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Locker room fundraising

EverettGriz said:
Yes. The GSA matched funds specially donated to fund the AC. Why is this a difficult concept? The AC is much less expensive a project, easier to complete, and some donors felt it a priority over a weight room.


And no, using my logic academic centers would get priority over athletic spending. In order for your statement to be correct, it would have to be fact that the weight room was never going to get funded. An argument so ridiculous not even you could make it.

Now, admit I was right or just admit you're a pathetic troll.
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Okay, this was finally a small start at answering the question.

Let me rephrase, why did the university (and its fundraisers) make the academic center a higher priority than the weight/locker rooms?

I see that you admitted that a good chunk of the funds were not earmarked for the academic center.
 
I just answered that: UM viewed it more important, easier to fund, more central to the university's mission, cheaper to build, quicker to get shovels in the ground, quicker to completion and they had donors who wanted to fund it and not the weight room. I cannot speak to why donors preferred to fund it over the weight room.

And no, I didn't say that. The money used to find the AC was for the AC.
 
The academic center was higher priority over new weight rooms and locker rooms for one reason and one reason only...public perception.

UM wanted to paint the picture that academics are the most important thing and that athletics was/is a distant second.

I am not saying that the AC was not needed, but UM had a definite message they were sending to the public.
 
grizindabox said:
The academic center was higher priority over new weight rooms and locker rooms for one reason and one reason only...public perception.

UM wanted to paint the picture that academics are the most important thing and that athletics was/is a distant second.

I am not saying that the AC was not needed, but UM had a definite message they were sending to the public.
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We have a winner! Lower cost, better public relations.
 
grizatwork said:
grizindabox said:
The academic center was higher priority over new weight rooms and locker rooms for one reason and one reason only...public perception.

UM wanted to paint the picture that academics are the most important thing and that athletics was/is a distant second.

I am not saying that the AC was not needed, but UM had a definite message they were sending to the public.
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We have a winner! Lower cost, better public relations.
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So you agree?
 
EverettGriz said:
I just answered that: UM viewed it more important, easier to fund, more central to the university's mission, cheaper to build, quicker to get shovels in the ground, quicker to completion and they had donors who wanted to fund it and not the weight room. I cannot speak to why donors preferred to fund it over the weight room.

And no, I didn't say that. The money used to find the AC was for the AC.
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UM? You mean Engstrom, right? Neither the coaches nor the athletic department viewed this project as a higher priority than the weight/locker rooms. Engstrom would approve the other projects, without doing this one first.

Not one dollar of the million or so of the GSA funds was "earmarked" for the academic center. Jeez, it's even possible to determine whose dollar GSA funds are, is it? It comes from the large GSA account.

Because much of the money for this project came from the "facilities" fund, it was not "earmarked" for this particular project.

If you have specific and credible information to the contrary, feel free to provide it.
 
I just don't know where to start.

Yes, I suppose you could substitute "Engstrom" with UM. He is the president. But as others have pointed out, you could probably substitute "public" or "state" just as easily. Last time I checked, coaches don't singly make decisions as to what building projects take precedence. Nor should they for a public university.

As for the GSA matching contributions, no, those were probably not given directly to support the AC. But the GSA, who can use their funds anyway they wish as a separate entity, chose to use their funds to match donations made directly to the completion of the Academic Center. Seems as though someone in the department values the idea.
 
Doesn't UM have to build the Academic Center so that they can take the current academic space and use it to build the new locker room area?
 
MrTitleist said:
Doesn't UM have to build the Academic Center so that they can take the current academic space and use it to build the new locker room area?
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While not true under the current plan (note that the plans have changed multiple times), one of the reasons that the academic center first came up as a separate project is because this was true under one or more prior plans.
 
EverettGriz said:
I just don't know where to start.

Yes, I suppose you could substitute "Engstrom" with UM. He is the president. But as others have pointed out, you could probably substitute "public" or "state" just as easily. Last time I checked, coaches don't singly make decisions as to what building projects take precedence. Nor should they for a public university.

As for the GSA matching contributions, no, those were probably not given directly to support the AC. But the GSA, who can use their funds anyway they wish as a separate entity, chose to use their funds to match donations made directly to the completion of the Academic Center. Seems as though someone in the department values the idea.
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Now, we're making a bit of progress. Yes, Engstrom is the president and yes he made this decision. Note the president doesn't make every decision for the university or athletic department. Some decisions are made by administrators below the president. You must know that.

Pretty much agree with what you just said regarding the GSA.
 
I think it's a shame a football only facility can't be constructed behind and connected to the SEZ. That parking could go away, and a tunnell from the building to the field could be constructed through the bowels of the SEZ. That would be a sweet edition to not only Wash-Griz but the entire campus. Make it three or four stories with the Griz' lockerooms, weight rooms, training rooms and coaches offices. You could probably put a lockerroom in it for the officials as well. Obviously, the cost on something like that is high, but I'm not talking Oregon Ducks money.
 
havgrizfan, it sounds like you are suggesting something like I proposed that UM do. A similar facility to what USU did. I brought it up in the other lockerroom thread.

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havgrizfan said:
I think it's a shame a football only facility can't be constructed behind and connected to the SEZ. That parking could go away, and a tunnell from the building to the field could be constructed through the bowels of the SEZ. That would be a sweet edition to not only Wash-Griz but the entire campus. Make it three or four stories with the Griz' lockerooms, weight rooms, training rooms and coaches offices. You could probably put a lockerroom in it for the officials as well. Obviously, the cost on something like that is high, but I'm not talking Oregon Ducks money.
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How much do you think it would cost to bore a hole under the SEZ to the field. That alone would blow the budget out of the water.
 
Hammer, I have no idea, I'm guessing you do. Ok, well that doesn't stop me from thinking ONE football facility is still a great idea. Fine, the players can exit the lockerrooms and make their way outside to the existing tunnel. That's not that big of a deal.
 
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