Last Quarter Century BigSky Conf. Success Comparison

[pussycatkillerz]

Success? I looked again at the Griz postseason record book. Of the 51 playoff games the Griz have played since 1982, a grand total of 3 were won on the road or at a neutral site. That's 3 wins in 15 games. The Griz have 35 home playoff games and 2 national championships. Congratulations on your amazing dominance.

Wow bitter much?
Home field advantage tends to happen when you win 266 games in 25 seasons....
It's called being "amazingly dominant" as you phrased it.

 

[NLGrizFan]

Success? I looked again at the Griz postseason record book. Of the 51 playoff games the Griz have played since 1982, a grand total of 3 were won on the road or at a neutral site. That's 3 wins in 15 games. The Griz have 35 home playoff games and 2 national championships. Congratulations on your amazing dominance.

Wow bitter much?
Home field advantage tends to happen when you win 266 games in 25 seasons....
It's called being "amazingly dominant" as you phrased it.

You beat me to it...

 

[Cats2506]

I love it.........


A bunch of fizz fans having a group circle jerk and telling themselves how much tail they used to get :thumb:

 

[pussycatkillerz]

just out of curiosity, why the last 25 years? no doubt the griz were just plain dominant over that stretch. only an idiot or a dude trying to stir the pot would say otherwise. but seeing as this thread almost immediately went to a comparison of the cats and griz....what do the numbers look like since we were both playing 1-aa ball or whatever it was called when we were both finally playing the same level?

does that stack up better for the cats or is it about the same as the last 25 years?

AGS power rankings since the start of the FCS.

Last 20 years...

 

[NLGrizFan]

That's a pretty kick ass graph!!

 

[grizrgood]

Pretty sweet chart...love em or hate em, you have to be impressed by the Griz success and dominance the past 25 years.

Hopefully EWU can continue to make steady gains towards the type of success the Griz have had...

Pay attention kitty fans, this how to make your point and not look like a little bitch! :thumb:

 

[pussycatkillerz]

Pretty sweet chart...love em or hate em, you have to be impressed by the Griz success and dominance the past 25 years.

Hopefully EWU can continue to make steady gains towards the type of success the Griz have had...

Pay attention kitty fans, this how to make your point and not look like a little bitch! :thumb:

+1

 

[grizcountry420]

I think we can all agree that we're all ready to see some action on the field. These threads have been have been off the hook. Just wanna give the mods a thumbs up for letting us act like this... Competition is good for everyone. The Big Sky conference is gonna be a dog fight this year. I'm looking forward to it.





:thumb:

 

[Herd]

These stats certainly scream Griz dominance in the Big Sky, but do they scream Griz Greatness? Certainly 7 NC appearance is very good, but 2-5 in those games is more mediocre than great. Two NC's good, but not great in 7 attempts. But you also have to look at the teams that Montana played in those games . . . many have moved on to FBS, some very good competition. How often have the Griz had a clean BSC record and a #1 seed for a relatively easy bracket until the semis? Many times due to a relatively weak BSC, and very good Griz teams with few losses.

Do the stats in the past quarter century speak to the Griz greatness vs. the FCS, or relative weakness by the rest of the Big Sky vs. the FCS? I have to say that Montana has faced a relatively weak Big Sky during this stretch, but 19 consecutive does speak for itself. Dominating BSC football? Yes Domination of Resources vs. the rest of the BSC? Yes, for sure.

I do believe that the rest of the Big Sky has climbed up to more closely join the Griz in the last 5 years, and the rest of the Big Sky has climbed up to compete more strongly on a national level too. I also feel that the strength of FCS football has clearly shifted from the east to the west, and this shift will be further solidified with some of the FCS exits in the SoCon and CAA. The Big Sky, with multiple teams, will share in the west's dominance in the foreseeable future.

For an outsider, it's actually refreshing to see a Big Sky where 5 teams are all capabile of winning the conference title . . . vs. being assured the Griz would win it, and tryng to figure out what other team would finish 2nd. Maybe Griz dominance will return in the BSC, but I'm impressed with the FB being played at Mt St, EWU and CP.

