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UncleRico said:
Ihatelife said:
If you enjoy making statements you should expand your ability to explain them. Makes for better conversations.

134-84 as a head coach. A defensive coordinator that won a national championship at Colorado, played years in the NFL and then coached in the NFL. Tim Hauck played in NFL and won a Super Bowl as a coach. An offensive coordinator that was a coordinator in the SEC. Look at resumes of guys coaching at every position. Yep zero coaching ability. They just miraculously were given those positions and won those titles. The last couple years haven’t met expectations but to say these guys don’t have the resumes to be coaching at an FCS school is pretty ignorant . And to think they aren’t capable of making adjustments and rallying this team is also ignorant. So yea I get what Spanky is saying.

Resumes do not equal considerable abilities.

Considerable abilities equal results.

Let's see if they can meet their stated goals for the team.
 
Spanky2 said:
Ihatelife said:
If you enjoy making statements you should expand your ability to explain them. Makes for better conversations.
Maybe, but soldier is a smart guy.

Thanks! I was actually just hoping for an insult-free discussion.

Some impressive resumes on the staff for sure. But, do they translate?

It's an open question IMO.
 
SoldierGriz said:
UncleRico said:
134-84 as a head coach. A defensive coordinator that won a national championship at Colorado, played years in the NFL and then coached in the NFL. Tim Hauck played in NFL and won a Super Bowl as a coach. An offensive coordinator that was a coordinator in the SEC. Look at resumes of guys coaching at every position. Yep zero coaching ability. They just miraculously were given those positions and won those titles. The last couple years haven’t met expectations but to say these guys don’t have the resumes to be coaching at an FCS school is pretty ignorant . And to think they aren’t capable of making adjustments and rallying this team is also ignorant. So yea I get what Spanky is saying.

Resumes do not equal considerable abilities.

Considerable abilities equal results.

Let's see if they can meet their stated goals for the team.

Coach resumes are a very good indicator of abilities.

The Griz may have reached their stated goals twice in over 4 decades. Reaching very high aspirational goals is not what I view as being necessary for a successful season.

Again, he did your-our US military do in achieving its goals in Afghanistan?
 
grizghost said:
UncleRico said:
134-84 as a head coach. A defensive coordinator that won a national championship at Colorado, played years in the NFL and then coached in the NFL. Tim Hauck played in NFL and won a Super Bowl as a coach. An offensive coordinator that was a coordinator in the SEC. Look at resumes of guys coaching at every position. Yep zero coaching ability. They just miraculously were given those positions and won those titles. The last couple years haven’t met expectations but to say these guys don’t have the resumes to be coaching at an FCS school is pretty ignorant . And to think they aren’t capable of making adjustments and rallying this team is also ignorant. So yea I get what Spanky is saying.

....all great resumes but irrelevant in todays coaching style....outdated in recruiting caliber players and knowing
what todays players are looking for...simply put they don't want to play for a bunch of old man F....them out ...
Hauck stated he doesn't want superstars just team players that's fine but that turns off young guys who all
think they are superstars...times have changed unfortunately ...UM needs to find a young innovative coach
( role model type) who can rally these young guys...not my way or the highway type..

