Lady Griz vs. MSU

[BelierPeaux]

The last three season must be driving Robin crazy. The LG record is 15-14; 18-15;16-14.
Not what he, the UM and the community is used to experiencing.

Is women's basketball passing him by? Or is it just a prolonged hiccup? Honest question.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

The last three season must be driving Robin crazy. The LG record is 15-14; 18-15;16-14.
Not what he, the UM and the community is used to experiencing.

Is women's basketball passing him by? Or is it just a prolonged hiccup? Honest question.

I think it is passing him to some extent. Womens bball seems to be getting more athletic and less based on smart run your playbook plays to get people open. That being said, if all he needs to do is just have a decent enough team to occasionaly make the big dance, then that's all he needs to do it seems for people to be satisfied with the lady griz.

 

[BelierPeaux]

The last three season must be driving Robin crazy. The LG record is 15-14; 18-15;16-14.
Not what he, the UM and the community is used to experiencing.

Is women's basketball passing him by? Or is it just a prolonged hiccup? Honest question.

I think it is passing him to some extent. Womens bball seems to be getting more athletic and less based on smart run your playbook plays to get people open. That being said, if all he needs to do is just have a decent enough team to occasionaly make the big dance, then that's all he needs to do it seems for people to be satisfied with the lady griz.

Yeah, I was wondering about complacency. If all you have to do is compete for and win a few BSC titles, then maybe that's all we can expect anymore.

 

[TrueGriz]

Yes, Lady Griz are getting passed by. getting more physical. The teams that have given Lady Griz the greatest problems this year are the ones that have played a more physical type of basketball. And two of those teams are playing in the championship game.
Also, Lady Griz only have one player they can count on, Katie Baker. The Other players are just mid-30s percent shooters. That is not going to do it. Every team of Selvig's era except that the last 2 (including this year) shot better than 40% from the field. Certainly more players that shot better than 40% than just one player.
This is going to be the same team, and frankly, I do not see things are going to be any different. Smith and Deboer have shot mid-30s all three years, and do not see that changing next year. I can see possible improvement from Tory Hill, but that may be just hoping.

Maggie Rickman is a player that has shot over 40% for much of the season but ended the season shooting poorly. I can see her being a decent shooter next year.


Mayb Staudacher will be a good shooter. Her brother shot pretty well for the Griz. could be some hope there. But she will be just a freshman next year.

I can see another 4th or 5th place finish next year.

 

[84GRIZ]

The last three season must be driving Robin crazy. The LG record is 15-14; 18-15;16-14.
Not what he, the UM and the community is used to experiencing.

Is women's basketball passing him by? Or is it just a prolonged hiccup? Honest question.

The Lady Griz need to do something to improve their shooting. I do not know what has happened over the last few years but it has been getting worse and worse since Morales graduated. In 2008-2009 the LG overal shooting percentage was 42.7%, 2009-10 it dropped to 39.3%, 2010-11 it dropped to 37.8% and then this year it was 36.8% and that includes Katie Baker who was shooting at 44.9%. If you take Baker out of this year's stats the rest of the team shot at 34.67%.

I now part of it is moving the 3 point line back but come on, that only happened this year. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe they need to hire a shooting coach but they need to do something.

 

[GrizLA]

The last three season must be driving Robin crazy. The LG record is 15-14; 18-15;16-14.
Not what he, the UM and the community is used to experiencing.

Is women's basketball passing him by? Or is it just a prolonged hiccup? Honest question.

When I asked that, nearly three years ago, there were many posts in response, nearly all of them in denial of the the obvious. Things have gotten much worse. I know recruiting budgets are low, and opportunities come from out side of Missoula for many, but Montana has a solid high school program for lady bball and it still seems out of the grasp of the present staff...Every team has down times, but not all last years with no upside in sight. Something has to change..is it a money issue? I doubt it. Is it the coach? Maybe...he doesn't shoot the ball, but teaches when and how, and where...I do know UM is a very slow and predictable team, year in, year out...and most outstanding, bball players would prefer something else, so they go to places that offer what they want to play.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I imagine winning the conference tournament helped deflect a little heat.

 

[TrueGriz]

The last three season must be driving Robin crazy. The LG record is 15-14; 18-15;16-14.
Not what he, the UM and the community is used to experiencing.

Is women's basketball passing him by? Or is it just a prolonged hiccup? Honest question.

When I asked that, nearly three years ago, there were many posts in response, nearly all of them in denial of the the obvious. Things have gotten much worse. I know recruiting budgets are low, and opportunities come from out side of Missoula for many, but Montana has a solid high school program for lady bball and it still seems out of the grasp of the present staff...Every team has down times, but not all last years with no upside in sight. Something has to change..is it a money issue? I doubt it. Is it the coach? Maybe...he doesn't shoot the ball, but teaches when and how, and where...I do know UM is a very slow and predictable team, year in, year out...and most outstanding, bball players would prefer something else, so they go to places that offer what they want to play.

