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Kudos for Chalich

havgrizfan said:
Thought Chalich played pretty well considering all of the OL miscues. Brady's target date for a return is the Portland State game, if not sooner, and trust me, no matter where the Griz are, he will be given the keys right back. Book it.

As he should! He is head and shoulders better than Chalich (No Pun Intended)
 
UMGriz75 said:
The outcome Saturday of starting conference play with the "second string" quarterback certainly had a better result than when the Wombats tried it during conference play last November. Chad Chalich did a fine job; can only look to improvements as the offense adjusts to his abilities.

Incorrect. Last year we had to start our backup QB against ISU and he took them down 44 to 39.
 
zengriz said:
...the center snap...
...looked like a side hike...
...back in the sand lot days...
...when you can't rush for 3 seconds...

... :wtf: ...


:lol: :clap:

That's the perfect description!
 
grizeyes said:
Fahque said:
Could Stitt have chosen Gus because he's taller and can see more of the field and therefore, theoretically can more easily go through his reads? I'm sure Stitt would like Gus to be more mobile but being mobile might just not be the most important trait to have in this offense.

Agree that mobility might not be critical to this offense, BUT, a mobile QB can help keep the defense from dropping an extra man or two into coverage like they have with Gus. Especially if Gus doesn't have time to go through his progressions. Will be interesting to see what happens in a few weeks if CC continues to improve.

Either way, it's all good for the Griz! :thumb:
Agreed
 
poorgriz said:
UMGriz75 said:
The outcome Saturday of starting conference play with the "second string" quarterback certainly had a better result than when the Wombats tried it during conference play last November. Chad Chalich did a fine job; can only look to improvements as the offense adjusts to his abilities.

Incorrect. Last year we had to start our backup QB against ISU and he took them down 44 to 39.

Correction: things didn't go so well when you had to start your backup QB against a team with a defense.
 
UMGriz75 said:
poorgriz said:
Incorrect. Last year we had to start our backup QB against ISU and he took them down 44 to 39.
Frenchtown High School also beat ISU last year.

ISU was actually pretty damn good last year. Their only losses were to Utah, Utah State, and they lost squeakers to us and EWU.
 
poorgriz said:
UMGriz75 said:
poorgriz said:
Incorrect. Last year we had to start our backup QB against ISU and he took them down 44 to 39.
Frenchtown High School also beat ISU last year.

ISU was actually pretty damn good last year. Their only losses were to Utah, Utah State, and they lost squeakers to us and EWU.

Meh. They beat one decent team: Poly. They had two DII wins (including a five point win over Chradron). Three of their bsc wins were UNC, SSU and PSU. Not exactly murderer's row last year.
 
havgrizfan said:
Thought Chalich played pretty well considering all of the OL miscues. Brady's target date for a return is the Portland State game, if not sooner, and trust me, no matter where the Griz are, he will be given the keys right back. Book it.

Really? What if the Griz are 5-2 at that point and the offense is rolling (which I fully expect is what will happen...)
 
AZGrizFan said:
havgrizfan said:
Thought Chalich played pretty well considering all of the OL miscues. Brady's target date for a return is the Portland State game, if not sooner, and trust me, no matter where the Griz are, he will be given the keys right back. Book it.

Really? What if the Griz are 5-2 at that point and the offense is rolling (which I fully expect is what will happen...)
Then Chalich will be commended on his efforts and his seat on the bench will be nice and warm for him.
Look, I love that we have Chalich and he is doing a damn nice job but he is simply not taking full advantage of this offense the way Brady did vs. NDSU. I'm not seeing the dynamic reads that Brady pulled off in game 1. When a qb can do that, this offense is nearly unstoppable. Chalich's scrambling ability is better than Brady, for sure, but generally that just means he missed the read and now has to improvise. You can blame that on the Oline but I believe the ball must get out much quicker. There is a reason the griz kept throwing the deep sideline routes (seems to be the lowest risk of all the deep patterns). The only time a QB's running ability should give him a leg-up on a better passer is in an offense that requires that, like CowPolyester.
 
garizzalies said:
AZGrizFan said:
havgrizfan said:
Thought Chalich played pretty well considering all of the OL miscues. Brady's target date for a return is the Portland State game, if not sooner, and trust me, no matter where the Griz are, he will be given the keys right back. Book it.

Really? What if the Griz are 5-2 at that point and the offense is rolling (which I fully expect is what will happen...)
Then Chalich will be commended on his efforts and his seat on the bench will be nice and warm for him.
Look, I love that we have Chalich and he is doing a damn nice job but he is simply not taking full advantage of this offense the way Brady did vs. NDSU. I'm not seeing the dynamic reads that Brady pulled off in game 1. When a qb can do that, this offense is nearly unstoppable. Chalich's scrambling ability is better than Brady, for sure, but generally that just means he missed the read and now has to improvise. You can blame that on the Oline but I believe the ball must get out much quicker. There is a reason the griz kept throwing the deep sideline routes (seems to be the lowest risk of all the deep patterns). The only time a QB's running ability should give him a leg-up on a better passer is in an offense that requires that, like CowPolyester.

What you fail to mention is Brady's performance against Cal Poly and Liberty (in limited action) which were not confidence inspiring. It's too soon to say who will start once Brady has recovered.
 
garizzalies said:
AZGrizFan said:
havgrizfan said:
Thought Chalich played pretty well considering all of the OL miscues. Brady's target date for a return is the Portland State game, if not sooner, and trust me, no matter where the Griz are, he will be given the keys right back. Book it.

