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Last Quarter Century BigSky Conf. Success Comparison

pussycatkillerz said:
ilovethecats said:
funny thread. you can go all the way back to the beginning of the rivalry and pick and choose times where both schools were rolling. hell right out of the gate the cats won 7 of the first 10. i'm sure there was a ton of shit talking going on in 1903. :roll:

from 1909 to 1927 the griz rolled 16 straight over the cats. sadly....not the longest such streak. :cry: I'm sure griz fans were really letting us hear it in 1927. :roll:

didn't get much better for the cats over the next decade and a half with the griz taking another 12 of the 15 played. :cry: again....i'm sure the trash being spewed was major :o

the rivalry was halted for a while due to war but when it resumed sadly it was still bad for my beloved cats. we won a single game out of the next 10 played. griz ruled all. cats couldn't beat them. griz talked a ton of trash. all cat fans despised the griz...

the next 30 years is where things started getting fun. after 50 plus years of getting beat up the tides changed. the cats just owned the griz. from the mid 50's to the mid 80's the cats won 22 of 30 games. cat fans talked an abundance of shit, acted like we invented football, pretended we were better than everyone else, and griz fans hated us and our arrogant ways.

then the tide changed again. there was a new streak. one that lasted 17 games and really fueled the fire of an already very hot rivalry. not only did the griz have the cats number but they made a name for themselves across the country. fans came out of the woodwork. kids who were born in the 80's knew nothing different. they had no idea the cats had owned the rivalry for the last 30 years before their birth. as far as they were concerned the griz invented football. they were arrogant and cocky and had very short memories. they felt that for some reason the success on a football field by a team they supported for some reason made them smarter and better fans. cat fans hated the griz for this undying arrogance and the rivalry grew more bitter than ever before.

fast forward. finally the streak is broken. the cats finally beat the griz for the first time since the mid 80's. since that wonderful day the series has been more even than it has been since....well....ever. there has never been a 10+ year stretch where things were so even. 6 wins to 5 in favor of the cats over the last 11. go search the records. we have never witnessed this before. some can continue childish pissing matches. other will continue living in the past. I for one will sit back and witness one of the best, most even stretches this great rivalry has ever seen.


:msugrad:


My thread has nothing to do with the cat-Griz rivalry.
Yeah its always a tough game no matter how good a team we field.

It is about the Griz and their quarter century run of dominance over the BigSky and FCS.
Show me an era were the cats possessed a comparable record of national dominance...
http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=30784" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

this isn't as good, but its comparable. the cats don't have the postseason trips, but there weren't as many postseason spots back then and the conference was much better with boise, nevada and idaho in it. they were clearly the best big sky team of that era and one of the better teams in the nation.
 
getgrizzy said:
pussycatkillerz said:
ilovethecats said:
funny thread. you can go all the way back to the beginning of the rivalry and pick and choose times where both schools were rolling. hell right out of the gate the cats won 7 of the first 10. i'm sure there was a ton of shit talking going on in 1903. :roll:

from 1909 to 1927 the griz rolled 16 straight over the cats. sadly....not the longest such streak. :cry: I'm sure griz fans were really letting us hear it in 1927. :roll:

didn't get much better for the cats over the next decade and a half with the griz taking another 12 of the 15 played. :cry: again....i'm sure the trash being spewed was major :o

the rivalry was halted for a while due to war but when it resumed sadly it was still bad for my beloved cats. we won a single game out of the next 10 played. griz ruled all. cats couldn't beat them. griz talked a ton of trash. all cat fans despised the griz...

the next 30 years is where things started getting fun. after 50 plus years of getting beat up the tides changed. the cats just owned the griz. from the mid 50's to the mid 80's the cats won 22 of 30 games. cat fans talked an abundance of shit, acted like we invented football, pretended we were better than everyone else, and griz fans hated us and our arrogant ways.

then the tide changed again. there was a new streak. one that lasted 17 games and really fueled the fire of an already very hot rivalry. not only did the griz have the cats number but they made a name for themselves across the country. fans came out of the woodwork. kids who were born in the 80's knew nothing different. they had no idea the cats had owned the rivalry for the last 30 years before their birth. as far as they were concerned the griz invented football. they were arrogant and cocky and had very short memories. they felt that for some reason the success on a football field by a team they supported for some reason made them smarter and better fans. cat fans hated the griz for this undying arrogance and the rivalry grew more bitter than ever before.

fast forward. finally the streak is broken. the cats finally beat the griz for the first time since the mid 80's. since that wonderful day the series has been more even than it has been since....well....ever. there has never been a 10+ year stretch where things were so even. 6 wins to 5 in favor of the cats over the last 11. go search the records. we have never witnessed this before. some can continue childish pissing matches. other will continue living in the past. I for one will sit back and witness one of the best, most even stretches this great rivalry has ever seen.


