McGhee out til October

[JSTGriz]

Ron Ash AKA: THE depth GOD...
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Colorado Mesa - W
SFA - L
ND - L
NAU - L
Weber - W
UC Davis - W
Northern Colorado - W
EWU - L
SUU - W
GRIZ - BIG FAT FUGGIN L

6-6

Fixed it for you!

 

[Griz1]

I wish McGhee good luck in coming back from his injury. It is a shame when anyone puts in all the time and effort to be his best and have something like this derail him.

Being able to come back and play immediately at the level you played prior to the injury can be a tough go also. I remember Brian Ah Yat took quite a few games after his leg injury to get back on top of his game.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Ron Ash will get his team ready to play.

He always does. Many think he doesn't have what it takes to be a successful Residential Account Manager, but his teams always close the sale.

I just love it when bobcat fans don't even know the name of their own head coach of their very own football team. :msugrad:

that has to be it. the damn "n" button is so far away from the "b" button there is no chance this was a typo. this guy clearly has no idea what the name of the head coach is. :thumb:

I know, right? How could he not know who the coach is?

 

[Griz2k]

I still don't understand how DM and a few others got hurt against SMU when the real body-bag game is this weekend against a hapless d-2 school. Please explain. Thanks! :thumb:

Ask a coach. That's where I heard it from. Injuries can happen in any game-at your level teams, playing up or playing down. What Coach Kramer said made sense to me, that when you play down players are less skilled and do stupid things that can cause injuries.

They were just blowing smoke at you. Injuries playing against bigger, faster and better teams increase the chance of injury. Of course, injuries can happen anytime in football, but the chances are greater in play-up games.

That is incorrect. Ask Delaney, or any other FCS coach. Or better yet, post some data to back up your claim.

I see. So Griz and cat players are more susceptible to injury from playing the likes of Colorado Mesa or MT Tech instead of say, Alabama or Florida State? Ya, that makes sense. And no, I don't have any "data" you seem to be after but I do have something you seem to be lacking......common sense.

 

[stubbins]

Cats could go 4-8 or 5-7 easily.

LOL! Care to place a wager in that? You guys will see soon enough how much quality depth we now have thanks to Ron Ash.

Name one thing Ron Ash has done for the Cats.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap:

well done

 

[bigsky33]

Ask a coach. That's where I heard it from. Injuries can happen in any game-at your level teams, playing up or playing down. What Coach Kramer said made sense to me, that when you play down players are less skilled and do stupid things that can cause injuries.

They were just blowing smoke at you. Injuries playing against bigger, faster and better teams increase the chance of injury. Of course, injuries can happen anytime in football, but the chances are greater in play-up games.

That is incorrect. Ask Delaney, or any other FCS coach. Or better yet, post some data to back up your claim.

My view comes from personal experience and observation as well as discussions with multiple Griz and other coaches and 2 UM AD's over the years. While everyone doesn't necessarily agree, it is common sense. If you play more games against bigger, stronger, faster and better players, you are more likely to be injured. They will run you over. They will catch you from behind. And they will catch you on the sideline and hit you hard, just like they caught and hit McGhee. Sure, you can get hurt playing against weaker teams and players, or walking down the street, but you are more likely to be hurt playing against better competition. Do you think an FCS wouldn't sustain more injuries playing in the NFL?

Why do you think little kids tackle football has rules relating to weight, such as backs can't be over a certain weight--or why do they have weight divisions?

Do you think MSU and UM could play in the SEC without suffering more injuries?

Player Rep. I disagree. I think it is common sense that when you play down you are playing against athletes that make more mistakes and lack proper technique that can lead to more opportunity for injuries. When you play up, these guys know how to play the game right. There is also not a lot of weight difference anymore between FBS and FCS. However as we both said injuries can happen in any game no matter what the level. The hit on McGhee was a clean hit yet he was injured. Would be interested to see stats on injuries on teams that play up vs. play down. I guess it may be something to take note of when your watching teams playing up or down. Interesting!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

They were just blowing smoke at you. Injuries playing against bigger, faster and better teams increase the chance of injury. Of course, injuries can happen anytime in football, but the chances are greater in play-up games.