It is not coaching. At least when it comes to shooting. If it was, the Lady Griz would have been bad shooters throughout the past 30 years. The past 2 seasons were the only ones as a team shoot below 40%. So, I really cannot blame coaching. Unless they all of a sudden became bad coaches during the past 3 years.

but, it is coaching when it comes to the type of offense they use and recruiting the right type of players for that offense. Lady Griz have seemed to always have a big girl around 6'3" at center, and a good point guard. but, since Holly tyler and Brooklyn Lorenzen left, they have been under-sized and using combo guards that can play point guard as well as 2 guard or small forward. they certainly did okay while Mandy was here, but I still consider her as a combo guard. I think she would have been better playing at the 3 position.

that 2008-9 team was as good as any past Lady Griz team. Did happen to get a very bad matchup with Pittsburgh though. Sure wish they had a matchup with a team like last years against UCLA. A Lady Griz team that wasn't nearly as good as the 2008-9 team gave UCLA all they could. The 2008-9 team would have beaten UCLA last year.

 

[MissoulaCanucksFan]

Maybe Staudacher will be a good shooter. Her brother shot pretty well for the Griz. Could be some hope there.

Rachel is actually Ryan's cousin.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

Lady Griz have seemed to always have a big girl around 6'3" at center, and a good point guard...they certainly did okay while Mandy was here, but I still consider her as a combo guard. I think she would have been better playing at the 2 position.

Being that the LG have already signed a Molly Klinker out of Fairfield, and that after her sophomore season, which was the earliest that I've ever heard of a LG signing (verbal at the time), I wonder if Selvig would consider doing the same with a Jill Barta, a 6'3" sophomore post from the same hs. Had a double-double (15 pts & 15 rbs) in her latest adventure.



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[Growler1]

The last three season must be driving Robin crazy. The LG record is 15-14; 18-15;16-14.
Not what he, the UM and the community is used to experiencing.

Is women's basketball passing him by? Or is it just a prolonged hiccup? Honest question.

When I asked that, nearly three years ago, there were many posts in response, nearly all of them in denial of the the obvious. Things have gotten much worse. I know recruiting budgets are low, and opportunities come from out side of Missoula for many, but Montana has a solid high school program for lady bball and it still seems out of the grasp of the present staff...Every team has down times, but not all last years with no upside in sight. Something has to change..is it a money issue? I doubt it. Is it the coach? Maybe...he doesn't shoot the ball, but teaches when and how, and where...I do know UM is a very slow and predictable team, year in, year out...and most outstanding, bball players would prefer something else, so they go to places that offer what they want to play.

It is not coaching. At least when it comes to shooting. If it was, the Lady Griz would have been bad shooters throughout the past 30 years. The past 2 seasons were the only ones as a team shoot below 40%. So, I really cannot blame coaching. Unless they all of a sudden became bad coaches during the past 3 years.

but, it is coaching when it comes to the type of offense they use and recruiting the right type of players for that offense. Lady Griz have seemed to always have a big girl around 6'3" at center, and a good point guard. but, since Holly tyler and Brooklyn Lorenzen left, they have been under-sized and using combo guards that can play point guard as well as 2 guard or small forward. they certainly did okay while Mandy was here, but I still consider her as a combo guard. I think she would have been better playing at the 3 position.

that 2008-9 team was as good as any past Lady Griz team. Did happen to get a very bad matchup with Pittsburgh though. Sure wish they had a matchup with a team like last years against UCLA. A Lady Griz team that wasn't nearly as good as the 2008-9 team gave UCLA all they could. The 2008-9 team would have beaten UCLA last year.

Women's BB nationally has caught-up and surpassed Montana. The Lady Griz's years of dominating the conference are a thing of the past. But then, who cares? I'd rather watch ladies volleyball.

 

[Wildman 4]

Is women's basketball passing him by? Or is it just a prolonged hiccup? Honest question.

When I asked that, nearly three years ago, there were many posts in response, nearly all of them in denial of the the obvious. Things have gotten much worse. I know recruiting budgets are low, and opportunities come from out side of Missoula for many, but Montana has a solid high school program for lady bball and it still seems out of the grasp of the present staff...Every team has down times, but not all last years with no upside in sight. Something has to change..is it a money issue? I doubt it. Is it the coach? Maybe...he doesn't shoot the ball, but teaches when and how, and where...I do know UM is a very slow and predictable team, year in, year out...and most outstanding, bball players would prefer something else, so they go to places that offer what they want to play.

