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By the way, I am relieved and happy our defense has been great enough to get us through these last few games. Wins are always good, no matter how they are accomplished.
 
mtgrizrule said:
PlayerRep said:
gotgame75 said:
PlayerRep said:
Get a grip. You were once a low level high school coach, and apparently not even that now. Please stop with your nonsense.

Get a grip?! Are you serious? I take it you're satisfied with our offensive performance then? Personally, I'd like to think our coaches would do whatever it takes to get our offense together. Right now, we have no offensive identity and have shown absolutely zero ability to adapt or adjust to tough defenses. Yes, we won today, but if we keep performing like we did today it will undoubtedly lead to losses down the road.

No, not satisfied at all. The offense is not good, especially the o-line. But I don't like people who don't know what they're talking about, complaining about Delaney, the offense and the team. Today, the Griz had 7 predicted preseason starters on the offense not even on the trip, plus the punter. That doesn't include Harper. The Griz played without their star quarterback for more than half of the game. The defense was absolutely outstanding. Great stops, turnovers and a blocked FG. It was a great team win. Why is it so hard to appreciate a very nice team win?

Each game is a new one. The team and coaches have to figure out how to win each game. They are working hard. They are fighters. I'm proud of the team. Why is it so hard to appreciate and support the team?

The EWU and Cat defenses absolutely suck. Even the Griz O should be able to roll on them. Maybe the Griz o-line will get much better as the season goes on. Even if the o-line doesn't get good, I think the Griz D will will play those two offenses fairly well. The Griz just need to keep beating the other teams. Then, we'll see how they do against EWU and the Cats. I think UM will beat both of them.


PR, why couldn't you just respond like that to begin with, instead of your not so polite and jackassish (new word here) approach? Odd thing is, I honestly feel we are on the same page in what needs to improve. We only have a different attitude, approach, etc in how to deal with the team we have passion for.

People can appreciate and respect the more subtle approach you took than your other approach. Hell, most people here have no problem with your point of view. What people get upset about is not what you say, but how you do it!!!

Good to see can see without your maroon colored glasses. I have a feeling the majority of GRIZ NATION is a little upset, disappointed, and irritated over the offensive struggles, no matter how they have happened.

Because you think you know enough to diss the coaches, and I don't think you know enough to do that. Occasional posts are fine, but I'm getting tired of your multiple posts acting like you know what you're talking about, because I don't think you know what you're talking about. You know more than many on egriz, but you don't know nearly as much as the Griz coaches do, nor are you at practice everyday. Don't know why a high school coach would be dissing college and UM coaches like you do sometimes.
 
AZGrizFan said:
gotgame75 said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
As coaches, team, and fans.

As for the coaches and team, please pay an offensive guru to come evaluate our offense game film this year, and give our staff some advice of how improve our offense and the right kind of play calls. If we cannot spare the money, watch video of how MSU, EWU, and Sac State utilize the whole field sideline to sideline. No wonder their offenses are light years ahead of ours.

Speaking of watching games. I challenge every fan to watch as much video and other games as you can to see the difference in offensive strategy, and utilizing the middle of the field. You will see why the GRIZ struggle, and see what good offense is like. Seriously, how difficult is it to design game plans to utilize the middle 2/3's of the field more often? Other teams seem to get this concept well. Why can't our staff get it too???? Can someone please hammer these things into their thick skulls???????

Meanwhile, it is good to know we go into a bye week knowing our defense just needs to gradually keep improving. I honestly hope the defense work on implementing more nickel and dime packages. The offenses of EWU, Sac State, and MSU are damn good, and those defensive packages will surely help slow those teams down some.

I know I plan to watch as many Big Sky teams as I can next week. It always sucks when the GRIZ are off, but with all the injuries and inconsistent offense, the bye week is very much needed. Can our staff take advantage of the bye week to improve a bad offense? I sure hope so.

Get a grip. You were once a low level high school coach, and apparently not even that now. Please stop with your nonsense.

Get a grip?! Are you serious? I take it you're satisfied with our offensive performance then? Personally, I'd like to think our coaches would do whatever it takes to get our offense together. Right now, we have no offensive identity and have shown absolutely zero ability to adapt or adjust to tough defenses. Yes, we won today, but if we keep performing like we did today it will undoubtedly lead to losses down the road.

Schmaing
Poole
Thiebes
Nguyen
Nacarratto
Henderson
Ralston
Johnson

That's EIGHT planned starters missing all or most of the game today. How can you possibly judge the effectiveness of our offense when we're essentially down to the 2nd string--now including our quarterback?