That is incorrect. Ask Delaney, or any other FCS coach. Or better yet, post some data to back up your claim.

My view comes from personal experience and observation as well as discussions with multiple Griz and other coaches and 2 UM AD's over the years. While everyone doesn't necessarily agree, it is common sense. If you play more games against bigger, stronger, faster and better players, you are more likely to be injured. They will run you over. They will catch you from behind. And they will catch you on the sideline and hit you hard, just like they caught and hit McGhee. Sure, you can get hurt playing against weaker teams and players, or walking down the street, but you are more likely to be hurt playing against better competition. Do you think an FCS wouldn't sustain more injuries playing in the NFL?

Why do you think little kids tackle football has rules relating to weight, such as backs can't be over a certain weight--or why do they have weight divisions?

Do you think MSU and UM could play in the SEC without suffering more injuries?

Player Rep. I disagree. I think it is common sense that when you play down you are playing against athletes that make more mistakes and lack proper technique that can lead to more opportunity for injuries. When you play up, these guys know how to play the game right. There is also not a lot of weight difference anymore between FBS and FCS. However as we both said injuries can happen in any game no matter what the level. The hit on McGhee was a clean hit yet he was injured. Would be interested to see stats on injuries on teams that play up vs. play down. I guess it may be something to take note of when your watching teams playing up or down. Interesting!

I agree with Bigsky33 on this. If I got tackled by Jadeveon Clowney, I would stand less of a chance to get injured than if my 4-year old nephew tackled me. Clowney knows how to hit the right way, whereas my nephew is less skilled, and his technique is pure shit. He's a knee-blowing machine.

 

[bigsky33]

EGRIZ, where the smack and trash talk never ends! CDA you can make smack out of anything. Without stats we will never know! Like I said, will be interesting to watch out for that in the future.

 

[grizindabox]

The fewer scholarships, an increased lack of depth, players more likely to be tired, player more likely to get hurt...but my real take is it does not matter that much whether it is playing up, playing down, or playing a comparable team.

 

[PlayerRep]

They were just blowing smoke at you. Injuries playing against bigger, faster and better teams increase the chance of injury. Of course, injuries can happen anytime in football, but the chances are greater in play-up games.

That is incorrect. Ask Delaney, or any other FCS coach. Or better yet, post some data to back up your claim.

My view comes from personal experience and observation as well as discussions with multiple Griz and other coaches and 2 UM AD's over the years. While everyone doesn't necessarily agree, it is common sense. If you play more games against bigger, stronger, faster and better players, you are more likely to be injured. They will run you over. They will catch you from behind. And they will catch you on the sideline and hit you hard, just like they caught and hit McGhee. Sure, you can get hurt playing against weaker teams and players, or walking down the street, but you are more likely to be hurt playing against better competition. Do you think an FCS wouldn't sustain more injuries playing in the NFL?

Why do you think little kids tackle football has rules relating to weight, such as backs can't be over a certain weight--or why do they have weight divisions?

Do you think MSU and UM could play in the SEC without suffering more injuries?

Player Rep. I disagree. I think it is common sense that when you play down you are playing against athletes that make more mistakes and lack proper technique that can lead to more opportunity for injuries. When you play up, these guys know how to play the game right. There is also not a lot of weight difference anymore between FBS and FCS. However as we both said injuries can happen in any game no matter what the level. The hit on McGhee was a clean hit yet he was injured. Would be interested to see stats on injuries on teams that play up vs. play down. I guess it may be something to take note of when your watching teams playing up or down. Interesting!

And I disagree with you. Not many injuries occur in college because the player causing the injury doesn't know how to play the game. That's just plain dumb. The kids that play at Carroll know the game and technique just as well as the Griz and Cats. There is a big speed difference and significant weight difference between FCS and FBS. Please don't just pick out two teams, and show a comparison.

Tell me this, do you think MSU or UM would have more injuries playing in the SEC, or not? Yes or no.

 

[PlayerRep]

That is incorrect. Ask Delaney, or any other FCS coach. Or better yet, post some data to back up your claim.

