strap on their tinfoil hats and continue spewing their whacked out political shit?


Thanks much.

 

[dbackjon]

MSU is Montana's largest university. It has 16k students. UM has 9k? That's not just an enrollment difference, it's an alumni difference as we wrap up a decade of MSU turning out substantially more graduates than UM.
The numbers don't support UM being The Team for Montana, not now, not 10 years from now as UM continues to shrink.

This is the end result of liberal 'progressives' at UM championing feminist studies, social justice, indian studies and a myriad of bs classes and degrees that have no bearing on the economic value of a degree (and being able to pay off student loans related to said 'degree'); i.e. a real job that can support an individual in the world. (other than learning to write grants to fund more progressive bs). Cue up the emotional thinkers to scream about this.

I will readily admit that I don't understand what Americans seem to mean by liberal. Traditionally, a liberal is someone who believes that the government that governs best governs least. No government funded insurance is a liberal idea, no farm subsidies is a liberal idea, no gun control is a liberal idea. The root word is liberty. When I was at the U of M in the mid 80's we couldn't even have kegs in our dorms, that is about as far from liberal as a school could be.

If you're genuinely confused, just substitute "Communist" for "liberal" in any American context and you'll be about 90% of the way to understanding. In the US, liberals want to control everything.

:lol:

 

[Proud Griz Man]

Now the Missoulian is tired of people complaining about the newspaper in Missoula giving equal or better coverage to that front porch, and tells readers to grow up and support MSU.

Who is in charge of PR at Missoulian ? This is a very strange strategy to increase readership.

 

[ChesterGriz]

This is the end result of liberal 'progressives' at UM championing feminist studies, social justice, indian studies and a myriad of bs classes and degrees that have no bearing on the economic value of a degree (and being able to pay off student loans related to said 'degree'); i.e. a real job that can support an individual in the world. (other than learning to write grants to fund more progressive bs). Cue up the emotional thinkers to scream about this.

I will readily admit that I don't understand what Americans seem to mean by liberal. Traditionally, a liberal is someone who believes that the government that governs best governs least. No government funded insurance is a liberal idea, no farm subsidies is a liberal idea, no gun control is a liberal idea. The root word is liberty. When I was at the U of M in the mid 80's we couldn't even have kegs in our dorms, that is about as far from liberal as a school could be.

If you're genuinely confused, just substitute "Communist" for "liberal" in any American context and you'll be about 90% of the way to understanding. In the US, liberals want to control everything.

I find your comment "substitute Communist for Liberal" more than a little ironic given our current "conservative" president is clearly a puppet of Putin. :roll:

Liar.

 

[SoldierGriz]

How about all you shitbags go post your political rants on twitter where it belongs.

 

[fanofzoo]

I will readily admit that I don't understand what Americans seem to mean by liberal. Traditionally, a liberal is someone who believes that the government that governs best governs least. No government funded insurance is a liberal idea, no farm subsidies is a liberal idea, no gun control is a liberal idea. The root word is liberty. When I was at the U of M in the mid 80's we couldn't even have kegs in our dorms, that is about as far from liberal as a school could be.

If you're genuinely confused, just substitute "Communist" for "liberal" in any American context and you'll be about 90% of the way to understanding. In the US, liberals want to control everything.

I find your comment "substitute Communist for Liberal" more than a little ironic given our current "conservative" president is clearly a puppet of Putin. :roll:

Liar.

Getting conned is hard to accept.

 

[SubGriz]

How about all you shitbags go post your political rants on twitter where it belongs.

Welcome to being part of the problem. Merry Christmas!

 

[Hoops watcher]

If you're genuinely confused, just substitute "Communist" for "liberal" in any American context and you'll be about 90% of the way to understanding. In the US, liberals want to control everything.

I find your comment "substitute Communist for Liberal" more than a little ironic given our current "conservative" president is clearly a puppet of Putin. :roll:

Liar.

Getting conned is hard to accept.

Try this on for size then from a hater of all pols of any stripe. The best thing for ol Vlad would for us to do something like, say, banning fracking resulting in huge price increases for his oil and at the pump for us. Wonder who wants to do that? I guess the conning is in the eye of the connee, eh? Sure pokes a hole in a certain narrative.

 

[fanofzoo]

I find your comment "substitute Communist for Liberal" more than a little ironic given our current "conservative" president is clearly a puppet of Putin. :roll:

Liar.

Getting conned is hard to accept.

Try this on for size then from a hater of all pols of any stripe. The best thing for ol Vlad would for us to do something like, say, banning fracking resulting in huge price increases for his oil and at the pump for us. Wonder who wants to do that? I guess the conning is in the eye of the connee, eh? Sure pokes a hole in a certain narrative.

Depends what niche you are in but right now I have to get ready for Sat game, GO GRIZ

 

[SubGriz]

Depends what niche you are in but right now I have to get ready for Sat game, GO GRIZ

How is that a niche? Russia is a huge producer of oil and natural gas, as are we; if we voluntarily increase the price or lower the production of American oil and gas, that's a win for Russia. You don't have to work in the energy industry to see that.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

MSU is Montana's largest university. It has 16k students. UM has 9k? That's not just an enrollment difference, it's an alumni difference as we wrap up a decade of MSU turning out substantially more graduates than UM.
The numbers don't support UM being The Team for Montana, not now, not 10 years from now as UM continues to shrink.

This is the end result of liberal 'progressives' at UM championing feminist studies, social justice, indian studies and a myriad of bs classes and degrees that have no bearing on the economic value of a degree (and being able to pay off student loans related to said 'degree'); i.e. a real job that can support an individual in the world. (other than learning to write grants to fund more progressive bs). Cue up the emotional thinkers to scream about this.