Are injuries hampering the ability of our offense to get on track? Undoubtedly, but there's only so long you can place 100% of the blame on them for our offensive woes. Good coaches succeed in spite of injuries. They find a way to adapt and coach up their healthy players. We are nearly halfway through the season and this offensive line has shown very little improvement or ability to adapt in spite of their youth. They consistently fail to pick up blitzes and miss assignments. And beyond the first quarter of the NCU game, this offense has failed to be consistently effective even with JJ. Whenever we have gone up against anything resembling a good defense, we fail to adapt our game plan. For example, the commentators today (who were horrible by the way) spoke of how it was in ND's plan to force our run to game to the outside and use their defensive speed to make plays. With this in mind, do you think it would be smart to consistently try to run outside the tackles? I think not. Yet what did we do? We ran Canada and Van off tackle and to the outside for the better part of two and a half quarters, resulting in a negative total rushing yardage for the better part of the first half. Only later in the game, when we began to run more to the inside and their defense was wearing out did we find even marginal success in the run game. Also, how do you justify calling a late-developing run with Canada when we were backed up into our end zone and our run game to that point had been consistently getting zero to negative yardage? It doesn't take a coaching genius to see that could very well turn out bad! It took a miraculous effort by Canada to save us from a safety. This is just not smart offensive play calling.

And I could get into why this offense isn't set up to even remotely begin to take advantage of JJ's skill set, but that's another argument completely.
 
Grizrule did you really coach high school football? I am impressed. I mean a certified background check passed member of a high school coaching staff? If so I might need to reevaluate my opinion of the Grizzlies coaching staff.
 
gotgame75 said:
AZGrizFan said:
gotgame75 said:
PlayerRep said:
Get a grip. You were once a low level high school coach, and apparently not even that now. Please stop with your nonsense.

Get a grip?! Are you serious? I take it you're satisfied with our offensive performance then? Personally, I'd like to think our coaches would do whatever it takes to get our offense together. Right now, we have no offensive identity and have shown absolutely zero ability to adapt or adjust to tough defenses. Yes, we won today, but if we keep performing like we did today it will undoubtedly lead to losses down the road.

Schmaing
Poole
Thiebes
Nguyen
Nacarratto
Henderson
Ralston
Johnson

That's EIGHT planned starters missing all or most of the game today. How can you possibly judge the effectiveness of our offense when we're essentially down to the 2nd string--now including our quarterback?

Are injuries hampering the ability of our offense to get on track? Undoubtedly, but there's only so long you can place 100% of the blame on them for our offensive woes. Good coaches succeed in spite of injuries. They find a way to adapt and coach up their healthy players. We are nearly halfway through the season and this offensive line has shown very little improvement or ability to adapt in spite of their youth. They consistently fail to pick up blitzes and miss assignments. And beyond the first quarter of the NCU game, this offense has failed to be consistently effective even with JJ. Whenever we have gone up against anything resembling a good defense, we fail to adapt our game plan. For example, the commentators today (who were horrible by the way) spoke of how it was in ND's plan to force our run to game to the outside and use their defensive speed to make plays. With this in mind, do you think it would be smart to consistently try to run outside the tackles? I think not. Yet what did we do? We ran Canada and Van off tackle and to the outside for the better part of two and a half quarters, resulting in a negative total rushing yardage for the better part of the first half. Only later in the game, when we began to run more to the inside and their defense was wearing out did we find even marginal success in the run game. Also, how do you justify calling a late-developing run with Canada when we were backed up into our end zone and our run game to that point had been consistently getting zero to negative yardage? It doesn't take a coaching genius to see that could very well turn out bad! It took a miraculous effort by Canada to save us from a safety. This is just not smart offensive play calling.

And I could get into why this offense isn't set up to even remotely begin to take advantage of JJ's skill set, but that's another argument completely.

Great post :thumb:
 
AZGrizFan said:
gotgame75 said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
As coaches, team, and fans.

As for the coaches and team, please pay an offensive guru to come evaluate our offense game film this year, and give our staff some advice of how improve our offense and the right kind of play calls. If we cannot spare the money, watch video of how MSU, EWU, and Sac State utilize the whole field sideline to sideline. No wonder their offenses are light years ahead of ours.

Speaking of watching games. I challenge every fan to watch as much video and other games as you can to see the difference in offensive strategy, and utilizing the middle of the field. You will see why the GRIZ struggle, and see what good offense is like. Seriously, how difficult is it to design game plans to utilize the middle 2/3's of the field more often? Other teams seem to get this concept well. Why can't our staff get it too???? Can someone please hammer these things into their thick skulls???????