It is not coaching. At least when it comes to shooting. If it was, the Lady Griz would have been bad shooters throughout the past 30 years. The past 2 seasons were the only ones as a team shoot below 40%. So, I really cannot blame coaching. Unless they all of a sudden became bad coaches during the past 3 years.

but, it is coaching when it comes to the type of offense they use and recruiting the right type of players for that offense. Lady Griz have seemed to always have a big girl around 6'3" at center, and a good point guard. but, since Holly tyler and Brooklyn Lorenzen left, they have been under-sized and using combo guards that can play point guard as well as 2 guard or small forward. they certainly did okay while Mandy was here, but I still consider her as a combo guard. I think she would have been better playing at the 3 position.

that 2008-9 team was as good as any past Lady Griz team. Did happen to get a very bad matchup with Pittsburgh though. Sure wish they had a matchup with a team like last years against UCLA. A Lady Griz team that wasn't nearly as good as the 2008-9 team gave UCLA all they could. The 2008-9 team would have beaten UCLA last year.

Women's BB nationally has caught-up and surpassed Montana. The Lady Griz's years of dominating the conference are a thing of the past. But then, who cares? I'd rather watch ladies volleyball.

But you played ladies volleyball, right?

 

[bpcats]

Coach Selvig is still an excellent coach and he does a great job of developing the players throughout the season. He really doesn't need to change his approach at all...its worked for 30+ years.

What has happened in women's basketball, especially in the Big Sky, is that there are lot of good
coaches that are recruiting to their style of play and are having success. Overall teams are playing faster, more physical from top to bottom. There is great balance in the conference and really no weak links.

What I saw this year from watching all the teams, is if your team had a bouts of cold shooting they were pretty much guaranteed to lose.

The Lady Griz are loaded with a lot of young talent and should be in the hunt next year...same can be said about the rest of the teams too.

 

[Growler1]

When I asked that, nearly three years ago, there were many posts in response, nearly all of them in denial of the the obvious. Things have gotten much worse. I know recruiting budgets are low, and opportunities come from out side of Missoula for many, but Montana has a solid high school program for lady bball and it still seems out of the grasp of the present staff...Every team has down times, but not all last years with no upside in sight. Something has to change..is it a money issue? I doubt it. Is it the coach? Maybe...he doesn't shoot the ball, but teaches when and how, and where...I do know UM is a very slow and predictable team, year in, year out...and most outstanding, bball players would prefer something else, so they go to places that offer what they want to play.

No. I played with lady volleyball players


It is not coaching. At least when it comes to shooting. If it was, the Lady Griz would have been bad shooters throughout the past 30 years. The past 2 seasons were the only ones as a team shoot below 40%. So, I really cannot blame coaching. Unless they all of a sudden became bad coaches during the past 3 years.

but, it is coaching when it comes to the type of offense they use and recruiting the right type of players for that offense. Lady Griz have seemed to always have a big girl around 6'3" at center, and a good point guard. but, since Holly tyler and Brooklyn Lorenzen left, they have been under-sized and using combo guards that can play point guard as well as 2 guard or small forward. they certainly did okay while Mandy was here, but I still consider her as a combo guard. I think she would have been better playing at the 3 position.

that 2008-9 team was as good as any past Lady Griz team. Did happen to get a very bad matchup with Pittsburgh though. Sure wish they had a matchup with a team like last years against UCLA. A Lady Griz team that wasn't nearly as good as the 2008-9 team gave UCLA all they could. The 2008-9 team would have beaten UCLA last year.

Women's BB nationally has caught-up and surpassed Montana. The Lady Griz's years of dominating the conference are a thing of the past. But then, who cares? I'd rather watch ladies volleyball.

But you played ladies volleyball, right?

 

[TrueGriz]

No. I played with lady volleyball players


It is not coaching. At least when it comes to shooting. If it was, the Lady Griz would have been bad shooters throughout the past 30 years. The past 2 seasons were the only ones as a team shoot below 40%. So, I really cannot blame coaching. Unless they all of a sudden became bad coaches during the past 3 years.

but, it is coaching when it comes to the type of offense they use and recruiting the right type of players for that offense. Lady Griz have seemed to always have a big girl around 6'3" at center, and a good point guard. but, since Holly tyler and Brooklyn Lorenzen left, they have been under-sized and using combo guards that can play point guard as well as 2 guard or small forward. they certainly did okay while Mandy was here, but I still consider her as a combo guard. I think she would have been better playing at the 3 position.

that 2008-9 team was as good as any past Lady Griz team. Did happen to get a very bad matchup with Pittsburgh though. Sure wish they had a matchup with a team like last years against UCLA. A Lady Griz team that wasn't nearly as good as the 2008-9 team gave UCLA all they could. The 2008-9 team would have beaten UCLA last year.

Women's BB nationally has caught-up and surpassed Montana. The Lady Griz's years of dominating the conference are a thing of the past. But then, who cares? I'd rather watch ladies volleyball.

But you played ladies volleyball, right?

Yes.

Fixed that for you. We all knew you were a woman.