Really? What if the Griz are 5-2 at that point and the offense is rolling (which I fully expect is what will happen...)
Then Chalich will be commended on his efforts and his seat on the bench will be nice and warm for him.
Look, I love that we have Chalich and he is doing a damn nice job but he is simply not taking full advantage of this offense the way Brady did vs. NDSU. I'm not seeing the dynamic reads that Brady pulled off in game 1. When a qb can do that, this offense is nearly unstoppable. Chalich's scrambling ability is better than Brady, for sure, but generally that just means he missed the read and now has to improvise. You can blame that on the Oline but I believe the ball must get out much quicker. There is a reason the griz kept throwing the deep sideline routes (seems to be the lowest risk of all the deep patterns). The only time a QB's running ability should give him a leg-up on a better passer is in an offense that requires that, like CowPolyester.

After the NDSU game, I watched an offense regress each and every quarater BG was under center. Is Chalich the answer? Who knows....but I'm gonna go out on a sturdy limb and guess that this offense will look LIGHT YEARS better in 3 more games than it did this Saturday...and with Chalich having that much more time to learn it, get the feel for it, and move through his progressions I can't imaging just handing the ball back to a guy who's been on the sidelines for six weeks.
 
So are we only grading BG on his UNDSU performance....I mean, whether or not BG has a better grasp of the offense and it has to be "dumbed down" for Chalich....the Poly game and the first part of the Liberty game were not a pretty offensive performance. BG seems to be getting a pretty big pass by most people....don't get it at all....
 
It doesn't matter what BG's grade on Egriz is. Just like it doesn't matter what Jake Coker's grade on Alabama's fan forum was after they lost to Ole Miss. It matters what Stitt wants, just like it matters what Nick Saban wants. Calling for the backup QB is a time-honored tradition that started way before message boards. It used to come from the stands and coaches couldn't hear you screaming to put the guy in, now it's on the internet, and they still can't hear you and even if they can, they will ignore you, as they should.
 
Sharpen the pitchforks and heat up the tar cuz' I'm thinkin' Chalich could..could I say... have the opportunity to edge ahead of Jordy on the all-time Egriz Dancing with the Quarterbacks competition. Chad seems to be a more instinctive ball handler whereas JJ's running was more often than not in self defense mode.
 
hav, I am not calling for any QB specifically...what I am saying is that BG did not look very good vs CP and his time in the Liberty game...yet everyone wants to keep telling people that his production on the field has far exceeded what Chalich has shown so far....and that is not the case. I just hope that someone steps up and it is demonstrated on the field.
 
Grizindabox, I wasn't referencing you other than you sayind "does Brady get a pass on here". Like I said, it doesn't matter if every fan gives him a pass or every fan thinks he sucks.

And between Chalich and Brady when it comes to production so far? I guess that depends on what your definition of production is. In nine quarters, BG threw for 841 yards and four TD's, completing 59 percent of his passes. In seven quarters, Chalich has thrown for 507 yards, two TD's and is completing 59 percent of his passes. They are essentially both 1-1 in the W-L column. And from an eye test persepctive, I don't think anyone could say in the 2 wins, the Griz offense looked better against NAU than it did against NDSU.
 
But what I did say, is that since NDSU, BG has not been very good and that Chalich looked better against NAU than BG did against Poly and his stint at Liberty. Yet it seems that so many want to convince people that BG has looked better....
 
Well that's not my intent. I don't want to convince anyone that Brady is better. But I will warn people that think Chalich is better that he will not be the starter when BG is given a clean bill of health. It's just not gonna happen. I know some of you won't believe that, so all I can say is, wait and see for yourselves.
 
havgrizfan said:
Grizindabox, I wasn't referencing you other than you sayind "does Brady get a pass on here". Like I said, it doesn't matter if every fan gives him a pass or every fan thinks he sucks.

And between Chalich and Brady when it comes to production so far? I guess that depends on what your definition of production is. In nine quarters, BG threw for 841 yards and four TD's, completing 59 percent of his passes. In seven quarters, Chalich has thrown for 507 yards, two TD's and is completing 59 percent of his passes. They are essentially both 1-1 in the W-L column. And from an eye test persepctive, I don't think anyone could say in the 2 wins, the Griz offense looked better against NAU than it did against NDSU.

That Liberty loss is on BG. Plain and simple.

BG Drive 1: 3 plays, 1 yard
BG Drive 2: 9 plays, 23 yards
BG Drive 3: 9 plays, 33 yards

Total: 21 plays, 57 yards....a whopping 2.7 yards per play.

CC Drive 3: 5 plays, 49 yards (FG)
CC Drive 4: 1 play, 65 yards (TD)
CC Drive 5: 4 plays, 1 yard (FG)
CC Drive 6: 3 plays, -1 yard
CC Drive 7: 11 plays, 81 yards (TD)
CC Drive 8: 3 plays, 54 yards (Fumble on 1 yard line)

Chalich led the team to points in four of his first 5 drives, and would have been 5/6 if not for the untimely fumble by Counts at the 1 yard line. Then, admittedly, the wheels came off in the 4th quarter. But, by the time Chalich saw the ball for the first time this year his team was in a 17 point hole that he ALMOST dug them out of.

Chalich is 1-0. BG is 1-2. Yeah, that one win was a big one, but he was VERY pedestrian in his last 5 quarters. And that's being kind.
 
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