...look at the NFL mostly all young coaches because the old guys couldn't adapt...some old coaches can adapt
but will have younger innovative guys under them ...thats not Hauck style... it is what it is adapt or became
irrelevant in todays world!
The best coach in NFL is Andy Reed and it isn't even close to number 2. The best coach in FBS is Nick Saban. I think Bobby and his crew have their backs against the wall for sure. But the Griz hiring and firing guys on a regular basis make the possibility of the Griz becoming Nebraska of FCS . It becomes an unattractive job. I don't think people realize how low the pay is for coaching staff in comparison to other programs. Where did Hauck say he doesn't want superstars? Where do you find these magical innovative young coaches you speak of? Remember the last "innovative" guy at UM? The idea that these guys can't coach I think is wrong and very simplistic in my opinion. Do I think they should bring in more young coaches? yes. But do you want a whole staff of unproven guys that don't realize the expectations of coaching here? Just about anywhere else in FCS if you were 4-1 the supporters would be happy. Here there are people calling for your head mid season. You going to put that on some 32 year old "whiz kid?" Would he bring his family to Missoula? You can bring in innovation but you better also bring in someone thick skinned that beats the Cats right away or their ass in the same boat as this staff right away.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Copper Griz said:
All good points. Riddle me this. With that type of coaching experience and those resumes, why wouldn’t one of them convince the head coach that their defensive scheme is never going to win a national title against the likes of the Dakota teams and MSU. Power run games tear through a defensive picket fence with players weighing under 280 and consistently under 260. U of M has not proven they can stop a run team. Just haven’t proved it and I don’t see it happening this year. With all that coaching experience you would think it is obvious and they would have worked to shore up this deficits in the off season. Baffling to me.

A number of good teams use the 3-3-5. See TCU. Changing the whole to try to help beat a few top teams at he expense of having a D to help against the bulk of your schedule isn’t necessary, in my view. UM clobbered MSU in 2021. They had good running. UM has lost to NDSU and MSU in recent years. Was JMU a heavy running team? The Griz run D is usually very good in most seasons. NDSU had a bunch of long runs last year. I didn’t go back to see what caused or allowed those.

Not all of the Griz coaches love the 3-3-5.

My view is that executing well is the most important part.

I suppose another question would be why don’t we have a heavy run game with less passing if most of the top several teams do.

I talked to a ST player after practice yesterday. He said he loved Bobby and he was a great coach, the best he had ever had. I suppose he hasn’t had many, but his dad has been the ST coach of the Jets for 8 years. This anecdote is not intended to address the main subject of this discussion.

You have a bus (team)

Your have a driver(coach)
You have people in the seats (players)

The question is the bus going in the right direction?
No. Fire the driver
Yes, does he have a full bus of people?
No. Fire the driver
Yes. Are they in the right seats
No. Fire the Driver
Yes, are they getting to their destination?
No. Fire the driver
Yes. Celebrate, extend his contract and give him a raise.


The driver is responsible for every part of the bus.
 
SoldierGriz said:
UncleRico said:
134-84 as a head coach. A defensive coordinator that won a national championship at Colorado, played years in the NFL and then coached in the NFL. Tim Hauck played in NFL and won a Super Bowl as a coach. An offensive coordinator that was a coordinator in the SEC. Look at resumes of guys coaching at every position. Yep zero coaching ability. They just miraculously were given those positions and won those titles. The last couple years haven’t met expectations but to say these guys don’t have the resumes to be coaching at an FCS school is pretty ignorant . And to think they aren’t capable of making adjustments and rallying this team is also ignorant. So yea I get what Spanky is saying.

Resumes do not equal considerable abilities.

Considerable abilities equal results.

Let's see if they can meet their stated goals for the team.

Resumes mean you have done it. And if you have done it there is a good chance you can do it again. But nothing is a given. Who would you want to replace this staff? Would you want someone with a solid resume? These can coach. And I think they will show it this weekend.
 
rgrizfan said:
Anybody know anything about Mayginnes?

How dare you bring up the subject of Mayginnes on a thread entitled 'Mayginnes.' Who the hell do you think you are, Whippersnapper? Besides, I already brought up the subject with 'The Mods' who slammed the door in my face (Titleist). I'm just a grumpy old fart, with the same question, that thinks the established rules should be followed. This ain't the only thread poisoned by this continual pissin' match. :roll:
 
3-7-77 said:
rgrizfan said:
Anybody know anything about Mayginnes?