Meanwhile, it is good to know we go into a bye week knowing our defense just needs to gradually keep improving. I honestly hope the defense work on implementing more nickel and dime packages. The offenses of EWU, Sac State, and MSU are damn good, and those defensive packages will surely help slow those teams down some.

I know I plan to watch as many Big Sky teams as I can next week. It always sucks when the GRIZ are off, but with all the injuries and inconsistent offense, the bye week is very much needed. Can our staff take advantage of the bye week to improve a bad offense? I sure hope so.

Get a grip. You were once a low level high school coach, and apparently not even that now. Please stop with your nonsense.

Get a grip?! Are you serious? I take it you're satisfied with our offensive performance then? Personally, I'd like to think our coaches would do whatever it takes to get our offense together. Right now, we have no offensive identity and have shown absolutely zero ability to adapt or adjust to tough defenses. Yes, we won today, but if we keep performing like we did today it will undoubtedly lead to losses down the road.

Schmaing
Poole
Thiebes
Nguyen
Nacarratto
Henderson
Ralston
Johnson

That's EIGHT planned starters missing all or most of the game today. How can you possibly judge the effectiveness of our offense when we're essentially down to the 2nd string--now including our quarterback?

Also, Walcott (he played in front of Chase N as a frosh). Nguyen played today. Also, Harper, the projected TE starter after spring ball, quit. Also, not Shaw at punter. In the second half, UM had 1 receiver, the running backs and fullback, and 3 o-lineman, still on the field. Also, the 2d team tackle was not there.
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
gotgame75 said:
PlayerRep said:
Get a grip. You were once a low level high school coach, and apparently not even that now. Please stop with your nonsense.

Get a grip?! Are you serious? I take it you're satisfied with our offensive performance then? Personally, I'd like to think our coaches would do whatever it takes to get our offense together. Right now, we have no offensive identity and have shown absolutely zero ability to adapt or adjust to tough defenses. Yes, we won today, but if we keep performing like we did today it will undoubtedly lead to losses down the road.

Schmaing
Poole
Thiebes
Nguyen
Nacarratto
Henderson
Ralston
Johnson

That's EIGHT planned starters missing all or most of the game today. How can you possibly judge the effectiveness of our offense when we're essentially down to the 2nd string--now including our quarterback?

Also, Walcott (he played in front of Chase N as a frosh). Nguyen played today. Also, Harper, the projected TE starter after spring ball, quit. Also, not Shaw at punter. In the second half, UM had 1 receiver, the running backs and fullback, and 3 o-lineman, still on the field. Also, the 2d team tackle was not there.

Nguyen played, but didn't have a single carry. Have to think he's not 100% and was just there to catch punts/kickoffs.
 
Grizbeer said:
I just hope our coaches learn proper grammar because I seen them playing and bye God all be damned if they can write a coherent sentence. I pray they get better.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
As coaches, team, and fans.

As for the coaches and team, please pay an offensive guru to come evaluate our offense game film this year, and give our staff some advice of how improve our offense and the right kind of play calls. If we cannot spare the money, watch video of how MSU, EWU, and Sac State utilize the whole field sideline to sideline. No wonder their offenses are light years ahead of ours.

Speaking of watching games. I challenge every fan to watch as much video and other games as you can to see the difference in offensive strategy, and utilizing the middle of the field. You will see why the GRIZ struggle, and see what good offense is like. Seriously, how difficult is it to design game plans to utilize the middle 2/3's of the field more often? Other teams seem to get this concept well. Why can't our staff get it too???? Can someone please hammer these things into their thick skulls???????

Meanwhile, it is good to know we go into a bye week knowing our defense just needs to gradually keep improving. I honestly hope the defense work on implementing more nickel and dime packages. The offenses of EWU, Sac State, and MSU are damn good, and those defensive packages will surely help slow those teams down some.

I know I plan to watch as many Big Sky teams as I can next week. It always sucks when the GRIZ are off, but with all the injuries and inconsistent offense, the bye week is very much needed. Can our staff take advantage of the bye week to improve a bad offense? I sure hope so.

Get a grip. You were once a low level high school coach, and apparently not even that now. Please stop with your nonsense.

What in the hell did I do to you? Can you honestly tell us, this offense does not have to seriously evaluate things? I am officially convinced, you not only wear maroon colored glasses, but you own the damn patent to them. :thumb:

Some of us are getting tired of your drivel. Feel free to comment and criticize, but please stop acting like you know what you are talking about. Way too many posts acting like you know what you are talking about.
Pot - kettle
 
PlayerRep said:
gotgame75 said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
As coaches, team, and fans.