 

[bigsky33]

The posts in this thread are all about the past. As I said before , the Griz have an awesome record. Let's go forward now. The Griz should have an awesome year with the talent they have. Will the coaching staff get them there? That is the question. There is a lot of angst with Griz fans on that question. Also, the Griz lose a ton of really talented players at the end of this season. There is a major drop off next year and the loss of four schollies for the next four years will really hurt their depth. That along with growing parity in the conference makes the Griz future just another team battling for the title.

 

[GrizMusician]

These stats certainly scream Griz dominance in the Big Sky, but do they scream Griz Greatness? Certainly 7 NC appearance is very good, but 2-5 in those games is more mediocre than great. Two NC's good, but not great in 7 attempts. But you also have to look at the teams that Montana played in those games . . . many have moved on to FBS, some very good competition. How often have the Griz had a clean BSC record and a #1 seed for a relatively easy bracket until the semis? Many times due to a relatively weak BSC, and very good Griz teams with few losses.

Do the stats in the past quarter century speak to the Griz greatness vs. the FCS, or relative weakness by the rest of the Big Sky vs. the FCS? I have to say that Montana has faced a relatively weak Big Sky during this stretch, but 19 consecutive does speak for itself. Dominating BSC football? Yes Domination of Resources vs. the rest of the BSC? Yes, for sure.

I do believe that the rest of the Big Sky has climbed up to more closely join the Griz in the last 5 years, and the rest of the Big Sky has climbed up to compete more strongly on a national level too. I also feel that the strength of FCS football has clearly shifted from the east to the west, and this shift will be further solidified with some of the FCS exits in the SoCon and CAA. The Big Sky, with multiple teams, will share in the west's dominance in the foreseeable future.

For an outsider, it's actually refreshing to see a Big Sky where 5 teams are all capabile of winning the conference title . . . vs. being assured the Griz would win it, and tryng to figure out what other team would finish 2nd. Maybe Griz dominance will return in the BSC, but I'm impressed with the FB being played at Mt St, EWU and CP.

Great post. :clap:

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[nzone]

Just like the cats lost a lot of talented players last season? Listen 33 the coaching staff is going to be fine,mark it down, and after this season recruiting won't be a problem. If in fact you are a player of the past you sure spend a lot of time on egriz. There is no angst among Griz fans. In fact most are very excited about 2013. No different than in bozo. We think The Griz are going to contend for the BSC Championship just like the bobcat fans think they are. So why don't you discuss your opinions over on bcn where you won't have to get into a pissing contest with Griz fans(other than with Alpha) who has the ability to get in, knock you out, and graciously leave. unch:

 

[bigsky33]

Nzone- the Cats are not losing four schollies for the next four years and they already have excellent depth. I agree and as I said you have a very talented team this year. Should do really well. I think a lot of your fans have angst over the coaching as evidenced by the comments from last year that have continued to this year. MD is a class act and has stabilized the Griz program but he needs to show he can coach this team to it's potential which is high. I am not in a pissing contest nor has Alpha knocked me out. You are losing a lot of very talented people after this year. Your recruiting will suffer because of losing four schollies. That is a fact. It will have a negative effect on your depth. It is a fact that the parity in the conference gets stronger every year.

 

[nzone]

Comments on this board don't translate to a consensus statewide. We have plenty of support.My problem with a lot of your comments are I don't believe the consequences are going to be severe as YOU HOPE and the fact that cat success hinges on Griz failure. We have confidence in our program just like you in yours yet you feel it necessary to extrapolate your unfounded opinions as truth regarding Grizzly Football. Quite frankly most of what you say(other than the Griz are talented in 2013) is pure speculation and has zero credit ability.
Whether or not people think we have a dirty problem won't change the results of THIS YEARS season when we very well might win the conference. I think we're that good! Why worry about tomorrow when today has enough worries of its own. Next season is a long ways off and a lot has yet to be settled.

 

[bigsky33]

Nzone, next season is just around the corner. Glad you have confidence in your program which you should. I only give an opinion based on experience. When you lose four schollies a year for four years, that really hurts. Especially since they break schollies into partials. It crushes your depth. Any program has to worry about tomorrow, thats a faact of life. I am sure your coaches are really worried about tomorrow, it does mean their jobs. I haven't mentioned severe consequences. I just look at things objectively. Like I said, the Griz have a really talented team this year. I hope the coaches can bring it to its potential. You can't deny that your fans are skeptical of the coaching . Yes, it's only opinions.

