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What is the downside of doing a national search?

Then if Nate comes out on top, great, but at least we’d get a taste of what kind of talent is out there

Griz fans are so insular about these coaching searches. It’s ridiculous. I could give a shit less whether or not the person has even been to Montana. I want the candidate with the most potential upside.
 
If this doesn’t get Nate the LG job or offers for another coaching job….. If I’m him I’d be like buddy, what else do I need to do? I gave the LG a live audition for a half season, get the team playing D and playing together, KEPT everyone on the team and so far have KEPT all the commits in the current recruiting cycle.
Agree with you 100%. There's no need to conduct a national search, especially since Harris and Woolley are Montana kids.
 
What is the downside of doing a national search?

Then if Nate comes out on top, great, but at least we’d get a taste of what kind of talent is out there

Griz fans are so insular about these coaching searches. It’s ridiculous. I could give a shit less whether or not the person has even been to Montana. I want the candidate with the most potential upside.
The laet national search our e-light, professional search committee managed to indeed find a hot 🔥 candidate, a flaming-hot a__hole named Brian Holsinger. !!!

Enough said
 
Agree with you 100%. There's no need to conduct a national search, especially since Harris and Woolley are Montana kids.
Coach Harris should be hired today. He should be on the phone today reassuring commits. Tomorrow, he and his staff should be on the road visiting potential recruits. He should be able to ignore inquiries from schools with coaching openings. like PSU.
 
The laet national search our e-light, professional search committee managed to indeed find a hot 🔥 candidate, a flaming-hot a__hole named Brian Holsinger. !!!

Enough said
So because one candidate from a national search didn’t work out, then all searches are bad? That is such stupid, backwards logic.

What is the drawback of casting a wide net exactly? If Nate is the cream, then he will rise to the top.

I think Nate did a great job, but the fact is there are countless examples of interim coaches that ride a wave temporary success, who don’t work out long term. It’s a common theme.

Why shouldn’t we see who else it out there?
 
Agree with you 100%. There's no need to conduct a national search, especially since Harris and Woolley are Montana kids.
Please explain to me the downside of conducting a thorough search that includes Nate…

And who gives a shit whether or not they are “Montana kids”?

As someone else pointed out, is Binford from Montana? Did Jud Heathcote have any prior connection to Montana? No.

This is a total non-factor to me, that is somehow EXTREMELY important to some Griz fans. I want the best coach talent period- regardless of their origin.

And if they also happen to have a connection here, then great.

I think Nate has earned a shot at the job. But to ignore the vast amount of coaching talent out there would be extremely shortsighted imo
 
Count me in both camps. Do a national search, but I think Nate has a really strong resume right now.
Agreed. Nate’s done a great job and is clearly very deserving of being a head coach.

That said, he is not such a sure thing that we should just automatically ignore other possibilities. I just don’t see the harm in seeing what other coaching talent may be available to us.
 
Being from Montana or not being from Montana?
typically people from Montana have better values, being from the big city's you tend to think more about yourself. not my opinion, I see it and live it everyday.
Robin Selvig, Montana born and raised, ask your self, what made him a coach that his players would give every thing that they had in them for? that is what makes a team successful on the court and off
I say it was Montana values, he cared more about his players success than his own, he cared if the players were successful in school, in their life, in their game. the proof of this, his record of course but more importanly, is how his players come back and tell their story's of how much they loved their time as a Montana Lady Griz.
He gave them an experience that they can be very proud of and will never forget.
Nate Harris has shown the basketball world that he has those same values, he inherited a team Mid-season a very difficult task, a team in turmoil with all the BS that was going on, after a very tough per-season, a few injuries, he stepped in, brought the team together, showing them that he truly cared about them, and their success more than his.
He gave them an experience that they can be very proud of and will never forget.
Also
What this current coaching staff has done is an unbelievable, keeping this team together! it’s easy for the players to just give up, there is a lot of very hard work that goes into being a player at this level, the coaching debacle, the bad loss to some really good teams, that can demoralize a team, a player and a coaching staff,
the uncertainty of who going to be the coach next season? as a player are you going to have a position next year? or should you just play out the year and look for a new team? but the coaching staff kept them together.
Harris is the coach that provided the play at SAC last year using Espinmiller as a decoy so that MJ could get the ball and the free throws to win that game, and the play that should have beat the Kittens in MSLA this year (if the Refs were doing their job)
The job that was done by the coaching staff and the Lady Griz in the Tournament was unbelievable, The job that was done by the players and the coachs 3 games in 3 days a one point loss again to the kittens in the CHAMPIONSHIP.
Do your national search for a coach, but I vote 110% for Nate Harris his coaching staff as the Lady Griz next Head coach.
 