As for the coaches and team, please pay an offensive guru to come evaluate our offense game film this year, and give our staff some advice of how improve our offense and the right kind of play calls. If we cannot spare the money, watch video of how MSU, EWU, and Sac State utilize the whole field sideline to sideline. No wonder their offenses are light years ahead of ours.

Speaking of watching games. I challenge every fan to watch as much video and other games as you can to see the difference in offensive strategy, and utilizing the middle of the field. You will see why the GRIZ struggle, and see what good offense is like. Seriously, how difficult is it to design game plans to utilize the middle 2/3's of the field more often? Other teams seem to get this concept well. Why can't our staff get it too???? Can someone please hammer these things into their thick skulls???????

Meanwhile, it is good to know we go into a bye week knowing our defense just needs to gradually keep improving. I honestly hope the defense work on implementing more nickel and dime packages. The offenses of EWU, Sac State, and MSU are damn good, and those defensive packages will surely help slow those teams down some.

I know I plan to watch as many Big Sky teams as I can next week. It always sucks when the GRIZ are off, but with all the injuries and inconsistent offense, the bye week is very much needed. Can our staff take advantage of the bye week to improve a bad offense? I sure hope so.

Get a grip. You were once a low level high school coach, and apparently not even that now. Please stop with your nonsense.

Get a grip?! Are you serious? I take it you're satisfied with our offensive performance then? Personally, I'd like to think our coaches would do whatever it takes to get our offense together. Right now, we have no offensive identity and have shown absolutely zero ability to adapt or adjust to tough defenses. Yes, we won today, but if we keep performing like we did today it will undoubtedly lead to losses down the road.

No, not satisfied at all. The offense is not good, especially the o-line. But I don't like people who don't know what they're talking about, complaining about Delaney, the offense and the team. Today, the Griz had 7 predicted preseason starters on the offense not even on the trip, plus the punter. That doesn't include Harper. The Griz played without their star quarterback for more than half of the game. The defense was absolutely outstanding. Great stops, turnovers and a blocked FG. It was a great team win. Why is it so hard to appreciate a very nice team win?

Each game is a new one. The team and coaches have to figure out how to win each game. They are working hard. They are fighters. I'm proud of the team. Why is it so hard to appreciate and support the team?

The EWU and Cat defenses absolutely suck. Even the Griz O should be able to roll on them. Maybe the Griz o-line will get much better as the season goes on. Even if the o-line doesn't get good, I think the Griz D will will play those two offenses fairly well. The Griz just need to keep beating the other teams. Then, we'll see how they do against EWU and the Cats. I think UM will beat both of them.

Lol. Wanna bet?
 
What we will get out of this week is having to watch that offense. For whatever reasons, the job ain't gettin' done. Six games left and MAYBE the Cal Davis game could be won, as it appears their offense and our offense are about on par. The rest of the games are against teams that actually have a working offense and can put up lots of points. Relying on our defense won't put many points on the board. I have seen no evidence our coaching staff is actually capable of turning this around, therefore JJ staying healthy through the season is questionable. The offensive line is what it is and the running game(all 42 yards of it) is MIA. A 5 - 7 season is on the horizon, maybe 4 - 8. Pour a little sugar on it, if you like.
 
This. When you go against teams that roll on offense it doesn't really matter how good a defense is, they are still going to score a lot of points. Yes you will get some stops and force some punts, but to think that you would hold EWU, MSU, and even ISU to a level that your current offense could out score is quite a stretch. The Griz D is amazingly good. But there is no way in hell that these other teams don't score a shit ton of points, it's what they do.
 
IroneagleXP said:
This. When you go against teams that roll on offense it doesn't really matter how good a defense is, they are still going to score a lot of points. Yes you will get some stops and force some punts, but to think that you would hold EWU, MSU, and even ISU to a level that your current offense could out score is quite a stretch. The Griz D is amazingly good. But there is no way in hell that these other teams don't score a shit ton of points, it's what they do.

And as bad as those 3 defenses are there is no way Montana won't score a "shit ton of points." Good grief what an ignorant post. :roll: We'll get healed up and then get after it.
 
IroneagleXP said:
This. When you go against teams that roll on offense it doesn't really matter how good a defense is, they are still going to score a lot of points. Yes you will get some stops and force some punts, but to think that you would hold EWU, MSU, and even ISU to a level that your current offense could out score is quite a stretch. The Griz D is amazingly good. But there is no way in hell that these other teams don't score a shit ton of points, it's what they do.

We don't play Idaho State this year.
 
Grizbeer said:
I just hope our coaches learn proper grammar because I seen them playing and bye God all be damned if they can write a coherent sentence. I pray they get better.