How dare you bring up the subject of Mayginnes on a thread entitled 'Mayginnes.' Who the hell do you think you are, Whippersnapper? Besides, I already brought up the subject with 'The Mods' who slammed the door in my face (Titleist). I'm just a grumpy old fart, with the same question, that thinks the established rules should be followed. This ain't the only thread poisoned by this continual pissin' match. :roll:

Why doesn’t that poster read the thread? Isn’t his question answered?
 
mthoopsfan said:
3-7-77 said:
How dare you bring up the subject of Mayginnes on a thread entitled 'Mayginnes.' Who the hell do you think you are, Whippersnapper? Besides, I already brought up the subject with 'The Mods' who slammed the door in my face (Titleist). I'm just a grumpy old fart, with the same question, that thinks the established rules should be followed. This ain't the only thread poisoned by this continual pissin' match. :roll:

Why doesn’t that poster read the thread? Isn’t his question answered?
Crickets, and conjecture. Bobby dodged the question, artfully, at the post-game presser. He's good. Something like, 'X started at left tackle....I mean left guard.' A non-answer answer.
 
There are several people on this board that seem to want our team to have a bad season. Why is that? Is it so they can demand our coach be fired? Or is it so they can say I told you so, we are terrible? Why can’t they support the Griz until the end of the season? They might be surprised….the team may win most of the remaining games, beat state college and make the playoffs. They could lose a couple games along the way. So what? Football is a competitive sport, thus, you don’t always win. At the end of the year, if Haslam fires the entire coaching staff who will be their replacements? Maybe another offensive genius? Wonderful!
 
rgrizfan said:
Anybody know anything about Mayginnes?


Let's finish this thread.

Mayginnes just didn't bother showing up to the game. He practiced all week and was a no-show. No lie. Germer was losing his mind outside the locker room. I figured Hoops knew and said something considering he's so close and Bobby tells him everything.
 
3-7-77 said:
mthoopsfan said:
Why doesn’t that poster read the thread? Isn’t his question answered?
Crickets, and conjecture. Bobby dodged the question, artfully, at the post-game presser. He's good. Something like, 'X started at left tackle....I mean left guard.' A non-answer answer.

Honestly though in the big picture do we care what he says at press conferences? If I was a parent of a player I would appreciate that he doesn’t give out personal details at press conferences. If he was in the dog house you don’t have to double down and make it public. But Bobby does have a way of coming off as a dick even if his intentions were not to.
 
mthoopsfan said:
3-7-77 said:
How dare you bring up the subject of Mayginnes on a thread entitled 'Mayginnes.' Who the hell do you think you are, Whippersnapper? Besides, I already brought up the subject with 'The Mods' who slammed the door in my face (Titleist). I'm just a grumpy old fart, with the same question, that thinks the established rules should be followed. This ain't the only thread poisoned by this continual pissin' match. :roll:

Why doesn’t that poster read the thread? Isn’t his question answered?
Sorry, with all of your non-related posts, I missed your single post about him practicing. Thanks
 
hubcap said:
rgrizfan said:
Anybody know anything about Mayginnes?


Let's finish this thread.

Mayginnes just didn't bother showing up to the game. He practiced all week and was a no-show. No lie. Germer was losing his mind outside the locker room. I figured Hoops knew and said something considering he's so close and Bobby tells him everything.

He didn’t show up for the game? You mean physically didn’t come to game? Jesus man that is bad
 
If this is true, it's like him saying, " You don't run the show, I DO!!!"
This stuff about a parent could be upset if the public was told he was benched is laughable. He's 22 or 23 years old! He don't need a babysitter or someone to hold his hand.
IF he just decided to not show up, he should be history, not at practice on Monday, and his dorm room vacant. The tail don't wag the dog. This ain't WAAC. That's 200 miles to the east. I'll be consistent with my view on MSdUi, sh*tcan him, or suspend for an appropriate period of time.

Not show up for the game. Christ!
 
If someone actually said something definitive about Mayginnes, how would you know it was even true? It’s eGriz for god sakes, not Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes.
 
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