SinCityGriz2005
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Yes HHB does. I have him blocked. It' took almost 2 decades but I finally couldn't take it any longer.
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LivingstonNative
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Sounds like they are getting more FBS transfers than the GRIZ. I hope we don’t schedule them for a football game. LOL
I think that’s probably best case scenario but never know. People surprise all of the time but wouldn’t assume he’s a starter. He’s probably rotating in on 1st and 2nd down obvious run plays then some goal line and third and short is my guess.
I think Buffington and Keim could have huge summers and be something there too.
I like Buffington and Keim too. Keim has the potential to be a monster for us. Hopefully they put on some weight this summer.
oldngrizzly
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i do see that most all agree that hhb is an asshole.feel free to step up and join him
oldngrizzly
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omg no-that should never happen. those teams are simply not good enough to play the goat according to some egriz
Ya gotta look at the big picture, no pun intended. Think of the trade-in value possibilities. We could get two 170# DBs or WRs, perhaps mix or match, for this guy. I think I saw him driving down the Northwest Bypass the other day. His pickup had a 'WIDE LOAD' banner on the front and back.
I saw him on a televised game last fall. I recall he was the left side of the defensive line. Made quite an impression on me, as well as the offensive line. I don't remember who they were playing, just this huge guy plowing through the offense.
I think Jerome coached him up, and he's ready for the Big Sky.
I saw him on a televised game last fall. I recall he was the left side of the defensive line. Made quite an impression on me, as well as the offensive line. I don't remember who they were playing, just this huge guy plowing through the offense.
I think Jerome coached him up, and he's ready for the Big Sky.
I have watched Idaho State play Western Montana in a pre-season game at Holt, in the early 2000s. WMC held their own for about three quarters, but ran out of gas in the fourth. Depth, or lack thereof. I wouldn't short change the NAIA.
No offense intended to you, but are you talking basketball? NAIA vs Big Sky football is a whole different animal. It is a lot easier to get upsets in Basketball.
Unfortunately, I put myself through a deep dive on this when this came up a year or so ago. It is so incredibly rare for an NAIA to be competitive at all with a Big Sky team that it is not even worth looking for. It is rare for them to even be competitive with Central Washington and other good D2 schools.
To use the example of Idaho State vs Montana Western, Western is 0-5 all time in the matchup. The combined score is 218 to 30, with two shutouts. The closest game was in 2010, where Western lost 32-3 and Idaho State played a lot of backups.
I would agree with you from a historical basis, with one caveat. Most of these games took place decades ago, I.e. the last game with ISU/Western was in 2010.
Because of massive changes in the recruiting landscape, the rosters for schools like Tech, Western, etc. are dramatically different than they were back then. It's not uncommon for schools like that to have FCS and even FBS transfers, and that would have rarely happened 15-20 years ago. With that, it's really hard to make and apples-apples comparison to today's programs.
These games won't be scheduled in the foreseeable future due to a number of factors, mostly monetary, so it's a moot point.
SinCityGriz2005
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Tongans are a special kind of strong and tough.
While I am with you on part of that, especially that those games are incredibly rare to even happen now so it is a moot point, I do enjoy the thought experiment.
I think having NAIA players from the FCS/FBS back 15 years ago was actually very common because it was so easy to transfer down. Specifically at Western I remember a time when there were two Griz dropdowns (QB, LB), and two FBS dropdowns (One LB from Utah State and the other was a WR or DB from San Jose). They also had at least two players I know of who held offers at strong schools (Washington and Montana) before injuries in high school led to them not getting a scholarship spot. And that is just in one year off the top of my head, I didn't follow their team closely enough to know where every player had come from. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were Hawaii dropdowns at that time.
So my only contention is that there were always a surprising number of dropdowns to the NAIA level, but they were often guys who either couldn't play at the higher levels or had some personal issues or drug testing issues that led to them dropping down to the NAIA level.
The issue is the depth. Having a couple of good LBs doesn't matter much against an offensive line of all Griz-level players. Having one fast DB just isn't enough to overcome the rest of the speed disadvantage. While you're right that it is a moot point, I'd bet the point spreads would be pretty similar.
Western's new field is pretty sick, though.
Football. No offense taken. The football landscape has changed dramatically. I rely only on memory. My point was to take them for granted as an easy win would be foolish.
Ah. To be honest, I just had a totally blank moment in the old brain. For some reason I confused where they play basketball with Holt Arena, and didn't realize it was football. You may want to go back and check those scores. In the 03 game, Western was down 40-14 at the half.
No offense intended, I've enjoyed some talks with you, I just don't see any historical or modern evidence that those games would be close in any way. A team like the Griz could start the backups and not have a competitive game.
During my time down there, they played basketball in both Holt and that high school caliber gym. Holt had the disadvantage of having to remove the court in time for the Simplot Games in late winter. https://simplotgames.com/
Thanks for the score update. Like I said, I rely on my memory, and it is, well....
Thanks for the score update. Like I said, I rely on my memory, and it is, well....
Mine isn't great either, must be the concussions. Haha.
That is quite the transition! I am glad I wasn't totally crazy that basketball was once played in Holt Arena, but truly it was just me being a bit of a dumbass on thinking you meant basketball.
oldngrizzly
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Elrod continues to beat this drum that the NAIA football can not win against the Griz yet he has been shown time and again over the last couple years that maybe they could not win but that they could be competitive. Winning is not everything for all of us, well except for Elrod. Can you imagine the amount of Montana fans that would come to a game against two Montana teams, one being NAIA. Great for the state and for the Montana players as well.