:msugrad:


My thread has nothing to do with the cat-Griz rivalry.
Yeah its always a tough game no matter how good a team we field.

It is about the Griz and their quarter century run of dominance over the BigSky and FCS.
Show me an era were the cats possessed a comparable record of national dominance...
http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=30784" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

this isn't as good, but its comparable. the cats don't have the postseason trips, but there weren't as many postseason spots back then and the conference was much better with boise, nevada and idaho in it. they were clearly the best big sky team of that era and one of the better teams in the nation.

Oh boy I'm out
 
pussycatkillerz said:
It is about the Griz and their quarter century run of dominance over the BigSky and FCS.
Show me an era were the cats possessed a comparable record of national dominance...

oh I get that. and you likely won't come across many that don't agree with you. I said the very same in my post. the griz had an awesome 2 and a half decades. if there are people making you guys upset because they are saying otherwise then that's on them. they're stupid.

and to compare their era to one of the cats is just stupid because it's apples and oranges. it's the same reason you guys go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth on this every couple months. comparing what the cats did from '56 to '84 and what the griz did from '86 to a couple years ago is pointless. even if we ignore the fact that the game itself was so much different nearly 60 years ago than it is today, but there are many other factors as well.

bottom line is guys older than myself remember a time where the cats were in a couple national championships and we "relevant" if you can call it that. the successes the cats had then were probably very similar to those felt by griz fans over the last 20 years. but as I said this is a pissing match I've never cared to get in because it's meaningless.

but yes...the griz were very successful over the last 25 years. I thought that went without saying but apparently not. griz were good. griz were very good.

I look forward to what the next 10 years and beyond have in store for this rivalry.
 
getgrizzy said:
http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=30784" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

this isn't as good, but its comparable. the cats don't have the postseason trips, but there weren't as many postseason spots back then and the conference was much better with boise, nevada and idaho in it. they were clearly the best big sky team of that era and one of the better teams in the nation.


Cats 1963-1986 (23 years)
Griz 1989-2012 (23 years)

Winning pct.
Cats .510 (129 games won) example: averaging 5-5 for 23 years
Griz .780 (249 games won) example: 11-3 or 8-2 for 23 years

Playoff births
Cats: 4
Griz: 19

Playoff wins
Cats:7
Griz:32

Division 1 National Championships
Cats:1 (*and one d-II championship)
Griz:2

D1 National championship appearances
Cats:1 (2 if you count dII)
Griz:7

Is that as good as Eastern Washington's last 23?.....comon cat fans
Apples to Oranges...
 
Ilovethecats:
How do you hang out on your rivals board and avoid pissing matches?
That must take some serious anger control.
 
pussycatkillerz said:
Ilovethecats:
How do you hang out on your rivals board and avoid pissing matches?
That must take some serious anger control.

cause I have perspective. it's fcs football in Montana. i'm not on the team. i'm a fan. when the cats are good it's fun. when they're bad it sucks. some fans are idiots. others are pretty cool people. I just have bigger things in life to worry about like my wife and kids and work to get too worked up about a sport.

I learned a long time ago that simply being a fan of a team doesn't make me smarter, stronger, or better than anyone else. that's usually the mistake many make and they come across like idiots...

it's not always easy though i'll admit that. :o
 
ilovethecats said:
pussycatkillerz said:
Ilovethecats:
How do you hang out on your rivals board and avoid pissing matches?
That must take some serious anger control.

cause I have perspective. it's fcs football in Montana. i'm not on the team. i'm a fan. when the cats are good it's fun. when they're bad it sucks. some fans are idiots. others are pretty cool people. I just have bigger things in life to worry about like my wife and kids and work to get too worked up about a sport.

I learned a long time ago that simply being a fan of a team doesn't make me smarter, stronger, or better than anyone else. that's usually the mistake many make and they come across like idiots...

it's not always easy though i'll admit that. :o
this should be required reading for all posters on this site. :clap:
 
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