Man, I may be convinced.

Remember it was a National Search where Holsinger was selected by Haslam. How did that turn out?
National searches cost money and there is no guarantee. Not saying the Griz shouldn't do it, but I just watched Harris ace his interview "Test" whatever you want to call it at the Big Sky Tournament. That means something to me.
 
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I think no matter who you hire, you're always taking a risk. There's simply no guarantees even with a national search and someone who's been successful somewhere else. Everyone always touts Robin Selvig, and for good reason, but he didn't have much of a resume at all when Montana took a chance on him. (And it took him a couple of years to get things rolling.) Nate Harris might be the next Robin Selvig in waiting, but no one will know unless he gets the opportunity. And a national search might get us an up-and-coming star who comes in for a year or two and then leaves for greener pastures. Personally, my money is on Harris just because he's probably more likely to stick around for a while if he's successful. Give him a short contract and see what he can do for a year or two. I don't see why not.

Lady Griz basketball was just so extremely blessed and lucky to have a coach like RS for all those years who was so successful. I'm not so sure that kind of success and longevity are replicatable in this day and age.
 
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Remember it was a National Search where Holsinger was selected by Haslam. How did that turn out?
National searches cost money and there is no guarantee. Not saying the Griz shouldn't do it, but I just watched Harris ace his interview "Test" whatever you want to call it at the Big Sky Tournament. That means something to me.
I agree with maroonandsilver and brother bear and Mom: last year just as soon as the Shi##y Kitties lost, WAZZU was all over MSU HC Matt Logie to hire him--maybe the Cougs were contacting him even before MSU lost their play-in game, and MSU AD Leon Costello had to scramble and offer Coach Logie a new, reworked contract to keep him in Bozeman. For all we know, other schools like Portland State could be calling Nate right now. And if he leaves, a chunk of our roster might follow him. Coaches Harris, Woolley, List and Anderson should be recruiting now both in the office on the computer and phone and on the road !!! For example, the Class A tournament starts today here in Billings and we have high-school tournaments now all over Montana as well as Washington, Idaho, Oregon, etc.

We should only conduct a national search if we absolutely have to--we're required to by law. This isn't 1975, '95, or 2005--the world now moves a lot faster than it did even 5 years ago with the advent of the transfer portal and it's maturation and very heavy use since the pandemic ended
 
Please explain to me the downside of conducting a thorough search that includes Nate…

And who gives a shit whether or not they are “Montana kids”?

As someone else pointed out, is Binford from Montana? Did Jud Heathcote have any prior connection to Montana? No.

This is a total non-factor to me, that is somehow EXTREMELY important to some Griz fans. I want the best coach talent period- regardless of their origin.

And if they also happen to have a connection here, then great.

I think Nate has earned a shot at the job. But to ignore the vast amount of coaching talent out there would be extremely shortsighted imo
gotgame75: I don't recognize a downside of conducting a national search. I've observed basketball coaching, and interviewed hundreds of coaches since my first interview in 1980 and concluded there are no specific, reliable personality "attributes" of an ideal, winning coach, though I thought Don Read came close (a lot of Griz football fans were perplexed when Read was hired!).