I will readily admit that I don't understand what Americans seem to mean by liberal. Traditionally, a liberal is someone who believes that the government that governs best governs least. No government funded insurance is a liberal idea, no farm subsidies is a liberal idea, no gun control is a liberal idea. The root word is liberty. When I was at the U of M in the mid 80's we couldn't even have kegs in our dorms, that is about as far from liberal as a school could be.

I graduated in '82. I don't know what dorm you were in. We had keggers on my floors (had to get permission first) and we even brewed beer in my room! I was in Knowles & Miller halls during my tender.

Liberal is not interchangeable with libertarian. In this highlighted phrase, Thoreau (Civil Disobedience), the man thought to have first uttered this thought, was actually drawing upon the writings of a piece published (12 years earlier) in the first edition of "United States Magazine and Democratic Review." Given that today's' democrats are considered "liberals", and that Thoreau was an early democrat plagiarist of others' writings, I can see how someone might be confused and think this phrase is what liberals, rather than libertarians, believe. When its actually to the contrary. Liberals believe they know what is best for everybody and thereby require a strong, over reaching government, whose primary function is to silence and punish those who do not believe as liberals believe. Libertarians essentially want government to leave them alone.

That said, why worry about what a dying medium plans to do?

 

[argh!]

Liberal is not interchangeable with libertarian. In this highlighted phrase, Thoreau (Civil Disobedience), the man thought to have first uttered this thought, was actually drawing upon the writings of a piece published (12 years earlier) in the first edition of "United States Magazine and Democratic Review." Given that today's' democrats are considered "liberals", and that Thoreau was an early democrat plagiarist of others' writings, I can see how someone might be confused and think this phrase is what liberals, rather than libertarians, believe. When its actually to the contrary. Liberals believe they know what is best for everybody and thereby require a strong, over reaching government, whose primary function is to silence and punish those who do not believe as liberals believe. Libertarians essentially want government to leave them alone.

That said, why worry about what a dying medium plans to do?

seems to me that you are the one who believes you know best, ergo your rant about... well, not griz football.

 

[CatGrad-UMGradStu]

How about all you shitbags go post your political rants on twitter where it belongs.

Although I don't enter into the conversations (I did spend 23 years of my life as a U.S. Army Infantry officer and recall those drill sergeants under my command asking trainees what political the present Commander in Chief was when explaining what political party they belong to...), I truly enjoy reading the intelligent discourse many of the rather knowledgeable posters enter into on this site. This school has in fact seen such noteable individuals as Mike Mansfield and Jim Messina (quite possibly the single most knowledgeable and powerful man in America?) as instructors and students.

Anyway, please allow them to continue for therein lies what is happening to the institution, by and large. A bunch of washed up lawyers and pseudo professors impressed with their arbitrary and capricious accomplishments 50 to 60 years attempting, albeit futily, to stay relevant and in today's conversations.

 

[jcu27]

There's 1 reason for higher enrollment at MSU. It's called engineering. Get with the program.

 

[kyle_sample]

MSU is Montana's largest university. It has 16k students. UM has 9k? That's not just an enrollment difference, it's an alumni difference as we wrap up a decade of MSU turning out substantially more graduates than UM.
The numbers don't support UM being The Team for Montana, not now, not 10 years from now as UM continues to shrink.

This is the end result of liberal 'progressives' at UM championing feminist studies, social justice, indian studies and a myriad of bs classes and degrees that have no bearing on the economic value of a degree (and being able to pay off student loans related to said 'degree'); i.e. a real job that can support an individual in the world. (other than learning to write grants to fund more progressive bs). Cue up the emotional thinkers to scream about this.

We get it you’re mad at the Missoulian. I have had my frustrations with them but I think you’re missing the issue with Lee Enterprises.

However, I do take issue with these small minded comments. I have “bs” degrees and do more than just fine economically. There is economic value in not being a sexist, racist or an overall d*ck but what do I know.

I also studied a liberal arts major and it's worked out for me. The company I work for hands good, high-paying jobs to tons on liberal arts majors -- a lot of them graduates of UM

 

[rocklobster]

Personally, I felt there was already too much coverage of MSU in the rag we call a newspaper. What are they going to do to give them more coverage, give them an insert like the Griz get for game day? Stupid Lee newspapers!

 

['68griz]

Personally, I felt there was already too much coverage of MSU in the rag we call a newspaper. What are they going to do to give them more coverage, give them an insert like the Griz get for game day? Stupid Lee newspapers!

I totally agree. And, although I usually like Bill Speltz, I thought his column about "hate" in the Griz-Cat rivalry was pure BS. He just doesn't understand what the rivalry is all about. I was born and raised in Cat country, in a UM family. Never once, for any reason, have I rooted for the Cats. I don't 'hate' them; I just am never on their side ... end of discussion.

 

[rocklobster]

Personally, I felt there was already too much coverage of MSU in the rag we call a newspaper. What are they going to do to give them more coverage, give them an insert like the Griz get for game day? Stupid Lee newspapers!

I totally agree. And, although I usually like Bill Speltz, I thought his column about "hate" in the Griz-Cat rivalry was pure BS. He just doesn't understand what the rivalry is all about. I was born and raised in Cat country, in a UM family. Never once, for any reason, have I rooted for the Cats. I don't 'hate' them; I just am never on their side ... end of discussion.

I didn’t hate Cat fans until I was born. In the womb, I didn’t mind them, but they bugged me! As a zygote, my brain hadn’t fully formed, but I figured they were a-holes, by the conversations that went on! Seriously though, when we went down to Bozeman for a game, I saw a Griz family get doused in beer-a Mom , a Dad, and three small kids! Culprits were laughing their drunken asses off! No class! I know it’s not every fan, but I’m not taking my 12 year old there. Actually felt more welcomed in Cheney!