 

[EastCoastGriz]

You guys used to be damn good.

Now, any interest in coming up with a more current spreadsheet showing say... The past three years? That would be much more relevant if you're trying the guess how you might do over the next few years. Or if you're just trying to relive the good old days and remember how good you used to be, then these numbers work fine for that.

Lets see. A 7-4 campaign, and the semi-finals. In the history of Bobcat football those would rank as B and A+ seasons...

The Griz won't have another run like we did. No-one in FCS will; there's just too much parity anymore. But it's pretty crazy to think we won't be an elite program. There's just too much of an inherit advantage with facilities, support, money, etc. over the Valpairasos, Northern Colorados and Southeast Louisianas of the world

MSU is catching up with the inherent advantage thing. Having said that - they still don't know how to win when it counts and their fans are just dense. Rude awakening for them this year and deep down I think they know it. Griz sucked it up last year period. I do believe it was anomaly. Kind of the like the cants 3 years of success. One convenient thing they overlook. What was going on the last three years with the Griz coaches? Pflu's second year we pummeled them. The other two we had brand new coaches. Sad if they couldn't beat us convincingly, which they did not do any year. I hated BH, but what would have happened if be would have stayed? Very bad for the kittens. Very bad - just like the train headed their way this year.

MSU has caught up and is now surpassing. I have heard the new weight room expansion going on right now is going to be awesome. Turf/Expansion/Lights/Concessions/New tailgate lots and landscaping/Weight Room ... the MSU brand is going STRONG right now. :thumb:

YEA It's 2013 and we are getting some of our parking lots paved. Frikin Awesome!

 

[Hammer]

Nzone, next season is just around the corner. Glad you have confidence in your program which you should. I only give an opinion based on experience. When you lose four schollies a year for four years, that really hurts. Especially since they break schollies into partials. It crushes your depth. Any program has to worry about tomorrow, thats a faact of life. I am sure your coaches are really worried about tomorrow, it does mean their jobs. I haven't mentioned severe consequences. I just look at things objectively. Like I said, the Griz have a really talented team this year. I hope the coaches can bring it to its potential. You can't deny that your fans are skeptical of the coaching . Yes, it's only opinions.

So you think the Griz roster lacks depth and I think the kitty OL and defense sucks and they will have at least 4 conf losses. Both just opinions and yours is no more valid than mine. Time will tell.

 

[EverettGriz]

Success? I looked again at the Griz postseason record book. Of the 51 playoff games the Griz have played since 1982, a grand total of 3 were won on the road or at a neutral site. That's 3 wins in 15 games. The Griz have 35 home playoff games and 2 national championships. Congratulations on your amazing dominance.

I suppose ewoooooo might actually get a home playoff game if the "stadium" held more than the average junior high field.

Oh wait. They did have a home playoff game. And even then they were begging Montana fans to come over for the game so that it wouldn't be empty. :lol:

Face it. You've been pretty good. But Montana is on an ENTIRELY 'nuther level. The smart people here get that.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

That is a very interesting chart. Thanks for posting! Griz fans have been ridiculously spoiled the past few years... Doesn't really matter how successful we are, fans always seem find something to complain about.

Cat fans, please remember that this is a Grizzly fan message board. No need to get upset about appreciating the success of our own team on our own board...

 

[GoosetownGriz]

The posts in this thread are all about the past. As I said before , the Griz have an awesome record. Let's go forward now. The Griz should have an awesome year with the talent they have. Will the coaching staff get them there? That is the question. There is a lot of angst with Griz fans on that question. Also, the Griz lose a ton of really talented players at the end of this season. There is a major drop off next year and the loss of four schollies for the next four years will really hurt their depth. That along with growing parity in the conference makes the Griz future just another team battling for the title.

Whatever makes you sleep better. You must be a Chicago Cub fan too. "Wait till next year!!!" The same self assuring statement has been uttered in Bozeman every year since 84 and you know what I am still waiting!


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