So here's my rationale for hiring Harris, Woolley, List, Anderson and Rebich:
1. -- They were asked to stabilize a program mid-season in the midst of extreme crisis... even to the point where some (maybe all) players were traumatized;
2. -- First, they had to gain the trust of players, which was probably a "counselor's" challenge & which also required getting Mack Konig to rejoin the team (I don't know if she quit, but do know she sat-out a game);
3. -- Next, they had to decide how to keep the existing system functional while gradually implementing changes they felt necessary. I saw the changes, initially on defense, and it's my opinion an emphasis on team defense is the main reason this team started to become competitive again;
4. -- Necessary changes in what had become a very stagnant offense under the previous head coach came slowly, but game-by-game we saw the players start to drive lanes with increasing confidence... tough to learn mid-season, but several players started to get the idea. Suddenly, these kids started realizing they had the right to attack the bucket on O.
5. -- Result? Two wins on Montana's road trip to PSU and an improving SAC squad. They started looking like a team. Wow. But there were still setbacks;
6. -- The team still lacked confidence and this is Reason #1 I believe Nate Harris should be head coach. Read every post-game interview on GoGriz and specifically read how POSITIVE Nate was about rebuilding hope, optimism and, finally confidence among the players. It's all there in black and white. Please take the time to read how Harris's extreme support about this team was based on trust and encouragement.
7. THEN: Reason #2... The GrizWBB game started to do a 180. This team became competitive first by a major turnabout in team defense. Defensive strides were paramount. They are clearly why Montana became competitive again. The best example is Montana's tourney dispatching of Idaho, a team that beat them twice in conf. play. Montana defense shut out Idaho's two guards, which neutralized Idaho's guarad-oriented drive & kick offense. BUT more importantly... something the previous coach was very poor at: in-game adjustments.
8. This, in my mind, reason #3 is the significant most important coaching factor in this team's dramatic improvement... IN-GAME-ADJUSTMENTS. Suddenly, Montana coaches were making adjustments in timeouts, at quarter breaks, and in other late-game strategies. Don't believe me? Last night's loss to the Bobcats shows at least 4 distinct strategic adjustments that turned what could have been a MSU blowout to a tense, fantastic game where the Griz played like they could win. MJ Bruno was most instrumental in the belief that the Griz could compete: she hounded Cat star Esmeralda Morales, who scored 25 of MSU's 58 points. Did MJ thus fail? No. When coaches made the specific challenge to MJ to hound Morales was exactly when Montana mounted its final comeback. The Cats were frazzled. Montana 's Dani Bartsch made the final trey to put the Griz ahead. Morales, during the final 5 minutes, did not touch the ball very often. The Cats were forced to go to other players. The final miss & make, unfortunately, was an errant miss that fell right into the hands of the Cat player who had an easy return for the winner.
9. These reasons are not ALL the reasons why I believe these coaches should be re-hired. There are more. However, these coaches were given the opportunity to turn things around, and to PROVE to Montana administrators and fans that they are qualified to remain as head coaches.
THESE, gotgame75, are the reasons why I believe the current staff of the Griz have proven, without a doubt, that they deserve the right to continue as this team's coaches.
------ Please be assured: I am not trash talking. Any decision to hire a new coach is, in some way, a toss of the dice. More than anything or anyone re: this situation, I believe MJ Bruno when she spoke so emotionally regarding Harris and staff. Her willingness to speak out is huge and... in the long run, is testament (and perhaps the most important reason) why this staff should be re-hired: They have already proven their worth as coaches. Drop the national search. Give these coaches a contract to sign.
 
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I've said this elsewhere and I'll repeat it here:

Depending on who you ask, the way the search was conducted last time was designed to create the outcome they got. There was a sentiment, after Shannon was let go, that they needed to have a comprehensive and vetted list of candidates. As such they spent a year curating that list, and gave Petrino the interim tag. I know that there a few candidates that were identified as preferred targets that because of circumstances did not apply.

The needs then are different than the needs now. I've heard several things about that hiring process that reflected a need to move the Montana LG program forward and modernize it in terms of recruiting and so forth. To that end, Holsinger understood that challenge and had a very clear vision on to raise the bar. They absolutely missed on his temperament and his ability to manage personnel.

Grizzlyjournal is absolutely right on as to why we should hire the interim staff back...

I was leaning towards an in-house hire before the conference tournament. I am absolutely convinced now that we need to do it after the conference tournament. In part because this program has been in the crapper for 10 years now because of a lack of identity and culture. Simply bringing in an LG alum or a power 4 assistant isn't going to create that over night. Program probably will benefit from consistency and not having to flush half the roster and a new coaching staff. At least what saw from MJ yesterday in the presser is that we might have gotten a head start on culture in the dumpster fire that was January for this squad. There was some inkling of on-court identity too. They have some momentum into the off-season and that isn't necessarily something that we have said in a while.
 
Haslam has known that he'll be hiring a Women's Basketball coach since mid-January. I assure you a search has been ongoing for two months. Interest from candidates has been assessed and the pool is likely down to no more than 3 or 4 candidates at this point.

Nate's performance in the tournament is a valid data point in the hiring decision, so are interviews with the players. MJ's statement in the press conference was certainly powerful.

His performance in the tournament does not make him the absolute sure hire. That would be an emotional decision which should be avoided. Haslam knows the program deserves the best coach it can hire. If there is a better option, the program and the university deserve the best opportunity for success.

I personally think the interim staff has shown their ability to motivate and lead, and deserve serious consideration. I also have no idea who else is in the pool and what level of interest they are showing in the opportunity.

My only hope is that the correct decision can be made quickly for recruiting and retention purposes.

I also suspect that if Nate is not selected as the next head coach, his performance in the tournament has probably opened doors to some other opportunities.
 

Haslam confirms that Harris is most definitely a candidate for the job, whatever that means. The article also clearly explains how much Nate and his family want to remain in Western Montana, and how much he loves UM. It's hard not to be biased in his favor.
 
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