My view comes from personal experience and observation as well as discussions with multiple Griz and other coaches and 2 UM AD's over the years. While everyone doesn't necessarily agree, it is common sense. If you play more games against bigger, stronger, faster and better players, you are more likely to be injured. They will run you over. They will catch you from behind. And they will catch you on the sideline and hit you hard, just like they caught and hit McGhee. Sure, you can get hurt playing against weaker teams and players, or walking down the street, but you are more likely to be hurt playing against better competition. Do you think an FCS wouldn't sustain more injuries playing in the NFL?

Why do you think little kids tackle football has rules relating to weight, such as backs can't be over a certain weight--or why do they have weight divisions?

Do you think MSU and UM could play in the SEC without suffering more injuries?

Player Rep. I disagree. I think it is common sense that when you play down you are playing against athletes that make more mistakes and lack proper technique that can lead to more opportunity for injuries. When you play up, these guys know how to play the game right. There is also not a lot of weight difference anymore between FBS and FCS. However as we both said injuries can happen in any game no matter what the level. The hit on McGhee was a clean hit yet he was injured. Would be interested to see stats on injuries on teams that play up vs. play down. I guess it may be something to take note of when your watching teams playing up or down. Interesting!

I agree with Bigsky33 on this. If I got tackled by Jadeveon Clowney, I would stand less of a chance to get injured than if my 4-year old nephew tackled me. Clowney knows how to hit the right way, whereas my nephew is less skilled, and his technique is pure shit. He's a knee-blowing machine.

If you got tackled by me, you wouldn't get up.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

EGRIZ, where the smack and trash talk never ends! CDA you can make smack out of anything. Without stats we will never know! Like I said, will be interesting to watch out for that in the future.

Wha . . . me!? I'm appalled. Here, I try to agree with your argument, and this is the thanks I get?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

My view comes from personal experience and observation as well as discussions with multiple Griz and other coaches and 2 UM AD's over the years. While everyone doesn't necessarily agree, it is common sense. If you play more games against bigger, stronger, faster and better players, you are more likely to be injured. They will run you over. They will catch you from behind. And they will catch you on the sideline and hit you hard, just like they caught and hit McGhee. Sure, you can get hurt playing against weaker teams and players, or walking down the street, but you are more likely to be hurt playing against better competition. Do you think an FCS wouldn't sustain more injuries playing in the NFL?

Why do you think little kids tackle football has rules relating to weight, such as backs can't be over a certain weight--or why do they have weight divisions?

Do you think MSU and UM could play in the SEC without suffering more injuries?

Player Rep. I disagree. I think it is common sense that when you play down you are playing against athletes that make more mistakes and lack proper technique that can lead to more opportunity for injuries. When you play up, these guys know how to play the game right. There is also not a lot of weight difference anymore between FBS and FCS. However as we both said injuries can happen in any game no matter what the level. The hit on McGhee was a clean hit yet he was injured. Would be interested to see stats on injuries on teams that play up vs. play down. I guess it may be something to take note of when your watching teams playing up or down. Interesting!

I agree with Bigsky33 on this. If I got tackled by Jadeveon Clowney, I would stand less of a chance to get injured than if my 4-year old nephew tackled me. Clowney knows how to hit the right way, whereas my nephew is less skilled, and his technique is pure shit. He's a knee-blowing machine.

If you got tackled by me, you wouldn't get up.

Whoa. Hey, I thought we had some aloha between us.

 

[PlayerRep]

Player Rep. I disagree. I think it is common sense that when you play down you are playing against athletes that make more mistakes and lack proper technique that can lead to more opportunity for injuries. When you play up, these guys know how to play the game right. There is also not a lot of weight difference anymore between FBS and FCS. However as we both said injuries can happen in any game no matter what the level. The hit on McGhee was a clean hit yet he was injured. Would be interested to see stats on injuries on teams that play up vs. play down. I guess it may be something to take note of when your watching teams playing up or down. Interesting!

I agree with Bigsky33 on this. If I got tackled by Jadeveon Clowney, I would stand less of a chance to get injured than if my 4-year old nephew tackled me. Clowney knows how to hit the right way, whereas my nephew is less skilled, and his technique is pure shit. He's a knee-blowing machine.