I missed the awesome in this. Well done.
 
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
PlayerRep said:
gotgame75 said:
Get a grip?! Are you serious? I take it you're satisfied with our offensive performance then? Personally, I'd like to think our coaches would do whatever it takes to get our offense together. Right now, we have no offensive identity and have shown absolutely zero ability to adapt or adjust to tough defenses. Yes, we won today, but if we keep performing like we did today it will undoubtedly lead to losses down the road.

No, not satisfied at all. The offense is not good, especially the o-line. But I don't like people who don't know what they're talking about, complaining about Delaney, the offense and the team. Today, the Griz had 7 predicted preseason starters on the offense not even on the trip, plus the punter. That doesn't include Harper. The Griz played without their star quarterback for more than half of the game. The defense was absolutely outstanding. Great stops, turnovers and a blocked FG. It was a great team win. Why is it so hard to appreciate a very nice team win?

Each game is a new one. The team and coaches have to figure out how to win each game. They are working hard. They are fighters. I'm proud of the team. Why is it so hard to appreciate and support the team?

The EWU and Cat defenses absolutely suck. Even the Griz O should be able to roll on them. Maybe the Griz o-line will get much better as the season goes on. Even if the o-line doesn't get good, I think the Griz D will will play those two offenses fairly well. The Griz just need to keep beating the other teams. Then, we'll see how they do against EWU and the Cats. I think UM will beat both of them.


PR, why couldn't you just respond like that to begin with, instead of your not so polite and jackassish (new word here) approach? Odd thing is, I honestly feel we are on the same page in what needs to improve. We only have a different attitude, approach, etc in how to deal with the team we have passion for.

People can appreciate and respect the more subtle approach you took than your other approach. Hell, most people here have no problem with your point of view. What people get upset about is not what you say, but how you do it!!!

Good to see can see without your maroon colored glasses. I have a feeling the majority of GRIZ NATION is a little upset, disappointed, and irritated over the offensive struggles, no matter how they have happened.

Because you think you know enough to diss the coaches, and I don't think you know enough to do that. Occasional posts are fine, but I'm getting tired of your multiple posts acting like you know what you're talking about, because I don't think you know what you're talking about. You know more than many on egriz, but you don't know nearly as much as the Griz coaches do, nor are you at practice everyday. Don't know why a high school coach would be dissing college and UM coaches like you do sometimes.
It's obvious you like to argue just for the sake of arguing. Not a good trait.
 
nzone said:
IroneagleXP said:
This. When you go against teams that roll on offense it doesn't really matter how good a defense is, they are still going to score a lot of points. Yes you will get some stops and force some punts, but to think that you would hold EWU, MSU, and even ISU to a level that your current offense could out score is quite a stretch. The Griz D is amazingly good. But there is no way in hell that these other teams don't score a shit ton of points, it's what they do.

And as bad as those 3 defenses are there is no way Montana won't score a "shit ton of points." Good grief what an ignorant post. :roll: We'll get healed up and then get after it.
It's not about how bad the defense is, its about how unproductive your offense is. All I'm saying is that after seeing all the griz games, all the EWU games, and most of the Cat games the advantage is most definitely to the other teams. And this isn't a troll post. If the griz can play offense like they should be then they would be making a deep playoff run IMO. BUT as it sits after 6 games....good luck with EWU and MSU.
 
IroneagleXP said:
nzone said:
IroneagleXP said:
This. When you go against teams that roll on offense it doesn't really matter how good a defense is, they are still going to score a lot of points. Yes you will get some stops and force some punts, but to think that you would hold EWU, MSU, and even ISU to a level that your current offense could out score is quite a stretch. The Griz D is amazingly good. But there is no way in hell that these other teams don't score a shit ton of points, it's what they do.

And as bad as those 3 defenses are there is no way Montana won't score a "shit ton of points." Good grief what an ignorant post. :roll: We'll get healed up and then get after it.
It's not about how bad the defense is, its about how unproductive your offense is. All I'm saying is that after seeing all the griz games, all the EWU games, and most of the Cat games the advantage is most definitely to the other teams. And this isn't a troll post. If the griz can play offense like they should be then they would be making a deep playoff run IMO. BUT as it sits after 6 games....good luck with EWU and MSU.
Of course....I could be full of shit, but that's why it's an opinion. Just thought I would insert that before playarape gets his panties in a bunch.
 
It is a bye week, not a by week. Only thing you need is for nobody to get arrested. Hopefully Delany makes it clear, not parties, no selling drugs, and no cow tipping ( not talking about the girls on your campus).
 
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