If you got tackled by me, you wouldn't get up.

Whoa. Hey, I thought we had some aloha between us.

It was a joke, but I've been lifting hard and am planning my rugby comeback. Can't wait to start hitting and tackling again. Now, we'd have to set up narrow cones, or I wouldn't be able to catch you.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I agree with Bigsky33 on this. If I got tackled by Jadeveon Clowney, I would stand less of a chance to get injured than if my 4-year old nephew tackled me. Clowney knows how to hit the right way, whereas my nephew is less skilled, and his technique is pure shit. He's a knee-blowing machine.

If you got tackled by me, you wouldn't get up.

Whoa. Hey, I thought we had some aloha between us.

It was a joke, but I've been lifting hard and am planning my rugby comeback. Can't wait to start hitting and tackling again. Now, we'd have to set up narrow cones, or I wouldn't be able to catch you.

:lol: Not sure, my 40 is probably a gentleman's 5.8.

 

[PlayerRep]

If you got tackled by me, you wouldn't get up.

Whoa. Hey, I thought we had some aloha between us.

It was a joke, but I've been lifting hard and am planning my rugby comeback. Can't wait to start hitting and tackling again. Now, we'd have to set up narrow cones, or I wouldn't be able to catch you.

:lol: Not sure, my 40 is probably a gentleman's 5.8.

Don't know my 40 time now, because I'm only up to 30.

 

[kemajic]

I'd suggest the probability of McGhee getting hurt against NDSU was higher than with SMU. He got smacked around pretty good the last time they played the Bison.

 

[Copper Griz]

That is incorrect. Ask Delaney, or any other FCS coach. Or better yet, post some data to back up your claim.

My view comes from personal experience and observation as well as discussions with multiple Griz and other coaches and 2 UM AD's over the years. While everyone doesn't necessarily agree, it is common sense. If you play more games against bigger, stronger, faster and better players, you are more likely to be injured. They will run you over. They will catch you from behind. And they will catch you on the sideline and hit you hard, just like they caught and hit McGhee. Sure, you can get hurt playing against weaker teams and players, or walking down the street, but you are more likely to be hurt playing against better competition. Do you think an FCS wouldn't sustain more injuries playing in the NFL?

Why do you think little kids tackle football has rules relating to weight, such as backs can't be over a certain weight--or why do they have weight divisions?

Do you think MSU and UM could play in the SEC without suffering more injuries?

Player Rep. I disagree. I think it is common sense that when you play down you are playing against athletes that make more mistakes and lack proper technique that can lead to more opportunity for injuries. When you play up, these guys know how to play the game right. There is also not a lot of weight difference anymore between FBS and FCS. However as we both said injuries can happen in any game no matter what the level. The hit on McGhee was a clean hit yet he was injured. Would be interested to see stats on injuries on teams that play up vs. play down. I guess it may be something to take note of when your watching teams playing up or down. Interesting!

I agree with Bigsky33 on this. If I got tackled by Jadeveon Clowney, I would stand less of a chance to get injured than if my 4-year old nephew tackled me. Clowney knows how to hit the right way, whereas my nephew is less skilled, and his technique is pure shit. He's a knee-blowing machine.

This is hilarious!! BTW - technically you just agreed with 33. I am marking this down on my calendar. I don't give a crap that you were being sarcastic. I am counting it.

 

[Copper Griz]

I'd suggest the probability of McGhee getting hurt against NDSU was higher than with SMU. He got smacked around pretty good the last time they played the Bison.

This!! Watching the Bison play Kansas St. - I think you are standing on very firm ground with your argument. Speed, strength and ferocity. SMU, not so much.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

My 2 cents on the injury argument. Football, regardless of who you play, you are going to be performing many of the same actions with many of the same injury hazards. Therefore, your chances of getting injured against SMU vs. let's say an ISU, probably isn't that much higher. Saying that, if you are playing a team that is superior to you physically and is overwhelming you there is a higher chance of injury. For example, if a DT is getting physically beat on all game long and is getting worn down, his chances of getting injured increase.